University of Maryland CP - how hard is it really to get in now?

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

I think UVA still attracts a higher caliber of kids, but the difference is very small now. As college tuitions grow ever larger, I suspect it will get even closer as more and more of the smart kids in MD opt to stay in state.

mid-50% SAT scores are very close (almost same but UVa is little higher), mid-50% ACT scores are not close - UMD is much higher.

https://www.admissions.umd.edu/apply/freshman.php - UMD average ACT- 29-33
https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics - UVA average ACt- 27-31

I really don't understand why people post such blatantly false information. Like, what are you getting out of that?

You don't understand the difference between ACT of 29-33 vs. 27-31. A two point difference on ACT is a huge difference.

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Anonymous wrote:I think many people who have not directly participated in the UMD admissions process in the past several years would be very surprised at how competitive it has become. They may have a general sense that the school has improved over the past couple of decades but they don't know the extent.

EVERY public U in the country says this.

And sometimes it's true.

In 1995, UMBCs freshman had the same average SAT scores as UMCP freshman: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1995-02-21/news/1995052117_1_umbc-honors-student-top-students

From the article: "UMBC and UMCP tied in average scores of all entering freshmen, which stood at 1,093. Last year, UMCP beat UMBC by three points, then the smallest margin previously registered since records were kept by the university system.

And for the second year in a row, the top 25 percent of UMBC students scored higher than their peers at College Park, besting them in average scores, 1,200 to 1,180."

Now days, UMCP is about a hundred points higher than UMBC. That's a significant difference.

When I went to UVA in the early 90's, the SAT scores were around 1250, about 150 points higher than UMCP. The difference is now about 30-40 points on a 1600 point scale.

UVa and UMD, IMHO, basically attract same caliber kids in terms of SAT/ACT avg scores.

I think UVA still attracts a higher caliber of kids, but the difference is very small now. As college tuitions grow ever larger, I suspect it will get even closer as more and more of the smart kids in MD opt to stay in state.

mid-50% SAT scores are very close (almost same but UVa is little higher), mid-50% ACT scores are not close - UMD is much higher.

https://www.admissions.umd.edu/apply/freshman.php - UMD average ACT- 29-33
https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics - UVA average ACt- 27-31

I really don't understand why people post such blatantly false information. Like, what are you getting out of that?

2 pts on ACT =/= 2 pts on SAT. LOL

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27 to 31 is 1290-1430

29 to 33 is 1360-1500

[Anonymous]

Try using current stats for UVA. Average is 30, average range to 33. DD had a 36. http://www.prepscholar.com/act/s/colleges/UVA-ACT-scores-GPA

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Whoops, just jumped again. Average ACT for class of 2017 is a 31. 4.28 GPA. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=1571&classYear=2021.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoops, just jumped again. Average ACT for class of 2017 is a 31. 4.28 GPA. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=1571&classYear=2021.

Can you provide data/link from UVa website?

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I just did.

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Also use reputable studies, like U.S> News & World Report. No one has heard of these international ratings publications. Everyone wants to get into the ratings game and follow U.S. News & World report because it's a money maker. UVA no. 2 in public universities in USA, 2016: https://news.virginia.edu/content/among-nations-elite-us-news-gives-uva-no-2-public-university-ranking.

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for some reason the collegedata.com link won't work. google UVA 2021 stats.

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Admissions stats for 2021 from the UVA Dean's blog:

Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% NEW SAT score: 1330-1490
Middle 50% ACT composite: 31-34
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals. Way more students submitted the new SAT than the old, so I'm dropping the stats about the old exam.

93.4% of admitted students were in the top 10% of their high school class
This number only reflects those who attend schools that report rank to colleges. Even if your school ranks, they may not report that statistic to colleges. Your counselor can tell you if your schools reports rank.


These are all the statistics I have for now. We are now throwing ourselves into the transfer review process.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoops, just jumped again. Average ACT for class of 2017 is a 31. 4.28 GPA. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=1571&classYear=2021.

There's literally no way of knowing that. Common data set won't come out until this fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoops, just jumped again. Average ACT for class of 2017 is a 31. 4.28 GPA. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=1571&classYear=2021.

There's literally no way of knowing that. Common data set won't come out until this fall.

From the DEAN of UVA, as requested:

Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% NEW SAT score: 1330-1490
Middle 50% ACT composite: 31-34
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals. Way more students submitted the new SAT than the old, so I'm dropping the stats about the old exam.

93.4% of admitted students were in the top 10% of their high school class
This number only reflects those who attend schools that report rank to colleges. Even if your school ranks, they may not report that statistic to colleges. Your counselor can tell you if your schools reports rank.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoops, just jumped again. Average ACT for class of 2017 is a 31. 4.28 GPA. http://www.collegedata.com/cs/admissions/admissions_tracker_result.jhtml?schoolId=1571&classYear=2021.

There's literally no way of knowing that. Common data set won't come out until this fall.

From the DEAN of UVA, as requested:

Testing/Rank (offers only)
Middle 50% NEW SAT score: 1330-1490
Middle 50% ACT composite: 31-34
We use scores from each section in our review, but the reports on averages generate totals. Way more students submitted the new SAT than the old, so I'm dropping the stats about the old exam.

93.4% of admitted students were in the top 10% of their high school class
This number only reflects those who attend schools that report rank to colleges. Even if your school ranks, they may not report that statistic to colleges. Your counselor can tell you if your schools reports rank.

Blog is not an official data. Same with data from the tutoring businesses. Data for Class of 2021 is not yet available. You must be really desperate.

[Anonymous]

Maybe all of you should put the screw caps back on your whine bottles and stop trying to live your lives through your kids. Go do something worthwhile. It won't hurt, I promise.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe all of you should put the screw caps back on your whine bottles and stop trying to live your lives through your kids. Go do something worthwhile. It won't hurt, I promise.

What are you doing on this board then? Pot meet kettle.