TJ - Neurobio cheating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As in is it a few large children whose weight adds up to 2000 lbs? Seriously, we will all know the stats of admissions from the regular pool and waitlist soon enough for real facts. (And If this post is a grown up saying they know a lot of kids and their direct decisionmaking - well, that's kind of creepy, particularly because 14 year olds don't tend to talk a lot to grown ups, not even their own parents) or (if this is a child posting about the reasons other children say they got into Tj but aren't going - hmmm - maybe they didn't really get into TJ after all ...).

In any event, there is also a new principal who has pledged to look at these issues. If you actually know the school you would know that already.

- well that's And the new Principal has

Okay. The new principal was announced a few days ago, spent a day at the school doing a meet and greet, and won't start until late July. She said something generic about student stress being an issue that should be looked at, and that it can lead to honor code violations. She also said she intends to spend a large part of next year listening and learning, and not making big immediate changes. She has not seen the surveys, or looked at this in depth. It will be almost 2 months before she moves her boxes into her new office. She certainly has no plan yet to deal with cheating. Like a lot of TJ parents, I HOPE she does a better job than Dr. Glazer has on this. But right now, there is no plan, and no pledge (beyond a generic listen and learn). I DO know the school. So I know she is not going to come in and solve the problem by winter break. If she is able to make improvements, it will take time.

[Anonymous]

I'll admit I haven't yet had coffee this morning, and I could have made careless errors in comprehension while reading the original post, but I'm not sure I see how this was cheating. This assumes I'm correct that cheating is defined in a way similar to "giving or receiving unauthorized assistance [on an assignment]." As described, it sounds potentially unethical but unless the students' actions violated a policy set out by the teacher of the course I wouldn't call their actions unauthorized. What did the teacher say about how questions were to be generated and assigned? This seems like an incredibly poor decision on the teacher's part that allowed questionable student actions to be a legitimate means of succeeding in compliance with course policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll admit I haven't yet had coffee this morning, and I could have made careless errors in comprehension while reading the original post, but I'm not sure I see how this was cheating. This assumes I'm correct that cheating is defined in a way similar to "giving or receiving unauthorized assistance [on an assignment]." As described, it sounds potentially unethical but unless the students' actions violated a policy set out by the teacher of the course I wouldn't call their actions unauthorized. What did the teacher say about how questions were to be generated and assigned? This seems like an incredibly poor decision on the teacher's part that allowed questionable student actions to be a legitimate means of succeeding in compliance with course policies.

Yes, it was teacher's fault. Let's hang the teacher, not the kids.

[Anonymous]

As i have stated earlier, I believe this is as much the teacher's fault as the kids'. I can't believe a teacher would allow students to make up test questions and decide which students get which questions. Sorry but that's the definition of either idiocy or laziness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'll admit I haven't yet had coffee this morning, and I could have made careless errors in comprehension while reading the original post, but I'm not sure I see how this was cheating. This assumes I'm correct that cheating is defined in a way similar to "giving or receiving unauthorized assistance [on an assignment]." As described, it sounds potentially unethical but unless the students' actions violated a policy set out by the teacher of the course I wouldn't call their actions unauthorized. What did the teacher say about how questions were to be generated and assigned? This seems like an incredibly poor decision on the teacher's part that allowed questionable student actions to be a legitimate means of succeeding in compliance with course policies.

This is how cheating is encouraged, and swept under the rug. People splitting hairs. This is unethical behavior the violates the code of conduct. It is cheating because the kids actively sought to gain better grades than other students. Any misconduct meant to enhance your grade over those of other students is cheating because it impacts GPAs.

[Anonymous]

What's even more pathetic is that they had an opportunity to ace the test with zero effort, but apparently that wasn't enough. They also had to make sure almost everybody else failed. With friends like that, who needs enemies?