TJ - Neurobio cheating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is TJ, is very good at Math and Science, and also interested in very many other things - like sports, languages, Model UN. That doesn't mean DC is not capable of graduate level research - DC has received the same training as all the other TJ students, participates in the same classes and labs. And DC is not planning on getting out of STEM, but will probably dual major in a foreign language. While only 1/4 of the class may win a national award in Science or such, the MAJORITY of the class engages in STEM topics and applies to Engineering/Math/Science program for college. A handful (less than 1/4) apply to other types of programs, but the rigorous nature of the research education they have received works well in all academic disciplines.

1/4 win a national science award????? Come on, man! Are you kidding?

Except the fact they cheat, TJ kids are really impressive.

Even with the rampant cheating, 1/4 still cannot win a national science award. LOL

[Anonymous]

19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

[Anonymous]

In any event, the 1/4 was my guesstimate as a TJ parent from the peer group of my DC and what I know they are doing -whether published or not. May that's overstated. Maybe it's only 1/10 of graduates that will have a national science award to put on their college app. Still an impressive group of students, most of whom do not cheat, in my experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

Did you just wake up and find this thread or do you like the taste of "dead horse" meat? Jeez!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

How do they cheat in any of the above listed competitions? you sound like a loser who is just plain jealous of these kids accomplishments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

How do they cheat in any of the above listed competitions? you sound like a loser who is just plain jealous of these kids accomplishments.

Not the PP you're responding to, but here is one outrageous way:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tjhsst/comments/5j613m/exposing_the_national_graphene_research_and/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

How do they cheat in any of the above listed competitions? you sound like a loser who is just plain jealous of these kids accomplishments.

Kids can buy research ideas and pay for assistance with the research. If TJ kids are willing to cheat on tests, I have no confidence in them not cheating elsewhere, which is why the school needs to really start cracking down on cheaters instead of just giving warnings. Cheating taints everything, even for kids who don't cheat. I'm not the pp who questioned the number of awards. But, I really don't care how many awards a school produces if it fosters a culture of cheating by going light on cheaters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

How do they cheat in any of the above listed competitions? you sound like a loser who is just plain jealous of these kids accomplishments.

You can't be serious. Don't you know how "creative" these kids are? They will find a way!! They always do. Cheater label is hard earned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

There are many more. TJ teams place 1st or 2nd at the American Computer Science League every year, which includes international teams. There is an MIT competition for innovation that was won by 2 TJ kids last year worth $8000 in addition to the prestige it brings. There are many many more that goes by unlisted. The fact is TJ kids are doing great, of course there are some problems, but the naysayers want to focus on the negatives only, and not look at the positives. Shame on them.

Shame on the cheaters and the school for allowing the culture of cheating to continue. Awards don't matter if you're a cheater.

How do they cheat in any of the above listed competitions? you sound like a loser who is just plain jealous of these kids accomplishments.

Not the PP you're responding to, but here is one outrageous way:

https://www.reddit.com/r/tjhsst/comments/5j613m/exposing_the_national_graphene_research_and/

Interesting reading! I think the recommendation to send it to VICE is a good one. I'd love to see the story they did on cheating at TJ and the cheaters winning national awards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

54 kids out of a school of about 1700 students.
How is that 1/4 of the students?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:19 qualifiers for US Physics Olympiad
https://www.aapt.org/physicsteam/2017/upload/Qualifier-list-for-web.pdf

12 students make it to Nationals in QuizBowl
http://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/tj-places-nd-in-national-quiz-bowl-championship/article_f3bd908e-29be-11e6-9e82-3fc34f1caac5.html

5 students in 2d place nationally for Science Bowl
https://www.tjtoday.org/20964/showcase/tj-science-bowl-receives-second-place-in-the-national-science-bowl/

5 awards here: https://tjpartnershipfund.org/2017/01/senior-is-youngest-forbes-30-under-30-winner/

13 Siemens & Intel Finalists/SemiFinalists here, along with 4 winners from a Spirit of Innovation team
http://tjpartnershipfund.org/2016/05/tj-seniors-win-research-awards/

That's 54 kids, for 1 year of a handful of competitions. As said before - not all are Siemens/Intel finalists, but many do compete at high levels and have national recognitions they can put on their applications.

Really????
Some are for 2016 and some are 2017. LOL
TJ students and parents cheat at everything.

[Anonymous]

Pp - it was based on a quick internet search and some of the competitions aren't over/published yet for 2017. And the results will be about the same this year as last (easy to check this if you want to bother). There's no doubling up. But whatever. Keep your world view that not many TJ students have awards, they all cheat, they are all actually worthless, their parents are scum, TJ will close tomorrow. Doesn't change the real world inhabited by me and my TJ DC at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pp - it was based on a quick internet search and some of the competitions aren't over/published yet for 2017. And the results will be about the same this year as last (easy to check this if you want to bother). There's no doubling up. But whatever. Keep your world view that not many TJ students have awards, they all cheat, they are all actually worthless, their parents are scum, TJ will close tomorrow. Doesn't change the real world inhabited by me and my TJ DC at all.

np - that maybe but having the "cheater school" reputation can't be good, right?