What's Jared Kushner's long game?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long game is he married a woman who outclasses him in every sense and turned her into an Orthodox Jew.

Does an Orthodox Jew dress as she does?

I'll bite. Certain orthodox women do, i'd say they're more commonly considered modern orthodox. Traditional orthodox women would cover their arms, etc. One thing I haven't thought to observe throughout this though is if there are images or video of Jared or Ivanka riding in a car, plane, etc. on a Saturday. If so, then they are most certainly not orthodox - modern or traditional. Orthodox Jews observe the sabbath. Not that any of this really matters anyway.

Appreciate the response. Not many Jews in my area and I really don't understand all the different factions.

Then educate yourself beyond asking weird questions on a parenting board.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long game is he married a woman who outclasses him in every sense and turned her into an Orthodox Jew.

Does an Orthodox Jew dress as she does?

I'll bite. Certain orthodox women do, i'd say they're more commonly considered modern orthodox. Traditional orthodox women would cover their arms, etc. One thing I haven't thought to observe throughout this though is if there are images or video of Jared or Ivanka riding in a car, plane, etc. on a Saturday. If so, then they are most certainly not orthodox - modern or traditional. Orthodox Jews observe the sabbath. Not that any of this really matters anyway.

Appreciate the response. Not many Jews in my area and I really don't understand all the different factions.

Then educate yourself beyond asking weird questions on a parenting board.

Actually - it was helpful to me as well. The person responded to the question in a clear and coherent manner, and in an non-judgemental tone. Asking a question, is a way of informing yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long game is he married a woman who outclasses him in every sense and turned her into an Orthodox Jew.

Does an Orthodox Jew dress as she does?

I'll bite. Certain orthodox women do, i'd say they're more commonly considered modern orthodox. Traditional orthodox women would cover their arms, etc. One thing I haven't thought to observe throughout this though is if there are images or video of Jared or Ivanka riding in a car, plane, etc. on a Saturday. If so, then they are most certainly not orthodox - modern or traditional. Orthodox Jews observe the sabbath. Not that any of this really matters anyway.

Appreciate the response. Not many Jews in my area and I really don't understand all the different factions.

Then educate yourself beyond asking weird questions on a parenting board.

I'm the person who responded, and a Jew. It was not a weird question at all. I actually thought it was a totally normal question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long game is he married a woman who outclasses him in every sense and turned her into an Orthodox Jew.

Does an Orthodox Jew dress as she does?

I'll bite. Certain orthodox women do, i'd say they're more commonly considered modern orthodox. Traditional orthodox women would cover their arms, etc. One thing I haven't thought to observe throughout this though is if there are images or video of Jared or Ivanka riding in a car, plane, etc. on a Saturday. If so, then they are most certainly not orthodox - modern or traditional. Orthodox Jews observe the sabbath. Not that any of this really matters anyway.

Appreciate the response. Not many Jews in my area and I really don't understand all the different factions.

Does just anyone determine for themselves what's actually "Jewish"?

Generally no. I don't think any synagogue - reform, conservative and certainly not orthodox - would consider someone Jewish unless they are by matrilineal descent, or they converted. That said, my guess is many reform and reconstructionist synagogues would be welcoming to "non-Jews" who are interested in the religion, attending services, etc. But you can't simply declare yourself as Jewish - but the religion is generally very welcoming to people who are serious about converting. Unfortunately it can get more complicated from there. Take a child of a woman converted by a reform rabbi - like me - who was raised in a very traditional conservative household, when to hebrew day school, has identified as Jewish their whole life. Since my mother was not converted by an orthodox rabbi, I am not considered Jewish in the eyes of the Orthodox synagogue. But because of the 1/4 rule in Israel, since I have 2 Jewish grandparents, I am automatically entitled to citizenship.

[Anonymous]

The religious thing is an act. Kushner clan is all degenerates.

[Anonymous]

To get a pardon for his father who went to jail on 18 counts (tax fraud, illegal campaign contributions, retaliating against a business). Father can't do a lot of business with his record. If he gets a full pardon from the POTUS, he can do so.

Christie was the one prosecuted him. It is payback time for Kushner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He'll get the credibility and stature that no amount of money could buy. Plus, he'll have access to the worlds most powerful people. I do wonder how he reconciles his faith and the close proximity of Bannon but guessing the guy's used to shadiness in his life.

Disrespect and notoriety, you mean. I don't know why he and Ivanka want to do this. They'll be persona non grata in NYC if they keep this up... their children will be shunned. Actively supporting anti-Semites, racists, bigots, misogynists. They don't move in those circles, they clearly want to be part of the cultural elite. Ivanka's daughter is learning Chinese because she knows it will be the language of the future. Meanwhile her father is talking some nativist, isolationist garbage. The cognitive dissonance is unbearable.

[Anonymous]

I think Trump will pardon Kushner's father, if not soon, then right before he leaves office. Mark my words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The religious thing is an act. Kushner clan is all degenerates.

+1

It's an appeal to tribalism and tapping that network of relations. They obvious don't spend much time pondering the moral lessons in the Torah.

[Anonymous]

You guys are all really vicious about 2 people that I am assuming you don't know personally.

Ivanka converted Orthodox. She is 100% jewish, regardless of how she dresses or whether she observes Shabbat. Her children are Jewish. Jared's father committed crimes and did his time for them. Jared has committed no crimes, nor has he ever been charged with one.

I am not a Trump supporter but these vicious attacks are completely unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To get a pardon for his father who went to jail on 18 counts (tax fraud, illegal campaign contributions, retaliating against a business). Father can't do a lot of business with his record. If he gets a full pardon from the POTUS, he can do so.

Christie was the one prosecuted him. It is payback time for Kushner.

+1. Interesting article in Vanity Fair - http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/what-does-jared-kushner-really-want

[Anonymous]

For what it's worth, read an article pre-election that pointed out that Trump's worst Twitter rants happened on Saturdays, when his daughter and son-in-law would have been observing the Sabbath and he was therefore unsupervised.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To get a pardon for his father who went to jail on 18 counts (tax fraud, illegal campaign contributions, retaliating against a business). Father can't do a lot of business with his record. If he gets a full pardon from the POTUS, he can do so.

Christie was the one prosecuted him. It is payback time for Kushner.

Did Jared's mom or dad even give any money to Trump's campaign?

[Anonymous]

To become President himself one day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Long game is he married a woman who outclasses him in every sense and turned her into an Orthodox Jew.

Does an Orthodox Jew dress as she does?

I'll bite. Certain orthodox women do, i'd say they're more commonly considered modern orthodox. Traditional orthodox women would cover their arms, etc. One thing I haven't thought to observe throughout this though is if there are images or video of Jared or Ivanka riding in a car, plane, etc. on a Saturday. If so, then they are most certainly not orthodox - modern or traditional. Orthodox Jews observe the sabbath. Not that any of this really matters anyway.

Appreciate the response. Not many Jews in my area and I really don't understand all the different factions.

Does just anyone determine for themselves what's actually "Jewish"?

Generally no. I don't think any synagogue - reform, conservative and certainly not orthodox - would consider someone Jewish unless they are by matrilineal descent, or they converted. That said, my guess is many reform and reconstructionist synagogues would be welcoming to "non-Jews" who are interested in the religion, attending services, etc. But you can't simply declare yourself as Jewish - but the religion is generally very welcoming to people who are serious about converting. Unfortunately it can get more complicated from there. Take a child of a woman converted by a reform rabbi - like me - who was raised in a very traditional conservative household, when to hebrew day school, has identified as Jewish their whole life. Since my mother was not converted by an orthodox rabbi, I am not considered Jewish in the eyes of the Orthodox synagogue. But because of the 1/4 rule in Israel, since I have 2 Jewish grandparents, I am automatically entitled to citizenship.

how horrible