S/o (VA public schools). IB and college preparedness

[Anonymous]

A full ride is so sweet!

So, IB means a full ride and AP does not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A full ride is so sweet!

So, IB means a full ride and AP does not?

For us IB meant a full ride. I can't comment on AP because DC didn't do AP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

my dd did ib and ended up taking a full ride to an average state school rather than half scholarships and acceptances to top schools. frankly she breezed through college and will be attendind a tippy top professional school in the fall. she claimed that ib prepared her well for college. she also took ap classes for additional gpa boost and credits.

And, she couldn't have done that with AP?

Don't even bother trying to answer this poster. Let him/her just go argue with him/herself for a while.
Meanwhile, thank you for sharing your dd's experience.

Not the prior poster but more AP kids get scholarships. Not even close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, placing IB in weak schools makes the IB program appear weak. The thought that giving Stuart and Lee an IB program will somehow make those schools better (if that was the intention) is baseless, and is demonstrated by the weak participation and results (relatively low percent of IB DP candidates actually get the diploma) there.

Can't argue with that.

Anonymous wrote:

That sounds like the devil reading scripture. Yes, IB HL is hard but the example was for IB HL Math, not all IB HL. As you have seen from previously posted stats, plenty of seniors get the IB Diploma, and they can't do that unless they earn a grade of 5 or better on ALL their HL exams. No one is arguing the IB is for everyone. Indeed, it is not for most students. That does not mean it is not a good fit for ANY student.

Actually, the previously posted stats underscore that few students get the IB Diploma in FCPS. Yes, IB may be a good fit for some students, but there have been few useful posts as to which students fall into that category, and a lot of self-serving platitudes offered instead about how IB is for "deep thinkers," whereas AP purportedly consists of nothing but multiple-choice exams. So I'd invite you again to explain which students might benefit more from IB than from AP and why. We are paying an awful lot of money for this program, so please be specific this time.

Crickets...

[Anonymous]

Okay, so this thread is officially a lost cause, and has gone from having some interesting information on the substance of IB a to becoming a way for the FCPS a crazies to bash IB as implemented in FCPS (and it's not like anyone is saying FCPS a implemented IB a well, so I'm not sure what their arging about..)

So for everyone so unhappy with FCPS IB that they can't contain themselves to the VA public schools thread and have to cross post and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of every IB discussion, I'd really like to know: do you have any first hand experience with IB? Did you have DCs go through it? Or even go to an IB a night and find out what IB is about? This is a s/o-- you don't need to rehash the same tired argument in 2 places.

[Anonymous]

Okay, so this thread is officially a lost cause, and has gone from having some interesting information on the substance of IB a to becoming a way for the FCPS a crazies to bash IB as implemented in FCPS (and it's not like anyone is saying FCPS a implemented IB a well, so I'm not sure what their arging about..)

So for everyone so unhappy with FCPS IB that they can't contain themselves to the VA public schools thread and have to cross post and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of every IB discussion, I'd really like to know: do you have any first hand experience with IB? Did you have DCs go through it? Or even go to an IB a night and find out what IB is about? This is a s/o-- you don't need to rehash the same tired argument in 2 places.

People *have* posted exactly this, but you (assuming you are the OP) continue to ignore/discount anything that anyone says that isn't in line with your agenda, and to insult anyone (crazies?) who doesn't agree with you. Wanna see crazy? Look in a mirror.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Okay, so this thread is officially a lost cause, and has gone from having some interesting information on the substance of IB a to becoming a way for the FCPS a crazies to bash IB as implemented in FCPS (and it's not like anyone is saying FCPS a implemented IB a well, so I'm not sure what their arging about..)

So for everyone so unhappy with FCPS IB that they can't contain themselves to the VA public schools thread and have to cross post and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of every IB discussion, I'd really like to know: do you have any first hand experience with IB? Did you have DCs go through it? Or even go to an IB a night and find out what IB is about? This is a s/o-- you don't need to rehash the same tired argument in 2 places.

There are 2-3 crazies keep posting the same thing. It's shame really...

[Anonymous]

Okay, so this thread is officially a lost cause, and has gone from having some interesting information on the substance of IB a to becoming a way for the FCPS a crazies to bash IB as implemented in FCPS (and it's not like anyone is saying FCPS a implemented IB a well, so I'm not sure what their arging about..)

So for everyone so unhappy with FCPS IB that they can't contain themselves to the VA public schools thread and have to cross post and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of every IB discussion, I'd really like to know: do you have any first hand experience with IB? Did you have DCs go through it? Or even go to an IB a night and find out what IB is about? This is a s/o-- you don't need to rehash the same tired argument in 2 places.

So, it is crazy to post criticism of IB? Why don't you tell us why IB prepares kids better for college than AP. I know that neither of my kids' roommates felt they were better prepared.
There is an IB supporter on here that assumes that IB prepares kids much better than AP. She keeps throwing out the writing element. I guess if a child takes no AP English or History classes, that it is possible. However, AP English and History are writing intensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Okay, so this thread is officially a lost cause, and has gone from having some interesting information on the substance of IB a to becoming a way for the FCPS a crazies to bash IB as implemented in FCPS (and it's not like anyone is saying FCPS a implemented IB a well, so I'm not sure what their arging about..)

So for everyone so unhappy with FCPS IB that they can't contain themselves to the VA public schools thread and have to cross post and throw a temper tantrum in the middle of every IB discussion, I'd really like to know: do you have any first hand experience with IB? Did you have DCs go through it? Or even go to an IB a night and find out what IB is about? This is a s/o-- you don't need to rehash the same tired argument in 2 places.

So, it is crazy to post criticism of IB? Why don't you tell us why IB prepares kids better for college than AP. I know that neither of my kids' roommates felt they were better prepared.
There is an IB supporter on here that assumes that IB prepares kids much better than AP. She keeps throwing out the writing element. I guess if a child takes no AP English or History classes, that it is possible. However, AP English and History are writing intensive.

+1000. The crazies here are the people who keep claiming IB is great and that people would understand if only they went to an "IB night," all without providing any specifics about what IB supposedly does well. Talk about a tired - or at least shallow - argument!

[Anonymous]

People who live in IB zones, perhaps we can start some kind of message board to help each other help our kids. All IB programs are not the same, course choices are not the same, etc. I would really appreciate input from others. I'm Fairfax, but would welcome advice from MoCo folks too, or even WIS or WALLS parents, who have or have had kids go through IB. The AP ranters are not helping me anymore than someone who insists my kids really should be in an independent school if they want a good education. We can only work within our real options. Are there already existing sites? Makes me appreciate Jeff & Co even more, since I really don't want to spend m summer setting up and monitoring a site... Open to suggestions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who live in IB zones, perhaps we can start some kind of message board to help each other help our kids. All IB programs are not the same, course choices are not the same, etc. I would really appreciate input from others. I'm Fairfax, but would welcome advice from MoCo folks too, or even WIS or WALLS parents, who have or have had kids go through IB. The AP ranters are not helping me anymore than someone who insists my kids really should be in an independent school if they want a good education. We can only work within our real options. Are there already existing sites? Makes me appreciate Jeff & Co even more, since I really don't want to spend m summer setting up and monitoring a site... Open to suggestions.

You won't get anything useful from this board. A couple of AP crazies will try to interfere with anything IB. Try College Confidential.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who live in IB zones, perhaps we can start some kind of message board to help each other help our kids. All IB programs are not the same, course choices are not the same, etc. I would really appreciate input from others. I'm Fairfax, but would welcome advice from MoCo folks too, or even WIS or WALLS parents, who have or have had kids go through IB. The AP ranters are not helping me anymore than someone who insists my kids really should be in an independent school if they want a good education. We can only work within our real options. Are there already existing sites? Makes me appreciate Jeff & Co even more, since I really don't want to spend m summer setting up and monitoring a site... Open to suggestions.

You won't get anything useful from this board. A couple of AP crazies will try to interfere with anything IB. Try College Confidential.

The problem is that IB boosters resort to generalities when praising IB, and then get their panties in a bunch when others provide factual information about the lower performance of IB schools and students at IB schools and/or the higher costs associated with the program.

[Anonymous]

IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

[Anonymous]

Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

[Anonymous]

Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

Now everything is clear: the OP works for college confidential.