S/o (VA public schools). IB and college preparedness

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

+1. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

Now everything is clear: the OP works for college confidential.

OP here, and and I am the parent of a rising 8th grader. If I did work for CC, I certainly wouldn't wait for I8 pages to post a link. I was taking a PPs advice to look at College Confidential for info. But it is interesting that many people in schools with AP and IB a are saying that The IB a diploma are the "most rigorous" course of study, and that kids in those schools take the AP Test after the first IB year, because it it roughly equivalent in everything but calculus and physics to an SL class-- that is that the HL class is more rigorous, except in calculus and physics.

[Anonymous]

^^8 pages, not I8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

IB students can take AP exams,but students from IB schools in FCPS taking AP exams are a mere drop in the bucket. Most are from Robinson, a big school that offers some AP courses, and the average AP test scores for Robinson students were poor across the board and below the county average in 2012-13, according to FCPS data. The best preparation in FCPS for AP exams is taking AP classes at AP-only schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

Now everything is clear: the OP works for college confidential.

OP here, and and I am the parent of a rising 8th grader. If I did work for CC, I certainly wouldn't wait for I8 pages to post a link. I was taking a PPs advice to look at College Confidential for info. But it is interesting that many people in schools with AP and IB a are saying that The IB a diploma are the "most rigorous" course of study, and that kids in those schools take the AP Test after the first IB year, because it it roughly equivalent in everything but calculus and physics to an SL class-- that is that the HL class is more rigorous, except in calculus and physics.

It's not really that interesting, as paid shills for the IBO post regularly on CC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Actual useful information:

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/1752202-ap-vs-ib.html

Now everything is clear: the OP works for college confidential.

OP here, and and I am the parent of a rising 8th grader. If I did work for CC, I certainly wouldn't wait for I8 pages to post a link. I was taking a PPs advice to look at College Confidential for info. But it is interesting that many people in schools with AP and IB a are saying that The IB a diploma are the "most rigorous" course of study, and that kids in those schools take the AP Test after the first IB year, because it it roughly equivalent in everything but calculus and physics to an SL class-- that is that the HL class is more rigorous, except in calculus and physics.

It's not really that interesting, as paid shills for the IBO post regularly on CC.

Seriously??

[Anonymous]

This is a more instructive CC article.

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/ap-vs-ib/

It notes that admissions officers tend to look at IB diploma candidates and students with AP-laden (not the same thing as AP-exclusive) transcripts similarly; notes some look with disfavor at students at IB schools who aren't pursuing a diploma; and suggests that typical IB exam results in this area may not get you much college credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

IB students can take AP exams,but students from IB schools in FCPS taking AP exams are a mere drop in the bucket. Most are from Robinson, a big school that offers some AP courses, and the average AP test scores for Robinson students were poor across the board and below the county average in 2012-13, according to FCPS data. The best preparation in FCPS for AP exams is taking AP classes at AP-only schools.

Then FCPS's AP numbers are inflated - any IB kid who takes AP will be counted as "AP" student and the exams counted with AP exams taken. But, since AP kids can't take IB exams, it will always inflate the AP data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is a more instructive CC article.

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/ap-vs-ib/

It notes that admissions officers tend to look at IB diploma candidates and students with AP-laden (not the same thing as AP-exclusive) transcripts similarly; notes some look with disfavor at students at IB schools who aren't pursuing a diploma; and suggests that typical IB exam results in this area may not get you much college credit.

Just wanted to point out the author - Sally R - is a parent well known to CC readers. She is not an admission officer even though she is known as "Dean".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

IB students can take AP exams,but students from IB schools in FCPS taking AP exams are a mere drop in the bucket. Most are from Robinson, a big school that offers some AP courses, and the average AP test scores for Robinson students were poor across the board and below the county average in 2012-13, according to FCPS data. The best preparation in FCPS for AP exams is taking AP classes at AP-only schools.

Then FCPS's AP numbers are inflated - any IB kid who takes AP will be counted as "AP" student and the exams counted with AP exams taken. But, since AP kids can't take IB exams, it will always inflate the AP data.

Yes, there are more students taking AP exams and more AP exams administered because students at IB schools can take AP exams. Duh.

It is odd to use the term "inflate" when those students actually are a drag on the average AP exam results for FCPS students. Maybe if IB had more to offer the students at IB schools would only take IB exams, or would be better prepared for the AP exams they do take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a more instructive CC article.

http://www.collegeconfidential.com/dean/ap-vs-ib/

It notes that admissions officers tend to look at IB diploma candidates and students with AP-laden (not the same thing as AP-exclusive) transcripts similarly; notes some look with disfavor at students at IB schools who aren't pursuing a diploma; and suggests that typical IB exam results in this area may not get you much college credit.

Just wanted to point out the author - Sally R - is a parent well known to CC readers. She is not an admission officer even though she is known as "Dean".

She's not given such a platform on CC because she's a parent, but because she was an admissions officer at Smith for over 15 years and then a private college admissions counselor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

IB students can take AP exams,but students from IB schools in FCPS taking AP exams are a mere drop in the bucket. Most are from Robinson, a big school that offers some AP courses, and the average AP test scores for Robinson students were poor across the board and below the county average in 2012-13, according to FCPS data. The best preparation in FCPS for AP exams is taking AP classes at AP-only schools.

Then FCPS's AP numbers are inflated - any IB kid who takes AP will be counted as "AP" student and the exams counted with AP exams taken. But, since AP kids can't take IB exams, it will always inflate the AP data.

Yes, there are more students taking AP exams and more AP exams administered because students at IB schools can take AP exams. Duh.

It is odd to use the term "inflate" when those students actually are a drag on the average AP exam results for FCPS students. Maybe if IB had more to offer the students at IB schools would only take IB exams, or would be better prepared for the AP exams they do take.

So, these kids are not only wasting FCPS resources, they are a drag on AP exam results? Is that what you are saying?

[Anonymous]

Question: Do they get to take the AP exams for free and the IB exams for free? Are we paying for double exams? Add that to the cost. Cut IB now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question: Do they get to take the AP exams for free and the IB exams for free? Are we paying for double exams? Add that to the cost. Cut IB now.

Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IB kids allowed to take AP exams in FCPS? If so, your AP numbers probably include bunch of IB kids too.

IB students can take AP exams,but students from IB schools in FCPS taking AP exams are a mere drop in the bucket. Most are from Robinson, a big school that offers some AP courses, and the average AP test scores for Robinson students were poor across the board and below the county average in 2012-13, according to FCPS data. The best preparation in FCPS for AP exams is taking AP classes at AP-only schools.

Then FCPS's AP numbers are inflated - any IB kid who takes AP will be counted as "AP" student and the exams counted with AP exams taken. But, since AP kids can't take IB exams, it will always inflate the AP data.

Yes, there are more students taking AP exams and more AP exams administered because students at IB schools can take AP exams. Duh.

It is odd to use the term "inflate" when those students actually are a drag on the average AP exam results for FCPS students. Maybe if IB had more to offer the students at IB schools would only take IB exams, or would be better prepared for the AP exams they do take.

So, these kids are not only wasting FCPS resources, they are a drag on AP exam results? Is that what you are saying?

Students at IB schools in FCPS who take AP exams have a negative impact on the average AP test results for the county. They depress, not inflate, those AP numbers, although not by very much, since the overwhelming majority of AP exam takers in FCPS attend AP schools. I never said "kids" are wasting FCPS resources. FCPS does a good enough job of that on its own.