How to Tell the Good Kids from Bad

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, but when I talked about my experiences, I never mentioned the race of the children. You made your own assumptions. I am not a racist, whatever you may think. The OP was asking what to do when her kids might see things she didn't want them to witness. If you live in any urban setting, this will probably happen and your kids may be affected. My kids were scared when they saw older kids fighting at the playground. Does that make me a racist? I am sure lots of parents of all races would like to shield their kids from things that are scary.

If you're only asking upper class white parents, then yes that makes OP racist. If not racist, at the very least an idiotic person.

I see many more idiotic comments in DCUM than racist ones, so let's give OP the benefit of the doubt. His post was VERY idiotic, to be precise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but when I talked about my experiences, I never mentioned the race of the children. You made your own assumptions. I am not a racist, whatever you may think. The OP was asking what to do when her kids might see things she didn't want them to witness. If you live in any urban setting, this will probably happen and your kids may be affected. My kids were scared when they saw older kids fighting at the playground. Does that make me a racist? I am sure lots of parents of all races would like to shield their kids from things that are scary.

If you're only asking upper class white parents, then yes that makes OP racist. If not racist, at the very least an idiotic person.

I see many more idiotic comments in DCUM than racist ones, so let's give OP the benefit of the doubt. His post was VERY idiotic, to be precise.

PP you're quoting. Fair enough. Break given.

[Anonymous]

Again, I am not the OP!!! I was responding to OP's question with my own experiences as another parent who lives in Petworth. And, I never mentioned race in my post. I think the original post didn't phrase the question well, but the question of what to do when your kids are exposed to things you don't want your kids to see, such as aggression and cursing. And I am sure lower SES parents and parents of all races have asked themselves the same question!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but when I talked about my experiences, I never mentioned the race of the children. You made your own assumptions. I am not a racist, whatever you may think. The OP was asking what to do when her kids might see things she didn't want them to witness. If you live in any urban setting, this will probably happen and your kids may be affected. My kids were scared when they saw older kids fighting at the playground. Does that make me a racist? I am sure lots of parents of all races would like to shield their kids from things that are scary.

If you're only asking upper class white parents, then yes that makes OP racist. If not racist, at the very least an idiotic person.

I see many more idiotic comments in DCUM than racist ones, so let's give OP the benefit of the doubt. His post was VERY idiotic, to be precise.

PP you're quoting. Fair enough. Break given.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two people with good jobs is not High SES, it's really middle class in this area. High SES folks can afford good private schools and do NOT live in transitional neighborhoods. DC transplants love to themselves this when they are really middle class. Especially in this area. One job away from the poor does not equate HIGH SES.

Can you please point us to the government document where "high social-economic status (SES)" is officially defined?

It's all relative. It's also not all about money, but education as well.

What are you talking about? Government documents? Stop killing the middle class.

Stop killing the middle class? What does that have to do with the question how you define (or in your case, police) the term "high SES"? Why are the terms "middle class" and "high SES" mutually exclusive? If you define a family with a HHI of, say $150K as middle class, that's fine, but they can also be classified as high SES in a relative sense to many others (and they might be buying both EOTP and WOTP). This is really a pointless argument.

Aside from that, I agree with you that there are many politicians in this country (most notably in the Republican party) who have little regard for the middle class in their policies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two people with good jobs is not High SES, it's really middle class in this area. High SES folks can afford good private schools and do NOT live in transitional neighborhoods. DC transplants love to themselves this when they are really middle class. Especially in this area. One job away from the poor does not equate HIGH SES.

Can you please point us to the government document where "high social-economic status (SES)" is officially defined?

It's all relative. It's also not all about money, but education as well.

What are you talking about? Government documents? Stop killing the middle class.

And in case that wasn't obvious to you, I mentioned "government documents" in order to point out that you have no basis for telling others what they should mean by "high SES", because it's not an official term that requires a particular net worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP was a troll but the question is valid and not just limited to exposure in school. Recently was at Raymoond Rec center and kids with either caregiver were cursing up storm. Kids seemed sweet but caregiver screamed at them, using variety of cuss words. Kids followed lead and yelled out " name of person, sucks dick" At the playground with tons of young kids all around. Another mother hit her two year old for crying.

If you live in a transitioning area, it is difficult to shield your kids from these things. Yes, this could happen in more affluent suburbs but it is less likely.

I see this almost daily at a an area close to this but another. Its awful. I know it scares my kid to see the hitting and she wonders out loud about it. I don't know what to say about it To just say "thats how some families act" is excusing horrific parenting and behavior. And this is also one reason most high SES families are out of DCPS schools (unless they are west of the park) by 4th grade.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Iagree 07:53 but who wants to explain what "suck dick" means at an elementary school aged child. Still, we made the choice to live in the area and understood that are kids might be exposed to things we didn't like.

Honestly, my experience is that kids who are most likely to say stuff like "suck dick" are parroting older siblings, regardless of SES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, but when I talked about my experiences, I never mentioned the race of the children. You made your own assumptions. I am not a racist, whatever you may think. The OP was asking what to do when her kids might see things she didn't want them to witness. If you live in any urban setting, this will probably happen and your kids may be affected. My kids were scared when they saw older kids fighting at the playground. Does that make me a racist? I am sure lots of parents of all races would like to shield their kids from things that are scary.

If you're only asking upper class white parents, then yes that makes OP racist. If not racist, at the very least an idiotic person.

I see many more idiotic comments in DCUM than racist ones, so let's give OP the benefit of the doubt. His post was VERY idiotic, to be precise.

No let's not give them the benefit of the doubt. The OP post was racist. How can anyone take this post "as it was originally written" seriously or defend it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two people with good jobs is not High SES, it's really middle class in this area. High SES folks can afford good private schools and do NOT live in transitional neighborhoods. DC transplants love to themselves this when they are really middle class. Especially in this area. One job away from the poor does not equate HIGH SES.

Can you please point us to the government document where "high social-economic status (SES)" is officially defined?

It's all relative. It's also not all about money, but education as well.

What are you talking about? Government documents? Stop killing the middle class.

I think PP is saying a household that brings in $250k is considered higher SES. Contrary to what people think, there are people making $250k buying in Petworth, Columbia Heights, Shepherd Park, Brookland and others. Not just WOTP.

NP. Our HHI is double that and we bought in one of the neighborhoods you listed. Our children attend private school though for various reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if OP was a troll but the question is valid and not just limited to exposure in school. Recently was at Raymoond Rec center and kids with either caregiver were cursing up storm. Kids seemed sweet but caregiver screamed at them, using variety of cuss words. Kids followed lead and yelled out " name of person, sucks dick" At the playground with tons of young kids all around. Another mother hit her two year old for crying.

If you live in a transitioning area, it is difficult to shield your kids from these things. Yes, this could happen in more affluent suburbs but it is less likely.

I see this almost daily at a an area close to this but another. Its awful. I know it scares my kid to see the hitting and she wonders out loud about it. I don't know what to say about it To just say "thats how some families act" is excusing horrific parenting and behavior. And this is also one reason most high SES families are out of DCPS schools (unless they are west of the park) by 4th grade.

FWIW, I have spent a lot of time at playgrounds WOTP over the past two years, and I have never witnessed anything like this.

[Anonymous]

I have found OP, that the bad ones usually smell faintly of cabbage.,

[Anonymous]

OP, how do I protect myself from the "bad" adults? Please describe yourself in detail so that I may avoid you. Include make and model of SUV as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, how do I protect myself from the "bad" adults? Please describe yourself in detail so that I may avoid you. Include make and model of SUV as well.

The good adults smell like 420, bad ones beer.