Recently discovered some of my family came on the Mayflower; anyone else?

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LSA is a messageboard

http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthread.php?t=603940

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Anonymous wrote:LSA is a psychedelic ergoline alkaloid closely related to LSD. It is most commonly taken by consuming an extraction made from Ipomoea tricolor ( Morning glory) ...

OP took some right before she bragged about having relatives that killed tons of people.

LOL!

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Anonymous wrote:It is not that they are being held responsible, but to brag or to feel pride.

Hey just found out my grandfather was lee harvey oswald... How cool is that.

Anybody else have a relative that killed people?

sure. everyone on the mayflower and all their descendent killed people. each and every last one of them did. yup.

I would say Bitch,Bye but 21:53 told me not too.

[Anonymous]

The trade that made the colony was salted cod. It was a cheap food to feed the slave populations of the sugar island in the Caribbean. Many did stave b/c they did not eat fish..including lobster, cod, Altantic salmon, shell fish etc. Lobster were so plentiful, you could just pick them up at low tide, but some people are picky eater.

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Anonymous wrote:that isn't the fault of anyone on this board

What isn't their fault, that they celebrate and revere people who owned people, stold other people's lznd and spread disease and acted like their very presence was doing THEM a favor?
Manifest Destiny Mother*******!!
Put that your license plate!

you do know most white people were not slave owners, right?

Exactly most... But it is well documented that the Mayflower 26 started slavery in the US.

Interesting to know if family was on the Mayflower but not exactly something to be proud and excited about.

Like, wow just found out my family was on the Mayflower and I am very sorry, then send some money to a scholarship or something.

Why? I didn't do anything.

Should today's Germans be responsible for a Jewish scholarship fund?

Today's Germans actually express great shame for the role they/their relatives played, and a level of sensitivity toward the victims and their descendants that we never saw here in the US. That is a huge part of why our country still hasn't truly moved on. You can't get past something until you acknowledge what really happened, what REALLY happened, and try to make things right. Slavery ended long ago, but as recently as a generation ago, we were STILL doing much of the same shit. We are STILL doing much of the same shit. You SHOULD be ashamed.

We haven't moved on because you're holding people who are alive today responsible for something they have no control over.

I think you mean "had" no control over, but interestingly enough your error points to the real issue. You DO have control over NOW. Acknowledge that your ancestors did awful awful things. Stop bragging about your connection to them, and denying the awful things they did. Stop blaming the people who remind you. Do your best to remember and to keep history from repeating itself. We are still denying people their basic human rights. We are still discriminating. The descendants of those people are still hurting. Its ancient history to you, and something you're blissfully unaware of on a daily basis. I am confronted with the burden of my skin color every time I look in the mirror. The emotional scars on my mother and grandparents are not easily ignored, and it enrages me if I think about it too hard.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're not some special snowflake.

Lots of Americans have ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower.

There were only 102 passengers, so I doubt there are "lots" of people related to them.

[Anonymous]

I am a descendent of Francis & John Cooke (father & son who traveled on the Mayflower). One of the millions of descendents. Not old money/DAR.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're not some special snowflake.

Lots of Americans have ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower.

There were only 102 passengers, so I doubt there are "lots" of people related to them.

Do you know how lineage works? It grows exponentially each time. We're talking 400 years. There are LOTS of people related to them.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're not some special snowflake.

Lots of Americans have ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower.

There were only 102 passengers, so I doubt there are "lots" of people related to them.

You're kidding, right? 102 original passengers, several kids each, 9, 10, 11 generations since then. Do the math.

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Anonymous wrote: Wish people would realize that there was a time when free man were able to married whoever they wanted to. So please stop with the with they were raped. Yes black and white women were raped by black and white men. BTW I am AA.

Not a very bright one evidently.
Maybe your ratites were on the Mayflower--Ledo deck!!

WOW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a descendent of Francis & John Cooke (father & son who traveled on the Mayflower). One of the millions of descendents. Not old money/DAR.

Old money? More like stolen money or money from crimes against humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're not some special snowflake.

Lots of Americans have ancestors who arrived on the Mayflower.

There were only 102 passengers, so I doubt there are "lots" of people related to them.

According to the society of Mayflower Descendants, they have 26,500 members but estimate that there may be as many as "twenty to thirty million" descendants.

Apparently Pilgrims and rabbits have a lot in common.

Here's a link to the statement:

http://www.americanancestors.org/the-society-of-mayflower-descendants-pt1/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:that isn't the fault of anyone on this board

What isn't their fault, that they celebrate and revere people who owned people, stold other people's lznd and spread disease and acted like their very presence was doing THEM a favor?
Manifest Destiny Mother*******!!
Put that your license plate!

you do know most white people were not slave owners, right?

Exactly most... But it is well documented that the Mayflower 26 started slavery in the US.

Interesting to know if family was on the Mayflower but not exactly something to be proud and excited about.

Like, wow just found out my family was on the Mayflower and I am very sorry, then send some money to a scholarship or something.

Why? I didn't do anything.

Should today's Germans be responsible for a Jewish scholarship fund?

Today's Germans actually express great shame for the role they/their relatives played, and a level of sensitivity toward the victims and their descendants that we never saw here in the US. That is a huge part of why our country still hasn't truly moved on. You can't get past something until you acknowledge what really happened, what REALLY happened, and try to make things right. Slavery ended long ago, but as recently as a generation ago, we were STILL doing much of the same shit. We are STILL doing much of the same shit. You SHOULD be ashamed.

I read that the older generation in Germany is very concerned with the younger generations and their growing indifference to their shameful history. They fear they will grow up to repeat the mistakes their generation made. This is also true of the younger generation in Japan wrt their country's brutal and shameful history.

Japan is toast. Fukashima = karma

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Anonymous wrote:I am a descendent of Francis & John Cooke (father & son who traveled on the Mayflower). One of the millions of descendents. Not old money/DAR.

Old money? More like stolen money or money from crimes against humanity.

What's your address? I'm coming over to kick you and steal your wallet. You know, family traditions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a descendent of Francis & John Cooke (father & son who traveled on the Mayflower). One of the millions of descendents. Not old money/DAR.

Old money? More like stolen money or money from crimes against humanity.

What's your address? I'm coming over to kick you and steal your wallet. You know, family traditions.