Colvin Run Elementary School

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

so, but the grass isn't always greener. We live near to Colvin Run and have attended meetings and summer camps there. The work the kids produce on the walls and the programs I read at the school sound wonderful. The divide doesn't sound like a good situation, but the kids and teachers generally seem to be doing a good job. And this divide kind of baffles me because I see a lot of positivity project/character building writing and projects on the walls over there.

Yes, the whole "character building" BS seems to be a way for the administration to say, "See? We're telling all the children to be nice to each other, to have compassion, respect, blah blah blah for one another. So it's impossible that anything negative could be occurring! Just impossible."

They're simply a bunch of hypocrites who refuse to acknowledge the elitist attitude of the AAP kids in regard to their Gen Ed peers.
-DP

I feel sorry for your kids, but not for the reasons you keep repeating over and over again.

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^^^ And I feel sorry for yours because you're obviously incapable of teaching them that people experience things differently. Your experience is not universal - far from it.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ And I feel sorry for yours because you're obviously incapable of teaching them that people experience things differently. Your experience is not universal - far from it.

You seem to be the poster insistent on cramming your generalizations of CRES down everyone’s throat, even when there are parents of both AAP and GenEd students who have shared positive experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ And I feel sorry for yours because you're obviously incapable of teaching them that people experience things differently. Your experience is not universal - far from it.

You seem to be the poster insistent on cramming your generalizations of CRES down everyone’s throat, even when there are parents of both AAP and GenEd students who have shared positive experiences.

Why do you assume you're talking to one poster? There are plenty of people here who have shared their thoughts and experiences re: CRES. Both positive AND negative.

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

Except for APP eligible admission tests.

Yeah, those couple of points either way really draw a firm dividing line between the groups! One group must be "brilliant" and the other "dumb," simply by virtue of a couple of points.

A line has to be drawn somewhere, even mensa does that.

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

Except for APP eligible admission tests.

Yeah, those couple of points either way really draw a firm dividing line between the groups! One group must be "brilliant" and the other "dumb," simply by virtue of a couple of points.

A line has to be drawn somewhere, even mensa does that.

Actually, a "line" doesn't have to be drawn anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax County Council PTA just emailed an online survery to parents so they can voice their concerns about their school. I urge everyone who has negative feedback about Colvin Run to complete the survery and let FCC know how parents feel about this school and what needs to change for the well-being of our kids. The negative, irresponsible way this school has handled aap level 4 has gone on for too long at Colvin Run.

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Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County Council PTA just emailed an online survery to parents so they can voice their concerns about their school. I urge everyone who has negative feedback about Colvin Run to complete the survery and let FCC know how parents feel about this school and what needs to change for the well-being of our kids. The negative, irresponsible way this school has handled aap level 4 has gone on for too long at Colvin Run.

Wow, I hope there's some data integrity. Otherwise you can only imagine how often a few people will share their negative feedback in response to the survey.

[Anonymous]

I have never have any issues with Colvin Run. I am friends with both GE and AAP families. Our kids are great friends too. Excellent and caring staff. We LOVE our school!

- a parent of four children at Colvin Run over 10 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax County Council PTA just emailed an online survery to parents so they can voice their concerns about their school. I urge everyone who has negative feedback about Colvin Run to complete the survery and let FCC know how parents feel about this school and what needs to change for the well-being of our kids. The negative, irresponsible way this school has handled aap level 4 has gone on for too long at Colvin Run.

Completely agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have never have any issues with Colvin Run. I am friends with both GE and AAP families. Our kids are great friends too. Excellent and caring staff. We LOVE our school!

- a parent of four children at Colvin Run over 10 years

+1000.

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NP. Kindergarten-1st grade at CRES is wonderful. The teachers are kind and truly care about your child. Then, you get hit with all the aap news/updates and that’s when parents start to freak out if their kid will get in or not because they make it so ambiguous and it all depends on if you got the right teacher in 2nd grade or not to give you a good evaluation. Unless of course you’re one of the Asian families, in which you’re pretty much golden for level 4. Look through any yearbook and you’ll see the obvious favoritism. Or, maybe it’s because Asians and some of the more savvy/tiger parents have learned how to work the system by enrolling in aap prep classes since kindergarten just to get in. Slim chances of getting in if you’re black or mixed unless you’re chosen as the token one. Again, see a yearbook. Profiling occurs rampantly and not just in race. Majority of kids picked are those older in their grade, therefore more mature, and those more extroverted and talkative. This school also goes strongly with cogat/NNAT scores even though they know the majority of kids with very high scores studied for the test. The truly gifted kids end up in gen ed wanting more challenge but not getting it because they weren’t deemed worthy by the system or they switch schools and save themselves years of frustration. A significant amount of kids leave the school after 2nd and 3rd because of not getting in aap where they know the resources or good teachers lie. They know it’s bs and they rather go to a school that treats kids and parents with respect and dignity and put all students to high level of standard, not just a few golden ones. Interesting how a school pretty much dismisses half its population and think they don’t notice. Hmm, I wonder why parent involvement drops off drastically after 2nd and there’s no real community. So, yeah, go to this school if you couldn’t care less about academic equality or your kid’s self-esteem. Good luck with that.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Kindergarten-1st grade at CRES is wonderful. The teachers are kind and truly care about your child. Then, you get hit with all the aap news/updates and that’s when parents start to freak out if their kid will get in or not because they make it so ambiguous and it all depends on if you got the right teacher in 2nd grade or not to give you a good evaluation. Unless of course you’re one of the Asian families, in which you’re pretty much golden for level 4. Look through any yearbook and you’ll see the obvious favoritism. Or, maybe it’s because Asians and some of the more savvy/tiger parents have learned how to work the system by enrolling in aap prep classes since kindergarten just to get in. Slim chances of getting in if you’re black or mixed unless you’re chosen as the token one. Again, see a yearbook. Profiling occurs rampantly and not just in race. Majority of kids picked are those older in their grade, therefore more mature, and those more extroverted and talkative. This school also goes strongly with cogat/NNAT scores even though they know the majority of kids with very high scores studied for the test. The truly gifted kids end up in gen ed wanting more challenge but not getting it because they weren’t deemed worthy by the system or they switch schools and save themselves years of frustration. A significant amount of kids leave the school after 2nd and 3rd because of not getting in aap where they know the resources or good teachers lie. They know it’s bs and they rather go to a school that treats kids and parents with respect and dignity and put all students to high level of standard, not just a few golden ones. Interesting how a school pretty much dismisses half its population and think they don’t notice. Hmm, I wonder why parent involvement drops off drastically after 2nd and there’s no real community. So, yeah, go to this school if you couldn’t care less about academic equality or your kid’s self-esteem. Good luck with that.

I've had four kids go through CRES and I agree with every word. You nailed it.

[Anonymous]

This is so different from our experience at a different center school. The demographics are dissimilar, the pressure of the school is dissimilar, the entire school atmosphere is dissimilar.

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Anonymous wrote:This is so different from our experience at a different center school. The demographics are dissimilar, the pressure of the school is dissimilar, the entire school atmosphere is dissimilar.

This is also so different from my kids' experience a CRES. All three were gen ed and we never had any issues at CRES. We love the school.