Colvin Run Elementary School

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

Except for APP eligible admission tests.

Yeah, those couple of points either way really draw a firm dividing line between the groups! One group must be "brilliant" and the other "dumb," simply by virtue of a couple of points.

In theory at least though, that isn't how FCPS is set up. Those kids typically get put in a level 3 program which often has advanced math if they are up for it and they get pullouts with the AART. Those kids actually get more money funneled to them because of the extra classes with the AART.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s nice to hear other center schools don’t have the same issues as Colvin Run, but a shame for those of us here. The atmosphere at Colvin Run is toxic, and lies with how the administration runs its aap program. The parents (and kids) are the victims of the divide the school creates by how it handles the whole aap process, appeal, and admittance. It only has 1 feeder school as opposed to other centers who have multiple. Therefore, most of the students are from the school itself. This is what causes the divide and frustrates parents. There is no way 1/3 to 1/2 of the kids are that much more advanced than the rest. Narrow the percentage down to MCPS standards or make ALL the students at the school advanced with the same opportunities, then parents wouldn’t be so upset.

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Absolutely agree. If they insist on keeping AAP, they should have the smallest % possible of students in the program - the very highest achievers. Not this enormous program that divides the entire student body between kids of identical abilities. It's ridiculous.

Would not allowing Great Falls to come over help? That's been discussed for years.

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NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

Maybe so, but the grass isn't always greener. We live near to Colvin Run and have attended meetings and summer camps there. The work the kids produce on the walls and the programs I read at the school sound wonderful. The divide doesn't sound like a good situation, but the kids and teachers generally seem to be doing a good job. And this divide kind of baffles me because I see a lot of positivity project/character building writing and projects on the walls over there.

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Ha! You don’t go to Colvin Run so the grass seems greener to you! This school does a great job masking the reality to new/potential parents. Your comments are useless since you don’t even go here. Troll

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Anonymous wrote:Ha! You don’t go to Colvin Run so the grass seems greener to you! This school does a great job masking the reality to new/potential parents. Your comments are useless since you don’t even go here. Troll

That's not what "troll" means.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

Maybe so, but the grass isn't always greener. We live near to Colvin Run and have attended meetings and summer camps there. The work the kids produce on the walls and the programs I read at the school sound wonderful. The divide doesn't sound like a good situation, but the kids and teachers generally seem to be doing a good job. And this divide kind of baffles me because I see a lot of positivity project/character building writing and projects on the walls over there.

There are one or two posters who sock puppet about this school. They don't even care that their posts all sound the same, because they are filled with so much venom that they actually enjoy repeating themselves ad nauseum.

I'm sure the school isn't perfect; no school is. But these posters make me think that teachers and administrators at Colvin Run and other schools in the Langley pyramid deserve extra pay to put up with the parents.

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It seem like a lot more than just couple of parents upset! They all look like valid concerns.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

Maybe so, but the grass isn't always greener. We live near to Colvin Run and have attended meetings and summer camps there. The work the kids produce on the walls and the programs I read at the school sound wonderful. The divide doesn't sound like a good situation, but the kids and teachers generally seem to be doing a good job. And this divide kind of baffles me because I see a lot of positivity project/character building writing and projects on the walls over there.

I'm one of the PPs with a gen ed kids at CRES who actually enjoys the school. Most of my child's friends are in AAP and we have yet to hear any bad comments from students, and we have never felt like the principal is not supportive. But I guess people have different experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:I have also had major problems at this school and regret bringing my kids here. Definitely something wrong with the administration, the principal especially. Just wanted to chime in because of the other posters that thinks anyone that is complaining is a troll. For those people I say, I’m glad you have had a good experience but you better believe that others have not. The problems at this school are very real and I’m glad people are talking about it. Junge needs to realize that parents opinions matter and that he should take them seriously instead of talking down to them in a condescending manner.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s nice to hear other center schools don’t have the same issues as Colvin Run, but a shame for those of us here. The atmosphere at Colvin Run is toxic, and lies with how the administration runs its aap program. The parents (and kids) are the victims of the divide the school creates by how it handles the whole aap process, appeal, and admittance. It only has 1 feeder school as opposed to other centers who have multiple. Therefore, most of the students are from the school itself. This is what causes the divide and frustrates parents. There is no way 1/3 to 1/2 of the kids are that much more advanced than the rest. Narrow the percentage down to MCPS standards or make ALL the students at the school advanced with the same opportunities, then parents wouldn’t be so upset.

Broken record..,

There's a reason this has been brought up multiple times. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist. Far from it.

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Anonymous wrote:What kid asks another kid if they are dumb? My kids learned from age 4 that if you have nothing nice to say, you don't say it. They don't always follow when they are mad, but they would know better by 2nd grade to never say anything like this without being provoked. Maybe Colvin Run needs so much character development because the parents aren't teaching good behavior.

There is nothing unique about the AAP program at CRES. The only difference is that parents in the Langley pyramid react very negatively whenever they or their kids aren’t always labeled “the best.”

Being in "the Langley pyramid" has zero to do with how a child reacts to being told s/he is "dumb" by another child who is no smarter in any measurable way. You're right that there is nothing unique about CRES's AAP program. There are snotty kids all over FCPS who feel the need to tell non-AAP kids they're "dumb." I imagine your child is one of them.

Except for APP eligible admission tests.

Yeah, those couple of points either way really draw a firm dividing line between the groups! One group must be "brilliant" and the other "dumb," simply by virtue of a couple of points.

In theory at least though, that isn't how FCPS is set up. Those kids typically get put in a level 3 program which often has advanced math if they are up for it and they get pullouts with the AART. Those kids actually get more money funneled to them because of the extra classes with the AART.

Everyone is well aware that the "pull-out" programs are a joke. It's just a label. My kids got pull outs with the AART and it was such a waste of time; they were then expected to make up the class work that they had missed while receiving "enrichment." Please.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s nice to hear other center schools don’t have the same issues as Colvin Run, but a shame for those of us here. The atmosphere at Colvin Run is toxic, and lies with how the administration runs its aap program. The parents (and kids) are the victims of the divide the school creates by how it handles the whole aap process, appeal, and admittance. It only has 1 feeder school as opposed to other centers who have multiple. Therefore, most of the students are from the school itself. This is what causes the divide and frustrates parents. There is no way 1/3 to 1/2 of the kids are that much more advanced than the rest. Narrow the percentage down to MCPS standards or make ALL the students at the school advanced with the same opportunities, then parents wouldn’t be so upset.

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Absolutely agree. If they insist on keeping AAP, they should have the smallest % possible of students in the program - the very highest achievers. Not this enormous program that divides the entire student body between kids of identical abilities. It's ridiculous.

Would not allowing Great Falls to come over help? That's been discussed for years.

I believe they already are allowed to choose CRES if they're in AAP. Which, as another poster pointed out, shouldn't be allowed. Frankly, if Gen Ed kids can't choose the school they'd like to attend, then AAP kids shouldn't be able to either. The whole system smacks of inequity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Wow, can’t believe the truth about Colvin Run is finally out there. I have multiple kids at the school and everything people are saying about the school and administration is 100% on point. Junge couldn’t care less about the kids. All he cares about is his numbers and ratings. He purposely creates the large division. He is the most fake person you will ever meet, second is Ms. Grabel the new aart who conveniently left on maternity leave after 1 year. Hopefully, she won’t return. She’s a joke and knows nothing about advanced learning/academics. She just reads out of the manuel. If you ask her a questions she’ll say “That’s hard to say.” For every question!! She will never give you a direct answer...probably because she doesn’t know what she’s doing. So, even if your kid is being pulled out for level 3 aap they’re not going to get much out of it. Like others said, only go to this school if you’re kid is already in aap level 4. Otherwise, you’ll be miserable.

so, but the grass isn't always greener. We live near to Colvin Run and have attended meetings and summer camps there. The work the kids produce on the walls and the programs I read at the school sound wonderful. The divide doesn't sound like a good situation, but the kids and teachers generally seem to be doing a good job. And this divide kind of baffles me because I see a lot of positivity project/character building writing and projects on the walls over there.

Yes, the whole "character building" BS seems to be a way for the administration to say, "See? We're telling all the children to be nice to each other, to have compassion, respect, blah blah blah for one another. So it's impossible that anything negative could be occurring! Just impossible."

They're simply a bunch of hypocrites who refuse to acknowledge the elitist attitude of the AAP kids in regard to their Gen Ed peers.
-DP

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Anonymous wrote:It seem like a lot more than just couple of parents upset! They all look like valid concerns.

There are far more than just a couple of parents. And all of the concerns are valid.
-A parent of four CRES students over the past ten years.