Correlation between SCAT and SAT results for 7th grader

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Anonymous wrote:People prep for CTY?
The only thing it offers is a chance at ridiculously overpriced camps.

Colleges view those favorably though. Much more than Disney and .. um... downtime.

Colleges don't really care what you do with your summers before 9th grade.

TJ might, as well as selective private high schools. Admittance to which, in turn, will enhance your chance of admission to the better colleges.

Does everything have to come back to TJ?

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Anonymous wrote:No, colleges do not view CTY any more favorably than any other program that parents pay a lot of money for. If you want to do it for your child to have a fun experience, by all means, do it, but don't do it because you think it will be a good item on a college, or TJ, application.

better than Disney and laying around .. um.. I mean downtime.

And it's not CTY you put on the app. or essay. It's the class itself, i.e., epidemiology, Shakespeare, Model U.N. etc. and what you learned therefrom.

Every April, there are many, many families out there who can't understand why their HS senior did not get into their college of choice even though the student had spent every summer attending expensive programs such as CTY, TIP, and camps sponsored by the colleges themselves. Sure, they are a fun learning experience for those who choose to pay the tuition, but they don't in any appreciable way increase an applicant's chance of acceptance. The colleges see these all the time.

This might be a surprise to parents who have not yet negotiated the college application process with their children, but one of the most impressive extracurriculars on an application is a paying job. Spending the summer lifeguarding, mowing lawns, or working at the local amusement park shows responsibility and initiative on the part of the young person, qualities that can really set a student apart.

[Anonymous]

OP here. My 7th grade DC did NOT prep for the SCAT, and it was no problem.

S/he scored in 97th%ile in both the verbal and math/quantitative sections of the exam, thus re-qualifying for the JHU-CTY summer programs. We chose not to have DC participate in this summer's programs.

My 7th grade DC then took the SAT. Again, DC did not prepare in any way, not even a practice exam. This time DC did not do as well, scoring only a 1950 total on the exam.

As a result, I am having my other DC, a rising 11th grader, take an SAT prep course this summer -- though this DC also performs well on standardized exams.

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Anonymous wrote:No, colleges do not view CTY any more favorably than any other program that parents pay a lot of money for. If you want to do it for your child to have a fun experience, by all means, do it, but don't do it because you think it will be a good item on a college, or TJ, application.

better than Disney and laying around .. um.. I mean downtime.

And it's not CTY you put on the app. or essay. It's the class itself, i.e., epidemiology, Shakespeare, Model U.N. etc. and what you learned therefrom.

Every April, there are many, many families out there who can't understand why their HS senior did not get into their college of choice even though the student had spent every summer attending expensive programs such as CTY, TIP, and camps sponsored by the colleges themselves. Sure, they are a fun learning experience for those who choose to pay the tuition, but they don't in any appreciable way increase an applicant's chance of acceptance. The colleges see these all the time.

This might be a surprise to parents who have not yet negotiated the college application process with their children, but one of the most impressive extracurriculars on an application is a paying job. Spending the summer lifeguarding, mowing lawns, or working at the local amusement park shows responsibility and initiative on the part of the young person, qualities that can really set a student apart.

well of course attending CTY or TIP, alone, isn't going to get anyone into the college of their choice.
But if you're taking their courses it should aid in one's academic development and is better than Disney or "downtime."
Of course if you can't afford it, it's rather a moot point isn't it? No shame in that.

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I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

It adds that the talent searches act as the earliest stamps of achievement for middle schoolers and opens a door to a lot of other opportunities.

But go ahead and listen to 11:24 above who seems to think he/she nows what he/she is talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

It adds that the talent searches act as the earliest stamps of achievement for middle schoolers and opens a door to a lot of other opportunities.

But go ahead and listen to 11:24 above who seems to think he/she nows what he/she is talking about.

knows

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Anonymous wrote:I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

It adds that the talent searches act as the earliest stamps of achievement for middle schoolers and opens a door to a lot of other opportunities.

But go ahead and listen to 11:24 above who seems to think he/she nows what he/she is talking about.

I'm guessing the HS student that posted this hasn't left for his/her CTY experience this summer just yet.
No grown adult would believe a book over real-world experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

It adds that the talent searches act as the earliest stamps of achievement for middle schoolers and opens a door to a lot of other opportunities.

But go ahead and listen to 11:24 above who seems to think he/she nows what he/she is talking about.

I'm guessing the HS student that posted this hasn't left for his/her CTY experience this summer just yet.
No grown adult would believe a book over real-world experience.

? I would. I had no problem sailing into college 30 years ago, but it is much more competititve today. I have read numerous books on this including Crazy U, as well as College Confidential and other sites.

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College Confidential actually has a lot of good information on this topic from people with real world experience. That is one place that includes the information that, while CTY-type programs are a fun learning experience, especially for kids who don't have the opportunity to be around other bright kids, they will not tip the balance to acceptance for a kid thats on the edge. Lots of experienced parents and admissions deans post there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:hi,my daughter will be taking SCAT next year,have heard of online tutoring portals for test preparations,can anyone recommend any good portal for the same.

www.top-grader.com. Someone else also mentioned them in the threads for test preparation (SCAT, SAT ...)

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Anonymous wrote:I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

I probably wouldn't put much stock in the advice of a book that misspelled "camaraderie."

That said, I did go both to TIP and to one of the "country's top colleges" - where I majored in English, but learned enough statistics to know that my anecdotal experience isn't truly significant. The camaraderie was excellent at both places.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got this book on getting into college. In the chapter on "talent searches"it says "participation in any of these programs (including CTY or Duke's TIP) represents an impressive starting credential for most of the country's top colleges."

Then, of the programs themselves, the book says they are known for their "rigor" and "the comraderie of the serious students they attract."

I probably wouldn't put much stock in the advice of a book that misspelled "camaraderie."

That said, I did go both to TIP and to one of the "country's top colleges" - where I majored in English, but learned enough statistics to know that my anecdotal experience isn't truly significant. The camaraderie was excellent at both places.

That was my mispelling, not the book's. I will have to be more careful from now on. I thought it was an accurate statement.

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What is a DC?

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Anonymous wrote:What is a DC?

Dear Child

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 7th grade DC then took the SAT. Again, DC did not prepare in any way, not even a practice exam. This time DC did not do as well, scoring only a 1950 total on the exam.

Boo-hoo. Are you sad that you don't get to attend the Grand Ceremony?
These ceremonies are the most ridiculous thing about CTY.