Correlation between SCAT and SAT results for 7th grader

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the kids are SCAT and SAT prepped.

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Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Why is a 12 or 13 year old taking the SAT at all?

For CTY

PP is correct. The testing is being done for a GT program purposes. I posted on this forum because in my experience, Fairfax County public school parents are some of the most educated and involved when it comes to their children's educations, and I thought that I would be most likely to receive an informative response on their forum.

Then why did you post on the private school forum first?

Because my DC currently attends private school, but DC would like to attend TJ because that is where her/his interests lie.

you are on the right track. Personally I'd go with the ACT though because it is a shorter exam, and I think a little fairer as well - but that is a different thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Why is a 12 or 13 year old taking the SAT at all?

My DS took the SAT at Johns Hopkins' request. They paid for test prep and the SAT.

[Anonymous]

DUKE, Northwestern and JHU accept either scores for their middle school talent search programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the kids are SCAT and SAT prepped.

OP here. My DC has never been test prepped. My feeling has always been that we want to know DC's "natural" abilities. DC reads voraciously, is a stellar student, and we have always been told by the teachers that s/he needs to seek more studies and intellectual advancement outside of school. We try to fill this need through online courses and summer camps.

Because he was not prepared for standardized testing, DC's 7th grade performance on the SCAT (12th grade norm) came as a pleasant accomplishment, though not necessarily a surprise -- given that we live with him.

[Anonymous]

My DC has never been test prepped. My feeling has always been that we want to know DC's "natural" abilities. DC reads voraciously, is a stellar student, and we have always been told by the teachers that s/he needs to seek more studies and intellectual advancement outside of school. We try to fill this need through online courses and summer camps.

Because he was not prepared for standardized testing, DC's 7th grade performance on the SCAT (12th grade norm) came as a pleasant accomplishment, though not necessarily a surprise -- given that we live with him.

For how many years and how many times has your son taken the SCAT exam?

Is your son familiar with analogies? Do you have analogy work books in your house? Did he practice analogies before taking the SCAT?

[Anonymous]

OP here. My DC has never been test prepped. My feeling has always been that we want to know DC's "natural" abilities. DC reads voraciously, is a stellar student, and we have always been told by the teachers that s/he needs to seek more studies and intellectual advancement outside of school. We try to fill this need through online courses and summer camps.

Because he was not prepared for standardized testing, DC's 7th grade performance on the SCAT (12th grade norm) came as a pleasant accomplishment, though not necessarily a surprise -- given that we live with him.

My definition of test prep will include these enrichment activities even if you prefer a more restricted definition: practicing with the exact form of the test with answers repeatedly.

[Anonymous]

For how many years and how many times has your son taken the SCAT exam?

Is your son familiar with analogies? Do you have analogy work books in your house? Did he practice analogies before taking the SCAT?

I, too, am interested in OP answers here.

[Anonymous]

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My DC has never been test prepped. My feeling has always been that we want to know DC's "natural" abilities. DC reads voraciously, is a stellar student, and we have always been told by the teachers that s/he needs to seek more studies and intellectual advancement outside of school. We try to fill this need through online courses and summer camps.

Because he was not prepared for standardized testing, DC's 7th grade performance on the SCAT (12th grade norm) came as a pleasant accomplishment, though not necessarily a surprise -- given that we live with him.

For how many years and how many times has your son taken the SCAT exam?

Is your son familiar with analogies? Do you have analogy work books in your house? Did he practice analogies before taking the SCAT?

I do not have analogy books or test books, only the kind of books that you read -- and I have rooms and rooms of those. In any case, the verbal and quantitative abilities are equally strong. DC did not practice anything before the SCAT exam. Has taken the SCAT once before, to test into a GT program for the lower grades.

Is this an interrogation? Seriouslu, I do not mind answering your nice questions, but I hope that this is leading to pertinent information regarding my OP question. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

When there is abrupt and deadening silence you know you have just looked under the hood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When there is abrupt and deadening silence you know you have just looked under the hood.

What does this mean?

[Anonymous]

I do not have analogy books or test books, only the kind of books that you read -- and I have rooms and rooms of those. In any case, the verbal and quantitative abilities are equally strong. DC did not practice anything before the SCAT exam. Has taken the SCAT once before, to test into a GT program for the lower grades.

Is this an interrogation? Seriouslu, I do not mind answering your nice questions, but I hope that this is leading to pertinent information regarding my OP question. Thank you.

There is no correlation between SCAT and SAT scores. Different exams with different strategies ... the latter penalizes for the wrong answer and the former does not. Therefore, guessing is more strategic. Longer exam (SAT). 1/2 hour writing component (SAT). SAT (math) doesn't use the > or < or = answer format as SCAT. That said, kids that read and are studious and work hard year round in time will usually do well on both exams.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I must be missing something. Why is a 12 or 13 year old taking the SAT at all?

My DS took the SAT at Johns Hopkins' request. They paid for test prep and the SAT.

OP here, that was not done for us, you are lucky! If your DC took the SCAT (12th grade norm) as well around the same time as the SAT, did the percentiles correlate across exams? Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think kids intially found eligible for CTY may be a dime a dozen (although that is an exaggeration), but the number who actually participate in the program by taking courses is much smaller.

That's because their prices are absolutely ridiculous and their course offerings never change from year to year.

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I do not have analogy books or test books, only the kind of books that you read -- and I have rooms and rooms of those. In any case, the verbal and quantitative abilities are equally strong. DC did not practice anything before the SCAT exam. Has taken the SCAT once before, to test into a GT program for the lower grades.

Is this an interrogation? Seriouslu, I do not mind answering your nice questions, but I hope that this is leading to pertinent information regarding my OP question. Thank you.

There is no correlation between SCAT and SAT scores. Different exams with different strategies ... the latter penalizes for the wrong answer and the former does not. Therefore, guessing is more strategic. Longer exam (SAT). 1/2 hour writing component (SAT). SAT (math) doesn't use the > or < or = answer format as SCAT. That said, kids that read and are studious and work hard year round in time will usually do well on both exams.

OP here again, I did not realize that the SCAT uses the format you mentioned in their test for older children. I will have to ask DC for more details about the exam.