Fairfax State of the Union - Tysons and Mosiac Redevelopment are the FUTURE Video

[Anonymous]

If you are in arlington and you tout it being walk-able. When you need a new toilet do you walk home from homedepot with a toilet on your back?

Do you buy groceries in small batches?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

Three categories of workers you listed (feds, lawyers, lobbyists) are quite numerous and very solvent, so they alone could very well sustain DC as a job center. Add World Bankers, embassies, brand non-profits and you have quite an employment center.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

Three categories of workers you listed (feds, lawyers, lobbyists) are quite numerous and very solvent, so they alone could very well sustain DC as a job center. Add World Bankers, embassies, brand non-profits and you have quite an employment center.

Almost all of the Intelligence community is located in mclean/tysons in multiple buildings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

Three categories of workers you listed (feds, lawyers, lobbyists) are quite numerous and very solvent, so they alone could very well sustain DC as a job center. Add World Bankers, embassies, brand non-profits and you have quite an employment center.

I hate to burst your brain, but there is this whole world out there outside of politics/feds/diplomatic relations, lawyers, and the world bank. Like, most of educated society. As for non-profits, tons of those are in Alexandria.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

Three categories of workers you listed (feds, lawyers, lobbyists) are quite numerous and very solvent, so they alone could very well sustain DC as a job center. Add World Bankers, embassies, brand non-profits and you have quite an employment center.

I hate to burst your brain, but there is this whole world out there outside of politics/feds/diplomatic relations, lawyers, and the world bank. Like, most of educated society. As for non-profits, tons of those are in Alexandria.

I don't quite understand the hostility in your response. I didn't question your statement that many professional jobs are based outside of DC, or dump on Tysons/Herndon/etc, just pointed out that the exception groups you listed are quite numerous, taken alone. What's with the brain-busting remark?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just because we think the Tysons boosters are delusional doesn't mean Arlington feels threatened. Hate to burst your bubble, but you are just not that important to us.

That's undermined, I'm afraid, by your obsessive commenting on these threads, when you could be out enjoying one of your six craptastic "urban villages."

And please spare us the mock condescension. No one in Arlington outside of the Pentagon is a player.

Aw, you have made the common mistake of thinking that there is only one person who is commenting. I would hardly call comment a total of three times "obsessive."

Why attack me? Or Arlington? If you truly believe that Tysons is going to be even better than Arlington, why the need to put others down? I haven't put Tysons down at all by suggesting moderating your shrillness about how Tysons is the only place that will matter in the future. Why do you think it detracts from Arlington if Tysons is successful? We in Arlington don't - we merely point out to you that it won't spell the end of Arlington if Tysons develops into a more walkable area with its own - what was your charming phrase? ah, yes - "craptastic 'urban villages.'" You really do need to get over your inferiority complex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I live right on the border of McLean and Arlington so should probably be happy about the Tysons development but I just don't see the appeal. I do wonder if their timing is horribly off with government contracting tanking. Kind of like how it was a wasteland after the dot com bust. We'll see.

Tysons was a "wasteland" in the early 2000s? What planet were you living on?

NP here. I've worked out in Tysons a few times over the last 20 years. I'm not out there now, but yes, 10 years ago there was A LOT of vacant office space. Not quite wasteland, but a little eery.

The whole Tysons area should be blown away so they can start fresh. Not sure if they will ever recover from the poor planning, if there ever was any planning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I live right on the border of McLean and Arlington so should probably be happy about the Tysons development but I just don't see the appeal. I do wonder if their timing is horribly off with government contracting tanking. Kind of like how it was a wasteland after the dot com bust. We'll see.

Tysons was a "wasteland" in the early 2000s? What planet were you living on?

NP here. I've worked out in Tysons a few times over the last 20 years. I'm not out there now, but yes, 10 years ago there was A LOT of vacant office space. Not quite wasteland, but a little eery.

The whole Tysons area should be blown away so they can start fresh. Not sure if they will ever recover from the poor planning, if there ever was any planning.

Seriously. The Lerners, the Hazels, and Jerry Halpin have a lot to answer for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just because we think the Tysons boosters are delusional doesn't mean Arlington feels threatened. Hate to burst your bubble, but you are just not that important to us.

That's undermined, I'm afraid, by your obsessive commenting on these threads, when you could be out enjoying one of your six craptastic "urban villages."

And please spare us the mock condescension. No one in Arlington outside of the Pentagon is a player.

Aw, you have made the common mistake of thinking that there is only one person who is commenting. I would hardly call comment a total of three times "obsessive."

Why attack me? Or Arlington? If you truly believe that Tysons is going to be even better than Arlington, why the need to put others down? I haven't put Tysons down at all by suggesting moderating your shrillness about how Tysons is the only place that will matter in the future. Why do you think it detracts from Arlington if Tysons is successful? We in Arlington don't - we merely point out to you that it won't spell the end of Arlington if Tysons develops into a more walkable area with its own - what was your charming phrase? ah, yes - "craptastic 'urban villages.'" You really do need to get over your inferiority complex.

"We in Arlington..." From now on, "we in Tysons" will know to address Arlington residents through their self-appointed spokesman.

Really, you're a frickin' joke. Tysons is going to compete with Arlington on multiple levels. For all the blather over Clarendon, places like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Court House and Ballston are incredibly generic and have very little to anchor either businesses or residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are in arlington and you tout it being walk-able. When you need a new toilet do you walk home from homedepot with a toilet on your back?

Do you buy groceries in small batches?

We just use one of the many portable potties outside all the construction sites in the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are in arlington and you tout it being walk-able. When you need a new toilet do you walk home from homedepot with a toilet on your back?

Do you buy groceries in small batches?

We just use one of the many portable potties outside all the construction sites in the neighborhood.

Really? You should do what I do---I crap in my all-organic vegetable garden. It is great fertilizer. Organic too!

P.s. how often is one buying a frickin toilet? That is a once a decade or more car trip

And there are no stores in Arlington ?? Wtf-- no Costco, no targets, no grocery stores, toysrus, retail. Some of the posters in each camp truly baffle me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

Three categories of workers you listed (feds, lawyers, lobbyists) are quite numerous and very solvent, so they alone could very well sustain DC as a job center. Add World Bankers, embassies, brand non-profits and you have quite an employment center.

Almost all of the Intelligence community is located in mclean/tysons in multiple buildings

You forgot the secret compound in Springfield (drones). The homeland in Kingstowne. Want me to keep going?

[Anonymous]

In 10 years , "Arlington? That part of the metro between tysons and dc? I heard it was new and shiny back in the day."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are in arlington and you tout it being walk-able. When you need a new toilet do you walk home from homedepot with a toilet on your back?

Do you buy groceries in small batches?

We just use one of the many portable potties outside all the construction sites in the neighborhood.

Really? You should do what I do---I crap in my all-organic vegetable garden. It is great fertilizer. Organic too!

P.s. how often is one buying a frickin toilet? That is a once a decade or more car trip

And there are no stores in Arlington ?? Wtf-- no Costco, no targets, no grocery stores, toysrus, retail. Some of the posters in each camp truly baffle me.

Costco is certainly not a walkable destination for anyone who doesn't live in high-rises around its site. And a typical amount of loot from a Costco trip certainly cannot be lugged home by hand. A neighborhood bakery it ain't. That's doubly true for Toys R Us - in fact, the siting of TRU is in every sense similar to retail along Rt 7 near Tysons. The same goes for Target on Rt 50 and Rt 7. You do need a car to use most retail you listed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 10 years , "Arlington? That part of the metro between tysons and dc? I heard it was new and shiny back in the day."[/quot

Why the hate for Arlington? I actually think the Tysons development will help Arlington. I live closer to Tysons Corner than most people in Fairfax County and if the development is what you say I will be thrilled to live between Tysons and DC with quick access to them since both are places where I or someone buying my house may want to work.