Fairfax State of the Union - Tysons and Mosiac Redevelopment are the FUTURE Video

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Whoever said Tysons is the only place to shop and there is nothing in DC, this is BS. I used to live in West End and never had any reason to go to Tysons. I did most of my shopping in Gtown, there was never any lack of stores from clothes to furniture to gourmet foods to makeup/skincare. If I really needed something specific that could only be found in a conventional mall, I'd take a metro to Pentagon or Friendship heights, easy. What about people living in MD, do you think they will drive to Tysons? Do you think people living in Mclean and Arlington drive all the way to Reston, just because it's a nice outdoor shopping mall? No, people will go wherever it's the closest and most convenient. Of course Tysons will boom because it is already crowded as is and it serves a lot of nearby suburbs. But, it's not like people living in Bethesda would consider it a destination and would go there on regular basis, or someone living near Gtown, all of a sudden will get into their car to drive to Tysons to run their errands.

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Anonymous wrote:Tysons, and more importantly greater Fairfax County, is already taking over DC proper. Yeah, we'll always have Smithsonians and the White House in DC, but companies, agencies, and the following economy are already migrating to Fairfax.
It will take some years, but DC will eventually be seen as Richmond is today. Richmond used to be the center of the action too.

You are forgetting that DC is changing too, just like there are a lot of people interested in living around Tysons and in Fairfax, etc, there are still tons of people who want to live in DC, hence all the new development and gentrification happening all over. There are also lots of people raising their kids in NWDC and some who are now braving the more urban parts. There people also who can afford and actually want private schools, which are located mostly in NWDC and this is where it makes sense for them to live. Tysons will never take over DC, it will grow and this growth will be welcome by all the people living in the nearby suburbs, but so will DC in its own way.

DC government is a joke and only listens to the non gentrifying constituents who won't move out and are propped up by the gentrifyer's taxes. Until that changes DC won't be as desirable for families.

Some parts of DC are already desirable for families, hence the overcrowded schools.

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I don't have a dog in this fight, I am fine either way, I live in Mclean. We will never be a destination, but I have a choice between Tysons, Georgetown, Arlington shopping if I want to. 5-10 min door to door to most parking lots in Tysons and 10-15 min to Georgetown, I am loving it. Let Tysons grow, let DC grow, it can't be bad for my RE appreciation. If Tysons gets really nice and pedestrian friendly, maybe I'll let my kids take a bus there when they get older

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a dog in this fight, I am fine either way, I live in Mclean. We will never be a destination, but I have a choice between Tysons, Georgetown, Arlington shopping if I want to. 5-10 min door to door to most parking lots in Tysons and 10-15 min to Georgetown, I am loving it. Let Tysons grow, let DC grow, it can't be bad for my RE appreciation. If Tysons gets really nice and pedestrian friendly, maybe I'll let my kids take a bus there when they get older

I live in Clarendon and shop in Georgetown. It's much, much closer and I hate 66 and that whole Tyson's area, parking mall. Etc.

If I need something at a mall--Pentagon City is a quick trip for Nordstroms, DSW in the Row, etc.. frankly, I'm so damn busy that I rarel shop anywhere, but online anymore.

I haven't been to Tyson's since I worked up Route 7 when I was 25...ages ago.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a dog in this fight, I am fine either way, I live in Mclean. We will never be a destination, but I have a choice between Tysons, Georgetown, Arlington shopping if I want to. 5-10 min door to door to most parking lots in Tysons and 10-15 min to Georgetown, I am loving it. Let Tysons grow, let DC grow, it can't be bad for my RE appreciation. If Tysons gets really nice and pedestrian friendly, maybe I'll let my kids take a bus there when they get older

I live in Clarendon and shop in Georgetown. It's much, much closer and I hate 66 and that whole Tyson's area, parking mall. Etc.

If I need something at a mall--Pentagon City is a quick trip for Nordstroms, DSW in the Row, etc.. frankly, I'm so damn busy that I rarel shop anywhere, but online anymore.

I haven't been to Tyson's since I worked up Route 7 when I was 25...ages ago.

Um, aren't you special?

Wait until you get laid off and your new job is in....wait for it....Tysons!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a dog in this fight, I am fine either way, I live in Mclean. We will never be a destination, but I have a choice between Tysons, Georgetown, Arlington shopping if I want to. 5-10 min door to door to most parking lots in Tysons and 10-15 min to Georgetown, I am loving it. Let Tysons grow, let DC grow, it can't be bad for my RE appreciation. If Tysons gets really nice and pedestrian friendly, maybe I'll let my kids take a bus there when they get older

I live in Clarendon and shop in Georgetown. It's much, much closer and I hate 66 and that whole Tyson's area, parking mall. Etc.

If I need something at a mall--Pentagon City is a quick trip for Nordstroms, DSW in the Row, etc.. frankly, I'm so damn busy that I rarel shop anywhere, but online anymore.

I haven't been to Tyson's since I worked up Route 7 when I was 25...ages ago.

Um, aren't you special?

Wait until you get laid off and your new job is in....wait for it....Tysons!

I am not the PP, but isn't the drive from Clarendon to Tysons pretty short anyway? Plus, she can take the Metro to work, either way, she can't lose.

[Anonymous]

This new development helps people living in Arlington by giving us more options. We have quick access to DC, Arlington, and whatever this new Tysons will be for jobs, shopping, etc. I'm a lawyer and my husband works in technology so Arlington is perfectly situated in between DC where I have to go and Tysons where he sometimes has to go. We couldn't be happier so bring on the new development crazy Arlington basher/ Tysons booster!

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Nope. You are still wrong and starting to look stupid. Washington DC is not moving over to Fairfax County. Most people want to live near the city. Location, location, location. There is no competition. And obviously I am not the "self-appointed spokesman" (although it's okay if you are? Hypocrite. It's a forum, for God's sake). However, I can assure you that I have not heard one single neighbor expressing any concern about Tysons. We.don't.care.

You must not be talking to many Washingtonians. My family has been here for almost 100 years, and the most desirable places to live if you have a family are all not in DC with the exception of part of CC. DC would never even make my list no matter how much $$$ I had (I wouldn't even consider CC). Anyway, here is the list:

1) Potomac, Bethesda, Chevy Chase, or leave MoCo and go to Fairfax County
2) Loudoun County
3) Arlington or Alexandria
4) Howard County or Urbana (in Frederick)

I am a native Washingtonian, too. The only people I know who have moved to Loudoun are those who travel weekly from Dulles. Otherwise, it is Bethesda, Arlington, Alexandria or the City itself.

Right forget chevy chase , potomac , mclean , great falls

Please note that I was referring to native Washingtonians (or its immediate vicinity) that I personally know. I was not trying to provide an exhaustive list - just listing where my personal friends have landed.

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Nah. There is no SanFRan east or Manhattan south, etc. the cities always stay the hub. As much as Arlington has transformed, it still isn't DC. Is the Smithsonian and White House relocating to Tyson's city?

My family has been here for generations. And I do not know 1 single person with a job downtown ("the district" or "in DC" for all you migrant peoples) except 1) fed government employees, 2) lobbyists, and 3) lawyers. All other professional jobs are almost entirely NOT in DC.

Everybody else I know with a job in the entire DC area either works in Tysons Corner, Herndon/Reston, the 270 corridor (health care), and I know 1 single person with a job in Arlington. And I am from Takoma Park btw.

My family has been in this area since the 1800s. Now that my cred is established, I can say with confidence that DC and downtown is still a magnet for the creative professions, which include those who work in the technology, marketing, advertising, architecture, planning, engineering, and graphic design professions. It's not all lobbyists and lawyers. And what about those who work in policy or international diplomacy NGOs? They work in the city too.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever said Tysons is the only place to shop and there is nothing in DC, this is BS. I used to live in West End and never had any reason to go to Tysons. I did most of my shopping in Gtown, there was never any lack of stores from clothes to furniture to gourmet foods to makeup/skincare. If I really needed something specific that could only be found in a conventional mall, I'd take a metro to Pentagon or Friendship heights, easy. What about people living in MD, do you think they will drive to Tysons? Do you think people living in Mclean and Arlington drive all the way to Reston, just because it's a nice outdoor shopping mall? No, people will go wherever it's the closest and most convenient. Of course Tysons will boom because it is already crowded as is and it serves a lot of nearby suburbs. But, it's not like people living in Bethesda would consider it a destination and would go there on regular basis, or someone living near Gtown, all of a sudden will get into their car to drive to Tysons to run their errands.

The Tysons parking lots always are full of cars with DC and Maryland plates. People aren't buying milk there, but going to the region's best shopping malls with the widest selection of retailers. That might not have been the case when there were more malls that were more or less the same, but there are just a handful of really vibrant enclosed malls here now, and Tysons is the best known.

I personally find malls claustrophobic, and don't frequent Tysons that often, but when I do go there I notice that the crowds are far more diverse than anything you'd come across in DC or Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because we think the Tysons boosters are delusional doesn't mean Arlington feels threatened. Hate to burst your bubble, but you are just not that important to us.

That's undermined, I'm afraid, by your obsessive commenting on these threads, when you could be out enjoying one of your six craptastic "urban villages."

And please spare us the mock condescension. No one in Arlington outside of the Pentagon is a player.

Aw, you have made the common mistake of thinking that there is only one person who is commenting. I would hardly call comment a total of three times "obsessive."

Why attack me? Or Arlington? If you truly believe that Tysons is going to be even better than Arlington, why the need to put others down? I haven't put Tysons down at all by suggesting moderating your shrillness about how Tysons is the only place that will matter in the future. Why do you think it detracts from Arlington if Tysons is successful? We in Arlington don't - we merely point out to you that it won't spell the end of Arlington if Tysons develops into a more walkable area with its own - what was your charming phrase? ah, yes - "craptastic 'urban villages.'" You really do need to get over your inferiority complex.

"We in Arlington..." From now on, "we in Tysons" will know to address Arlington residents through their self-appointed spokesman.

Really, you're a frickin' joke. Tysons is going to compete with Arlington on multiple levels. For all the blather over Clarendon, places like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Court House and Ballston are incredibly generic and have very little to anchor either businesses or residents.

Nope. You are still wrong and starting to look stupid. Washington DC is not moving over to Fairfax County. Most people want to live near the city. Location, location, location. There is no competition. And obviously I am not the "self-appointed spokesman" (although it's okay if you are? Hypocrite. It's a forum, for God's sake). However, I can assure you that I have not heard one single neighbor expressing any concern about Tysons. We.don't.care.

And you say Arlington is generic? Pot, have you melt kettle yet?

Arlington was a POS a few years ago and that's what it's going to be again.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because we think the Tysons boosters are delusional doesn't mean Arlington feels threatened. Hate to burst your bubble, but you are just not that important to us.

That's undermined, I'm afraid, by your obsessive commenting on these threads, when you could be out enjoying one of your six craptastic "urban villages."

And please spare us the mock condescension. No one in Arlington outside of the Pentagon is a player.

Aw, you have made the common mistake of thinking that there is only one person who is commenting. I would hardly call comment a total of three times "obsessive."

Why attack me? Or Arlington? If you truly believe that Tysons is going to be even better than Arlington, why the need to put others down? I haven't put Tysons down at all by suggesting moderating your shrillness about how Tysons is the only place that will matter in the future. Why do you think it detracts from Arlington if Tysons is successful? We in Arlington don't - we merely point out to you that it won't spell the end of Arlington if Tysons develops into a more walkable area with its own - what was your charming phrase? ah, yes - "craptastic 'urban villages.'" You really do need to get over your inferiority complex.

"We in Arlington..." From now on, "we in Tysons" will know to address Arlington residents through their self-appointed spokesman.

Really, you're a frickin' joke. Tysons is going to compete with Arlington on multiple levels. For all the blather over Clarendon, places like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Court House and Ballston are incredibly generic and have very little to anchor either businesses or residents.

Nope. You are still wrong and starting to look stupid. Washington DC is not moving over to Fairfax County. Most people want to live near the city. Location, location, location. There is no competition. And obviously I am not the "self-appointed spokesman" (although it's okay if you are? Hypocrite. It's a forum, for God's sake). However, I can assure you that I have not heard one single neighbor expressing any concern about Tysons. We.don't.care.

And you say Arlington is generic? Pot, have you melt kettle yet?

Arlington was a POS a few years ago and that's what it's going to be again.

Back in the day the only reason to go to arlington was to goto Marios to get really shitty food late night.

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Anonymous wrote:Just because we think the Tysons boosters are delusional doesn't mean Arlington feels threatened. Hate to burst your bubble, but you are just not that important to us.

That's undermined, I'm afraid, by your obsessive commenting on these threads, when you could be out enjoying one of your six craptastic "urban villages."

And please spare us the mock condescension. No one in Arlington outside of the Pentagon is a player.

Aw, you have made the common mistake of thinking that there is only one person who is commenting. I would hardly call comment a total of three times "obsessive."

Why attack me? Or Arlington? If you truly believe that Tysons is going to be even better than Arlington, why the need to put others down? I haven't put Tysons down at all by suggesting moderating your shrillness about how Tysons is the only place that will matter in the future. Why do you think it detracts from Arlington if Tysons is successful? We in Arlington don't - we merely point out to you that it won't spell the end of Arlington if Tysons develops into a more walkable area with its own - what was your charming phrase? ah, yes - "craptastic 'urban villages.'" You really do need to get over your inferiority complex.

"We in Arlington..." From now on, "we in Tysons" will know to address Arlington residents through their self-appointed spokesman.

Really, you're a frickin' joke. Tysons is going to compete with Arlington on multiple levels. For all the blather over Clarendon, places like Crystal City, Rosslyn, Court House and Ballston are incredibly generic and have very little to anchor either businesses or residents.

Nope. You are still wrong and starting to look stupid. Washington DC is not moving over to Fairfax County. Most people want to live near the city. Location, location, location. There is no competition. And obviously I am not the "self-appointed spokesman" (although it's okay if you are? Hypocrite. It's a forum, for God's sake). However, I can assure you that I have not heard one single neighbor expressing any concern about Tysons. We.don't.care.

And you say Arlington is generic? Pot, have you melt kettle yet?

Arlington was a POS a few years ago and that's what it's going to be again.

Only if you were to move here, my dear.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, totally, haters gonna hate!

Caterers gonna cater.

[Anonymous]

The economic vitality of Tysons and Arlington depends on a healthy center city, i.e. downtown DC. This attitude of "screw you" were the next best thing, and "your decade in the limelight is over," is not reality.

The Northern Virginia suburbs would not be as wealthy if DC was stagnant like St. Louis, Detroit, or Buffalo. DC is one of the most livable and wealthy cities in the US, and the suburbs are the beneficiaries.