The Crash documentary

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Anonymous wrote:Dom was 20 years old. He was a grown ass man and one who was very likely dealing drugs to his girlfriend’s circle ie minor teenagers. He wasn’t a good guy, he was a loser stop coddling !

Well he's dead now, Mackenzie, so I guess it doesn't really matter, does it?

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Anyone see the texts between Kenzie and her dad about “warm milk”?

[Anonymous]

I keep seeing people describe Strongsville as an “upper middle class” community but based on the documentary it seems much more downscale? 17 year olds living with boyfriends, none of these kids heading to college? Is Ohio UMC really that different from DMV UMC?

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to see that there is a sibling. I thought MAckenzie was an only. I really hope the sibling is doing well despite the bad parenting.

Where? I didn't hear of any sibling in the Netflix doc! Weird!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:The parents were the root of the problem. No Ken questioned why their 17 year old should move in with her loser boyfriend who seems to not have a job but is buying designer shit? He was clearly a drug dealer. All the warnings from school and they dismissed all of it. It was really painful to watch.

Definitely terrible parents for letting their teen move in with her boyfriend at 17, but I wouldn't say he was a loser. I'm getting documentaries/shows mixed up in my head about about which one told have which evidence, but Dom seemed like a loving son/brother/uncle, with a lot of projects he was working on, even if they weren't typical jobs. At least one of the guys was shown in a work uniform, like for fast food or retail, and well... he was a drug dealer. Not exactly an upstanding enterprise, but it takes skills, smarts, and motivation. I felt a lot of sympathy for his family--even if he was hitting some bumps in the road with his choices, he seemed to have a sturdy foundation and family support, and would have grown up to be a good guy.

He was a 20 yr old man effing a 17 year old and dealing drugs. They were constantly on shrooms, pot, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents were the root of the problem. No Ken questioned why their 17 year old should move in with her loser boyfriend who seems to not have a job but is buying designer shit? He was clearly a drug dealer. All the warnings from school and they dismissed all of it. It was really painful to watch.

Definitely terrible parents for letting their teen move in with her boyfriend at 17, but I wouldn't say he was a loser. I'm getting documentaries/shows mixed up in my head about about which one told have which evidence, but Dom seemed like a loving son/brother/uncle, with a lot of projects he was working on, even if they weren't typical jobs. At least one of the guys was shown in a work uniform, like for fast food or retail, and well... he was a drug dealer. Not exactly an upstanding enterprise, but it takes skills, smarts, and motivation. I felt a lot of sympathy for his family--even if he was hitting some bumps in the road with his choices, he seemed to have a sturdy foundation and family support, and would have grown up to be a good guy.

I disagree a bit. His father and sister were completely out of the loop. His mother knew about the issues with McKenzie but they somehow didn't? The mother knew McK was acting erratically and didn't contact the father or sister? Very strange family dynamic.

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Why do all these kids talk like they are from downtown Detroit?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do all these kids talk like they are from downtown Detroit?

+1 It definitely threw me off when I watched her speak from prison. Like where did that accent come from? Her parents do not have the same accent.

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Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to see that there is a sibling. I thought MAckenzie was an only. I really hope the sibling is doing well despite the bad parenting.

Where? I didn't hear of any sibling in the Netflix doc! Weird!!!!

I was wondering about that. How odd.

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Anonymous wrote:The dad worked at a school and is now on admin leave for poor judgement after this documentary. Very deserved.

The bong in the dressing closet daily was something else. Where did these kids get this money?

Based on the scale and quantity of drugs in the vehicle, I’m pretty sure they were dealing.

This is what my husband and I thought. How did Dom afford an apartment as a high schooler? None of the families seem extremely wealthy. Clearly those two were dealing. McKenzie’s parents completely shirked all responsibility on raising her. Her behavior was terrible.

There is also no way she was passed out. Having driven a Toyota Camry at close to 100 mph on a highway, the car shakes pretty bad. You have to have a tight grip on the steering wheel to keep it going on a curvy road. She wasn’t incapacitated, she knew what she was doing.

Her demeanor changing so abruptly during the interview when she spoke to her lawyer was chilling, which is clearly why they included it.

+ 2 Kids who are that lacking in judgement and education and skills ... but have enough money to be buying designer stuff? And they have a scale and drugs and she's making all of these reels with blunts and bongs?

I think the part of the documentary that bothered me the most, and heavens knows there is a lot there to be bothered by, was Kenzie's dad smiling a big smile and commenting about how "Dom wasn't hurting for money, and Kenzie liked that." What?!? You are smiling like this about your 17 yr old hs daughter's boyfriend having a lot of money when you know damn well he isn't an investment banker or something? They knew full well what was going on there, and smiled about it and acted like it was some great thing. It's some weird our-daughter's-drug-dealer-boyfriend-buys-her-Gucci-isn't-that-great? shit going on there. It kind of sums up all of the problems for me. This girl was NOT parented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in his 30s now. A close friend and teammate of his beginning in preschool had a family we were also friends with.

He was always an aggressive kid and was first kicked off a public middle school team for grabbing the helmet of a smaller opposing player on the field and slamming him to the ground. In front of everyone.

His parents were very well off and very connected and he immediately went to a private middle school and then to the same popular, well-regarded HS that our kids also attended. I remember his dad and mom telling me with some kind of self-satisfaction that they'd put him into MMA classes to "get out his aggression"

Next thing that happened, not even months later, was a teenage beach fight where he came close to drunkenly killing another boy in a case of sheer mistaken identity. The other kid had to be med flighted and had permanent brain damage. Again he was given diversion and the parents paid for him to enter yet another school, the same one that Cher's son attended. A locked down reform boarding school, basically.

A good college ultimately took him in the end because he was still a wildly superior athlete. He graduated.

Now he works for the local county deputy sheriff's office.

He's a jacked machine of a man and he's currently still out there pulling people over.

OMG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone see the texts between Kenzie and her dad about “warm milk”?

Just read this post and feel like gagging. Who knows what went on in that household.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I keep seeing people describe Strongsville as an “upper middle class” community but based on the documentary it seems much more downscale? 17 year olds living with boyfriends, none of these kids heading to college? Is Ohio UMC really that different from DMV UMC?

I had relatives who lived in Strongsville briefly, and I grew up on the other side of Cleveland myself. From what I recall, there are some nice houses, but not what I would probably call upper middle class by DCUM standards. The high school looks to be fairly decent, ranked 52 out of more than 800 high schools in Ohio, with more than half the students taking at least one AP class.

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What a trashy group of people. The only people who came off well were Davion's adoptive parents. WTF was up with Mackenzie's clueless, enabling parents? What a couple of dopes.

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Killer Cases on Hulu, last episode of season 8 has this story if want more