A Response to Rita Montoya calling Community Members Racist

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

I'm not following this argument that relocating Wootton "breaks up" the community. There was a boundary study that impacted a lot of high schools. The only school being taken out of Wootton is Cold Spring and I think they are fine with that.

I think it’s because they fear that Crown will be overcrowded and sooner or later they will be broken apart. Eg Parkway families become the new edge property and first one to be pushed out if and when Crown is overcrowded.

But also I think the authors point was even if you disagree with this premise, it’s not appropriate to call anyone who disagrees with you racist.

We are weaponizing racism so much to the point where it’s beginning to lack meaning.

I agree. I think it is important to be specific when calling out racism, and Montoya didn't do that when she made the hot mic comment. It makes a mockery of anti-racism to use it in this snarky and catty fashion. Unfortunately that is quite common in the anti-racist movement.

For all those ppl saying she was saying this in reference to the regional program and not boundary study, is this the best defense of Rita you can think of? Is it ever appropriate to call everyone who disagrees with you on a policy as racist? Is board member Julie Yang also racist then?

Rita’s regional programming speech was dripping in Anti-Asian hate. Rita Montoya hates Asians kids and Asian parents. We knew this before she let her mask slip.

I didn't hear any hateful language in Rita's regional programming speech. I thought it was dumb because she conflated the DCC and NEC with magnet programs that aren't part of the consortia. Describing the racial makeup of the magnet programs is not hateful or racist.

Per Rita, those who oppose regional programming whatever their reason (perhaps they want to preserve DCC and NEC), are all racist.

As a parent of color who is a huge fan of DCC, this is offensive on its face.

So to all the people who are saying o no Rita’s comment wasn’t about boundary program, it was about regional program—that’s not a defense babes. The most basic point of the article is elected officials shouldn’t call disagreement as racism. Thats not a controversial or hot take.

Try having a honest conversation with people rather than dismiss them as racist.

I agree it is stupid and distasteful to call everyone who opposed you racist, but it is not hateful towards Asians.

So racism doesn't equate to hate for you. OK.

Calling people racist isn't racism

"But indiscriminately labeling a room full of engaged parents, many of them Asian American, as racist is, at best, ironic; at worst, the very kind of conduct you claim to oppose."

What Rita said was racist - she was generally characterizing the opponents of the BOE's vote as racist. Rita put this out there and she has to own her words. It's too bad that she has never apologized for her hot mic comment.

She didn’t say every opponent was racist. The people the cried out were the same people complaining about the entire boundary study being approved. Note that IT’S NOT ALL ABOUT WOOTTON! The people that complained about Wootton having to go to the same school as Gaithersburg kids and the Farmland/Luxmanor families complaining about FARMS and EML rates were expressing racist opinions. They were also classist and xenophobic.

Hopefully next time Montoya will use all the appropriate labels.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

I'm not following this argument that relocating Wootton "breaks up" the community. There was a boundary study that impacted a lot of high schools. The only school being taken out of Wootton is Cold Spring and I think they are fine with that.

I think it’s because they fear that Crown will be overcrowded and sooner or later they will be broken apart. Eg Parkway families become the new edge property and first one to be pushed out if and when Crown is overcrowded.

But also I think the authors point was even if you disagree with this premise, it’s not appropriate to call anyone who disagrees with you racist.

We are weaponizing racism so much to the point where it’s beginning to lack meaning.

I agree. I think it is important to be specific when calling out racism, and Montoya didn't do that when she made the hot mic comment. It makes a mockery of anti-racism to use it in this snarky and catty fashion. Unfortunately that is quite common in the anti-racist movement.

For all those ppl saying she was saying this in reference to the regional program and not boundary study, is this the best defense of Rita you can think of? Is it ever appropriate to call everyone who disagrees with you on a policy as racist? Is board member Julie Yang also racist then?

Rita’s regional programming speech was dripping in Anti-Asian hate. Rita Montoya hates Asians kids and Asian parents. We knew this before she let her mask slip.

I didn't hear any hateful language in Rita's regional programming speech. I thought it was dumb because she conflated the DCC and NEC with magnet programs that aren't part of the consortia. Describing the racial makeup of the magnet programs is not hateful or racist.

Per Rita, those who oppose regional programming whatever their reason (perhaps they want to preserve DCC and NEC), are all racist.

As a parent of color who is a huge fan of DCC, this is offensive on its face.

So to all the people who are saying o no Rita’s comment wasn’t about boundary program, it was about regional program—that’s not a defense babes. The most basic point of the article is elected officials shouldn’t call disagreement as racism. Thats not a controversial or hot take.

Try having a honest conversation with people rather than dismiss them as racist.

I agree it is stupid and distasteful to call everyone who opposed you racist, but it is not hateful towards Asians.

So racism doesn't equate to hate for you. OK.

Calling people racist isn't racism

"But indiscriminately labeling a room full of engaged parents, many of them Asian American, as racist is, at best, ironic; at worst, the very kind of conduct you claim to oppose."

What Rita said was racist - she was generally characterizing the opponents of the BOE's vote as racist. Rita put this out there and she has to own her words. It's too bad that she has never apologized for her hot mic comment.

Nope, not racism, that is absurd (by this standard I could call everyone who calls Rita Montoya (a Latina) racist, a racist - we can go on an on forever like this)

Nope, it's racist to make a generalized pejorative characterization about specific community members because they opposed the BOE vote, calling them racist. What Montoya said was racist.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a little off topic, but I am in the Viers Mill community, where there is a lot of talk about how detrimental it will be for our community to go and be the poor immigrant kids in the Woodward pyramid. Even though this will probably help our property values here, it is interesting how, even within the black/brown community, there is no perfect answer.

Do I think that Montoya should have said what she said- No. Do I think she should apologize- yes. Do I think what she said is pretty accurate of those arguing for Wootton to stay- yes, she is probably correct. Is there really a great solution for everyone in this insanely large county where every group will be happy- absolutely not.

Are you forgetting how those people acted at that meeting? They were crying out things like “you’re a fraud” while Brenda Wolff was speaking. They ignored Oven’s multiple reminds to behave. They should have been escorted out of the meeting before the vote even happened.

People on here are crying like all they said was a meek “we disagree”.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

I'm not following this argument that relocating Wootton "breaks up" the community. There was a boundary study that impacted a lot of high schools. The only school being taken out of Wootton is Cold Spring and I think they are fine with that.

I think it’s because they fear that Crown will be overcrowded and sooner or later they will be broken apart. Eg Parkway families become the new edge property and first one to be pushed out if and when Crown is overcrowded.

But also I think the authors point was even if you disagree with this premise, it’s not appropriate to call anyone who disagrees with you racist.

We are weaponizing racism so much to the point where it’s beginning to lack meaning.

I agree. I think it is important to be specific when calling out racism, and Montoya didn't do that when she made the hot mic comment. It makes a mockery of anti-racism to use it in this snarky and catty fashion. Unfortunately that is quite common in the anti-racist movement.

For all those ppl saying she was saying this in reference to the regional program and not boundary study, is this the best defense of Rita you can think of? Is it ever appropriate to call everyone who disagrees with you on a policy as racist? Is board member Julie Yang also racist then?

Rita’s regional programming speech was dripping in Anti-Asian hate. Rita Montoya hates Asians kids and Asian parents. We knew this before she let her mask slip.

I didn't hear any hateful language in Rita's regional programming speech. I thought it was dumb because she conflated the DCC and NEC with magnet programs that aren't part of the consortia. Describing the racial makeup of the magnet programs is not hateful or racist.

Per Rita, those who oppose regional programming whatever their reason (perhaps they want to preserve DCC and NEC), are all racist.

As a parent of color who is a huge fan of DCC, this is offensive on its face.

So to all the people who are saying o no Rita’s comment wasn’t about boundary program, it was about regional program—that’s not a defense babes. The most basic point of the article is elected officials shouldn’t call disagreement as racism. Thats not a controversial or hot take.

Try having a honest conversation with people rather than dismiss them as racist.

I agree it is stupid and distasteful to call everyone who opposed you racist, but it is not hateful towards Asians.

So racism doesn't equate to hate for you. OK.

Calling people racist isn't racism

"But indiscriminately labeling a room full of engaged parents, many of them Asian American, as racist is, at best, ironic; at worst, the very kind of conduct you claim to oppose."

What Rita said was racist - she was generally characterizing the opponents of the BOE's vote as racist. Rita put this out there and she has to own her words. It's too bad that she has never apologized for her hot mic comment.

Nope, not racism, that is absurd (by this standard I could call everyone who calls Rita Montoya (a Latina) racist, a racist - we can go on an on forever like this)

Nope, it's racist to make a generalized pejorative characterization about specific community members because they opposed the BOE vote, calling them racist. What Montoya said was racist.

That's not what racism is. Racism is based on race, not political positions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a little off topic, but I am in the Viers Mill community, where there is a lot of talk about how detrimental it will be for our community to go and be the poor immigrant kids in the Woodward pyramid. Even though this will probably help our property values here, it is interesting how, even within the black/brown community, there is no perfect answer.

Do I think that Montoya should have said what she said- No. Do I think she should apologize- yes. Do I think what she said is pretty accurate of those arguing for Wootton to stay- yes, she is probably correct. Is there really a great solution for everyone in this insanely large county where every group will be happy- absolutely not.

Are you forgetting how those people acted at that meeting? They were crying out things like “you’re a fraud” while Brenda Wolff was speaking. They ignored Oven’s multiple reminds to behave. They should have been escorted out of the meeting before the vote even happened.

People on here are crying like all they said was a meek “we disagree”.

Then throw those people out. Call them out individually.

Better yet, call out those who have been writing said emails and chat messages people keep referring to.

Do not label a whole room of people.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a little off topic, but I am in the Viers Mill community, where there is a lot of talk about how detrimental it will be for our community to go and be the poor immigrant kids in the Woodward pyramid. Even though this will probably help our property values here, it is interesting how, even within the black/brown community, there is no perfect answer.

Do I think that Montoya should have said what she said- No. Do I think she should apologize- yes. Do I think what she said is pretty accurate of those arguing for Wootton to stay- yes, she is probably correct. Is there really a great solution for everyone in this insanely large county where every group will be happy- absolutely not.

Most people protesting this move are doing so because
1. Proximity: they are worried it is only a matter of time before they get redistricted because crown is much further for them than walkable Wootton
2. The insane gaslighting and lunacy of this process. (Brown Station: I can promise you this move was made because mcps has already made up its mind to close Ridgeview. Yet another example of decisions being “done deals” before public engagement even started)
3. Unfair: they chose to close down a majority minority school. Why do predominantly white schools get renovations but Wootton didn’t for 17+ years?



And again—regardless of how you feel about Wootton or even if you think Montoya made the comments in response to the regional program, not the boundary study, her comments are disqualifying for an elected official.

Full stop.

Condoning or putting up with this type of behavior from elected officials is why we have who we have in the White House. There’s no debate on the merits of policies and issues, just constant demagoguing

This reads the same way the writer of the op-ed writes so I suspect it's the same person. YAWN.

I’m the PP and I’m not the author of the op-ed but I know her and her perspective is an important one! Sorry it makes you feel uncomfortable!

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

I'm not following this argument that relocating Wootton "breaks up" the community. There was a boundary study that impacted a lot of high schools. The only school being taken out of Wootton is Cold Spring and I think they are fine with that.

I think it’s because they fear that Crown will be overcrowded and sooner or later they will be broken apart. Eg Parkway families become the new edge property and first one to be pushed out if and when Crown is overcrowded.

But also I think the authors point was even if you disagree with this premise, it’s not appropriate to call anyone who disagrees with you racist.

We are weaponizing racism so much to the point where it’s beginning to lack meaning.

I agree. I think it is important to be specific when calling out racism, and Montoya didn't do that when she made the hot mic comment. It makes a mockery of anti-racism to use it in this snarky and catty fashion. Unfortunately that is quite common in the anti-racist movement.

For all those ppl saying she was saying this in reference to the regional program and not boundary study, is this the best defense of Rita you can think of? Is it ever appropriate to call everyone who disagrees with you on a policy as racist? Is board member Julie Yang also racist then?

Rita’s regional programming speech was dripping in Anti-Asian hate. Rita Montoya hates Asians kids and Asian parents. We knew this before she let her mask slip.

I didn't hear any hateful language in Rita's regional programming speech. I thought it was dumb because she conflated the DCC and NEC with magnet programs that aren't part of the consortia. Describing the racial makeup of the magnet programs is not hateful or racist.

Per Rita, those who oppose regional programming whatever their reason (perhaps they want to preserve DCC and NEC), are all racist.

As a parent of color who is a huge fan of DCC, this is offensive on its face.

So to all the people who are saying o no Rita’s comment wasn’t about boundary program, it was about regional program—that’s not a defense babes. The most basic point of the article is elected officials shouldn’t call disagreement as racism. Thats not a controversial or hot take.

Try having a honest conversation with people rather than dismiss them as racist.

I agree it is stupid and distasteful to call everyone who opposed you racist, but it is not hateful towards Asians.

So racism doesn't equate to hate for you. OK.

Calling people racist isn't racism

"But indiscriminately labeling a room full of engaged parents, many of them Asian American, as racist is, at best, ironic; at worst, the very kind of conduct you claim to oppose."

What Rita said was racist - she was generally characterizing the opponents of the BOE's vote as racist. Rita put this out there and she has to own her words. It's too bad that she has never apologized for her hot mic comment.

Nope, not racism, that is absurd (by this standard I could call everyone who calls Rita Montoya (a Latina) racist, a racist - we can go on an on forever like this)

Nope, it's racist to make a generalized pejorative characterization about specific community members because they opposed the BOE vote, calling them racist. What Montoya said was racist.

That's not what racism is. Racism is based on race, not political positions.

Hmmm, Asians disagree with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

Moderately MOCO is RW leaning

They are not moderate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Asians are smart but how much more suffering and discrimination under the Democrats do they need to experience before moving forward to the right side? Seems like they vote against their own interests

Democrats??

Pay attention the US wants a whites only society run by republicans who right now are in charge. Asians are not part of their long term plan.

Anyone voting for one republican for any race any time is stupid

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

why don't moderately moco and parents coalition just post as themselves when they start a new thread to try to drive traffic to their websites from DCUM?

Moderately MOCO is RW leaning and uses word salad

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Anonymous wrote:Almost everyone on the board is an unserious person.

They are mean and petty. They don't actually understand their roles. They pretend oversight is asking questions when they are given error-ridden powerpoint presentations.

MCPS is an embarrassment, honestly. I thought it would get better with TT, but the culture of mediocrity is so entrenched that he has been subsumed into it.

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Move to a red state maga fool

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is a thoughtful response to Rita Montoya's comment caught on a hot mic at the March 26th BOE meeting:

https://moderatelymoco.com/when-disagreement-becomes-racism/

why don't moderately moco and parents coalition just post as themselves when they start a new thread to try to drive traffic to their websites from DCUM?

Moderately MOCO is RW leaning and uses word salad

Mediocre MoCo and A(verage) Van Grack-you people crack me up.

[Anonymous]

Hey Wootton-looking for your reaction to the fact that the entire county is looking at major cuts including to some very significant positions as you continue to complain that they won't give you money to fix your smelly school. Feeling at all tone deaf or still DGAF about anyone else?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey Wootton-looking for your reaction to the fact that the entire county is looking at major cuts including to some very significant positions as you continue to complain that they won't give you money to fix your smelly school. Feeling at all tone deaf or still DGAF about anyone else?

Another insulting post aimed at Wootton, a majority Asian school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hey Wootton-looking for your reaction to the fact that the entire county is looking at major cuts including to some very significant positions as you continue to complain that they won't give you money to fix your smelly school. Feeling at all tone deaf or still DGAF about anyone else?

Another insulting post aimed at Wootton, a majority Asian school.

Correlation is not causation, bruh.