A Response to Rita Montoya calling Community Members Racist

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Next year Wootton will still be at Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

I'm still trying to understand the question.

FrostMS smaller than Wooton HS. Crown was already proposed as a holding school before Wootton got shoved into it and turned Wootton into the supposed holding school.

Apparently no money to fix up Wootton to become that holding school anymore. If I understood those Board docs right.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

I'm still trying to understand the question.

FrostMS smaller than Wooton HS. Crown was already proposed as a holding school before Wootton got shoved into it and turned Wootton into the supposed holding school.

Apparently no money to fix up Wootton to become that holding school anymore. If I understood those Board docs right.

Look a couple of posts back in the thread, to the one that begins with, "The Wootton community is split..." A thought was put forth that "it is a meaningful institution in their community," the idea being that the move to the Crown location would affect that enough to want to forego the opportunity to have a brand new facility -- which would solve the very old issue of Wootton's increasingly bad physical condition.

This was, of course, in the context of this topic, about Rita Montoya's ill-considered delivery of a comment that painted as racist the cheers for Julie Yang's opposition vote (which was, of course, ineffective and likely motivated by vote-gathering for her districted County Council run) to the boundaries/regions plan. The thread had moved to examination of the non-racist rationale(s) for opposition from the Save Wootton group.

So, critical thinking spurs questions about that loss of a meaningful institution to the community. What aspect is really lost aside from those particular neighborhoods' walkability to the HS-level facility?

There remains effectively the same walkability to the middle school, Frost, which is right next door. Is there something for which the community uses Wootton that couldn't be done at Frost?

If MS-level facilities are inadequate, there will be a brand new HS facility available at the Crown site. What is lost, there, where facilities would be nicer, to boot, aside from that walkability for those immediately old-Wootton-proximate neighborhoods?

Though a later poster posits that the old Wootton facility will be mothballed and become a hazard, it is unclear that this would be the case, with MCPS's avowing the need for a secondary holding facility (even if county funding is not yet programmed for specific use) and with additional uncertainty as to whether it would really be locked up and abandoned instead of repurposed, or, at least, continue to remain available to the community in any interim. Why would the community be proscribed from continuing to do things there, just as it does now under the county's/MCPS's community use of public facilities arrangement?

(As an aside, if there is no such prosciption, having both new Wootton and old Wootton available would seem, just from this community use perspective, to be leaving them with more, rather than less.)

If answers to the above questions indicate no terrible degradation of those old-Wootton-walkable community's needs for such a meaningful institution, what other aspects of Wootton's move, from the more concrete to the abstract, are seen as undermining that meaningfulness?

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

I'm still trying to understand the question.

FrostMS smaller than Wooton HS. Crown was already proposed as a holding school before Wootton got shoved into it and turned Wootton into the supposed holding school.

Apparently no money to fix up Wootton to become that holding school anymore. If I understood those Board docs right.

Look a couple of posts back in the thread, to the one that begins with, "The Wootton community is split..." A thought was put forth that "it is a meaningful institution in their community," the idea being that the move to the Crown location would affect that enough to want to forego the opportunity to have a brand new facility -- which would solve the very old issue of Wootton's increasingly bad physical condition.

This was, of course, in the context of this topic, about Rita Montoya's ill-considered delivery of a comment that painted as racist the cheers for Julie Yang's opposition vote (which was, of course, ineffective and likely motivated by vote-gathering for her districted County Council run) to the boundaries/regions plan. The thread had moved to examination of the non-racist rationale(s) for opposition from the Save Wootton group.

So, critical thinking spurs questions about that loss of a meaningful institution to the community. What aspect is really lost aside from those particular neighborhoods' walkability to the HS-level facility?

There remains effectively the same walkability to the middle school, Frost, which is right next door. Is there something for which the community uses Wootton that couldn't be done at Frost?

If MS-level facilities are inadequate, there will be a brand new HS facility available at the Crown site. What is lost, there, where facilities would be nicer, to boot, aside from that walkability for those immediately old-Wootton-proximate neighborhoods?

Though a later poster posits that the old Wootton facility will be mothballed and become a hazard, it is unclear that this would be the case, with MCPS's avowing the need for a secondary holding facility (even if county funding is not yet programmed for specific use) and with additional uncertainty as to whether it would really be locked up and abandoned instead of repurposed, or, at least, continue to remain available to the community in any interim. Why would the community be proscribed from continuing to do things there, just as it does now under the county's/MCPS's community use of public facilities arrangement?

(As an aside, if there is no such prosciption, having both new Wootton and old Wootton available would seem, just from this community use perspective, to be leaving them with more, rather than less.)

If answers to the above questions indicate no terrible degradation of those old-Wootton-walkable community's needs for such a meaningful institution, what other aspects of Wootton's move, from the more concrete to the abstract, are seen as undermining that meaningfulness?

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please for the love of all that is holy take a writing class

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

I'm still trying to understand the question.

FrostMS smaller than Wooton HS. Crown was already proposed as a holding school before Wootton got shoved into it and turned Wootton into the supposed holding school.

Apparently no money to fix up Wootton to become that holding school anymore. If I understood those Board docs right.

Look a couple of posts back in the thread, to the one that begins with, "The Wootton community is split..." A thought was put forth that "it is a meaningful institution in their community," the idea being that the move to the Crown location would affect that enough to want to forego the opportunity to have a brand new facility -- which would solve the very old issue of Wootton's increasingly bad physical condition.

This was, of course, in the context of this topic, about Rita Montoya's ill-considered delivery of a comment that painted as racist the cheers for Julie Yang's opposition vote (which was, of course, ineffective and likely motivated by vote-gathering for her districted County Council run) to the boundaries/regions plan. The thread had moved to examination of the non-racist rationale(s) for opposition from the Save Wootton group.

So, critical thinking spurs questions about that loss of a meaningful institution to the community. What aspect is really lost aside from those particular neighborhoods' walkability to the HS-level facility?

There remains effectively the same walkability to the middle school, Frost, which is right next door. Is there something for which the community uses Wootton that couldn't be done at Frost?

If MS-level facilities are inadequate, there will be a brand new HS facility available at the Crown site. What is lost, there, where facilities would be nicer, to boot, aside from that walkability for those immediately old-Wootton-proximate neighborhoods?

Though a later poster posits that the old Wootton facility will be mothballed and become a hazard, it is unclear that this would be the case, with MCPS's avowing the need for a secondary holding facility (even if county funding is not yet programmed for specific use) and with additional uncertainty as to whether it would really be locked up and abandoned instead of repurposed, or, at least, continue to remain available to the community in any interim. Why would the community be proscribed from continuing to do things there, just as it does now under the county's/MCPS's community use of public facilities arrangement?

(As an aside, if there is no such prosciption, having both new Wootton and old Wootton available would seem, just from this community use perspective, to be leaving them with more, rather than less.)

If answers to the above questions indicate no terrible degradation of those old-Wootton-walkable community's needs for such a meaningful institution, what other aspects of Wootton's move, from the more concrete to the abstract, are seen as undermining that meaningfulness?

DP here

please for the love of all that is holy take a writing class

Feel free to ignore it, yourself.

Or, maybe, y'know, to answer the questions.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

I'm still trying to understand the question.

FrostMS smaller than Wooton HS. Crown was already proposed as a holding school before Wootton got shoved into it and turned Wootton into the supposed holding school.

Apparently no money to fix up Wootton to become that holding school anymore. If I understood those Board docs right.

Look a couple of posts back in the thread, to the one that begins with, "The Wootton community is split..." A thought was put forth that "it is a meaningful institution in their community," the idea being that the move to the Crown location would affect that enough to want to forego the opportunity to have a brand new facility -- which would solve the very old issue of Wootton's increasingly bad physical condition.

This was, of course, in the context of this topic, about Rita Montoya's ill-considered delivery of a comment that painted as racist the cheers for Julie Yang's opposition vote (which was, of course, ineffective and likely motivated by vote-gathering for her districted County Council run) to the boundaries/regions plan. The thread had moved to examination of the non-racist rationale(s) for opposition from the Save Wootton group.

So, critical thinking spurs questions about that loss of a meaningful institution to the community. What aspect is really lost aside from those particular neighborhoods' walkability to the HS-level facility?

There remains effectively the same walkability to the middle school, Frost, which is right next door. Is there something for which the community uses Wootton that couldn't be done at Frost?

If MS-level facilities are inadequate, there will be a brand new HS facility available at the Crown site. What is lost, there, where facilities would be nicer, to boot, aside from that walkability for those immediately old-Wootton-proximate neighborhoods?

Though a later poster posits that the old Wootton facility will be mothballed and become a hazard, it is unclear that this would be the case, with MCPS's avowing the need for a secondary holding facility (even if county funding is not yet programmed for specific use) and with additional uncertainty as to whether it would really be locked up and abandoned instead of repurposed, or, at least, continue to remain available to the community in any interim. Why would the community be proscribed from continuing to do things there, just as it does now under the county's/MCPS's community use of public facilities arrangement?

(As an aside, if there is no such prosciption, having both new Wootton and old Wootton available would seem, just from this community use perspective, to be leaving them with more, rather than less.)

If answers to the above questions indicate no terrible degradation of those old-Wootton-walkable community's needs for such a meaningful institution, what other aspects of Wootton's move, from the more concrete to the abstract, are seen as undermining that meaningfulness?

DP here

please for the love of all that is holy take a writing class

I know, right? Posts are unreadable.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of racism on all sides in MCPS and the county. Many of the Wootton protestors are community members with young kids or much older with kids out of the school system if you look at the pictures of the protestors so its hard to take them seriously.

I don't agree with the Save Wootton crowd but what do you have against parents with young kids advocating for what they want? Their families will be directly impacted (and I think they will be fine but they have a right to share their views)

Because why would you want your kids to go to a run-down, mold-infested school? You'd rather have your convenience than your kids' health? They have no clue and are selfish. Who knows if their kids will even go to Wootton? Most want a new school.

The Wootton community is split on moving to Crown, but when it's your neighborhood school, some people legitimately want to save that school because it is a meaningful institution in their community. Were they happy that it was in bad shape? No, they tried for years to get it fixed.

DP.

Aside from having it within walking distance for school attendance, is there something the community does with the facility that they could not do with it as a holding facility? Are there restrictions against community use of a holding school gym or the like? And with Frost MS in the back yard also available, is there something the community does with Wootton that would require a HS-level facility if, for some reason, the holding facility were closed to them?

Is it's being "a meaningful institution in their community" more abstract than that from a proximity perspective, since the school, itself, would just be farther away?

What school is using Wootton as a holding school in the foreseeable future? None. That means the building will sit empty; it will not be maintained for community use. The neighborhood will have to stay on MCPS to secure the property - high chainlink fences surrounding it and cameras. Abandoned buildings are at greater risk of break-ins, damage, and fire: Google Farquhar Middle School (arson) and JoAnn Leleck Elementary School fires

Allowing for whatever period might be necessary to perform the repairs required for holding school use, the immediate PP notes the many projects that could be in line to utilize the space, making abandonment of the sort described unlikely. Can the community not utilize the next-door Frost MS during that repair period? Or Wootton at the Crown site, which would mean for the very few functions that could not use Frost while repairs were underway/perhaps while the old Wootton facility was closed off between occupancies (unsure of MCPS community use policy in such a case), it might take a drive instead of a walk for those currently in the Wootton wall zone?

you pose such reasonable questions. The people screaming to save Wootton and showing up everywhere to be rude don't want to have to drive to crown for anything. The "meaningful institution in their community" is for their hypothetical MLS listing.

Property value may be a consideration for some, certainly. I'd tend to think quality of life in living there (presumed HS-walkable, but now not to be | presumed local-catchment traffic, but now to be others | etc.) might be just as, if not more, important.

However, the silence in response to those questions asked, with, instead, a doubling down/focus on possibly spurious claims about whether the facility would be used at all, is unfortunate, and does not lend much in the way of credence to the expressed concerns. Just as for MCPS (which...let's say, um...regularly has difficulty in this regard), the position should stand up to critical thought.

Are you OK? Perhaps hd too much to smoke? Pretty much a nonsensical meandering post.

Sorry the language used, there, exceeds a Twitter-level attention span to ingest. Still no answers to the questions?

Put down your thesaurus, you're ridiculous. What school is lined up next year to use Wootton as a holding school? None? Right.

Aaaaannnd, still no answer to:

Why can't the community use Frost MS locally, new Wootton at Crown when absolutely necessary to have a HS-level facility when old Wootton is unavailable due to repairs, and old Wootton (in coordination with the school occupying it, just as it has to today) when it is being used for holding?

Money, there is a brand new school down the road. Get over it.