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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

Inflation goes up, house prices go up, and the government raises taxes because inflation went up and everything costs more

House prices go down, taxes go up, because government can't pay for the existing services.

Maybe we should think about what those "existing services" are.

never in. maryland. they tell us to pay and shut up or leave. A lot are leaving

Yes, you should leave if you want worst schools, roads that have no upkeep, terrible transportation, no parks, no community centers, libraries that don’t have books, no restaurants, lack of choice in restaurants

Yes, if you want everything that Maryland gives you it cost money if you want very little go to a state that gives you very little

You guys need to update your talking points. These stats are at least 20 years old. Fact is mcps has only gotten worse even as it gets more and more money. Mcps is losing kids and isnt growing because parents rather go private or home school.

Roads are horrible. Nova has build tons of hov lanes on 495 and 95 and we've added nothing. Nova has built new metro stops up 267 and we cant get a freaking lite rail to work.

The pot holes in our county are as big as the insurance increases we've had to endure from thefts and illegals causing accidents with no insurance

These are scare tactics that worked 2 decades ago but no longer are true

You must not have lived here at 20, 30 or 40 years ago because kids were smoking in the bathroom because they didn’t wanna hang out in the senior lounge which allowed smoking. We had 23-year-olds on our football team.

We had no SAT prep and very few AP choices. We created schools for busing (magnets) so that we could get rid of busing.

Nova roads, you’ve got to be kidding me.. how’s that $32 toll treating you?

How are those data centers and the increase in your power costs?… oh wait you don’t have power anymore because of the data centers. You have to buy it from Maryland and West Virginia.

Moco had over 30 murders in 2002 and 2015. Moco averages 30 / year in the past 45 years so no it’s not worse now .

Name a street with a pothole, doesn’t exist.

White males by far more crimes than anybody else in the whole country, including Montgomery County. White male steal $1 billion a day in Wall Street frauds, that doesn’t include insurance frauds, or healthcare frauds.

You’re a naïve ignorant human who has allowed people to deceive you and you’re spinning out over lies.

Men like you’re actually the most dangerous, so yeah bye go to Virginia and spin out.

You literally didn’t refute any of PP’s points.

The Silver Line had been finished for a while now and 267 alongside it is bustling with jobs. Where is the Purple Line and all the jobs and development that was supposed to come with it? Silver Spring was essentially held hostage by Purple Line development for 10 years and its businesses were dealt an 1-2 punch between Purple Line disruptions and COVID. Now Silver Spring is so bad the Council has literally proposed putting police robots in garages there. Yes, police robots!!

Montgomery County had the highest household income in the country in the 80s and 90s. Now it isn’t even about Calvert and Prince William Counties. Calvert County was a Klan stronghold and full of hillbillies in the 80s and now it is wealthier than a county that contains Chevy Chase and Bethesda. How do you reconcile that?

I could go on. Anyone who’s lived in this area and has been around will tell you how Montgomery County has lost its edge if they’re being honest and are arguing in good faith.

You got the silver line a few decades after the Red line , welcome to the 21st century.

I refuted everything about Montgomery County losing its edge. You did a You didn’t address any of those point. Sorry, not sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

It’s all made up.

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Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) is managing a massive $172 million deficit.

Project over budget and not on track…

Route 28 Widening

I-495 Southside Express Lanes:

route 7 improvement

Tax hikes

Online order tax
Delivery tax
Rideshare tax
Arlington and Fairfax County tax increase
Grantor's Tax
Special Northern Virginia sales tax
Increase gas tax

State Corporation Commission (SCC) approved Dominion's base rate increase

residential customers are subsidizing the substations and transmission lines For data centers

Grid Undergrounding fees

HB 900 tax

It’s funny because I think most Virginia residents don’t even know how they pay taxes, how many taxes they’re paying monthly that they’re not even aware of.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

It’s all made up.

Yeah, it's all very strange. I don't get the agenda. Even above someone posted about a gun incident at Watkins Mill HS (which is in a relatively poor part of MoCo), but I googled and discovered that there was a similar incident in February of this year at Liberty HS, which in a very affluent part of Arlington. It's crazy how they act as though only MoCo has these issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

When you were driving from Bethesda to Rockville did it occur to you how odd it is that the White Flint Mall site is still abandoned after all these years and the White Flint Metro is surrounded by a Hot Chicken place and bus stops full of homeless people? I did.

I parked at Wiehle Metro the other day and was astonished at how put together the whole area was compared to a metro stop like White Flint. A new JW Marriott, a CVS where nothing was locked behind plastic cases, new condos and office buildings. It was like being in a different country.

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Anonymous wrote:Strange to bring up the purple line, when the fact is that were it not for Republican Larry Hogan, the project would have been done by now at a much smaller cost:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/06/20/larry-hogan-purple-line-fiasco/

Unfortunately, Republicans are good at criticizing but not good at governing, as Maryland learned with Hogan.

This has nothing to do with party affiliation. Arlington, Falls Church City and Fairfax have been governed by Democrats for decades yet the Virginia Dems have this crazy theory that hasn’t migrated across the river to Montgomery County that you can get money for public services and infrastructure by engaging and not alienating the private sector. They have this crazy theory that you shouldn’t actively try to drive away private companies because - this might come as a shock - these private entities generate tax revenue to pay for stuff for the public good! It’s insane, I know.

In Montgomery County, the Dems seem to think a better plan is to drive away people with money and private businesses, come up with annoying regulations that don’t have any effect but serve only to virtue signal and do virtually nothing to attract citizens who pay more in on the public coffers than they consume - like young college educated professionals and young highly educated immigrants - who would much rather live in places like Arlington, Loudoun County, and NoVA in general.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

Inflation goes up, house prices go up, and the government raises taxes because inflation went up and everything costs more

House prices go down, taxes go up, because government can't pay for the existing services.

Maybe we should think about what those "existing services" are.

never in. maryland. they tell us to pay and shut up or leave. A lot are leaving

Yes, you should leave if you want worst schools, roads that have no upkeep, terrible transportation, no parks, no community centers, libraries that don’t have books, no restaurants, lack of choice in restaurants

Yes, if you want everything that Maryland gives you it cost money if you want very little go to a state that gives you very little

You guys need to update your talking points. These stats are at least 20 years old. Fact is mcps has only gotten worse even as it gets more and more money. Mcps is losing kids and isnt growing because parents rather go private or home school.

Roads are horrible. Nova has build tons of hov lanes on 495 and 95 and we've added nothing. Nova has built new metro stops up 267 and we cant get a freaking lite rail to work.

The pot holes in our county are as big as the insurance increases we've had to endure from thefts and illegals causing accidents with no insurance

These are scare tactics that worked 2 decades ago but no longer are true

You must not have lived here at 20, 30 or 40 years ago because kids were smoking in the bathroom because they didn’t wanna hang out in the senior lounge which allowed smoking. We had 23-year-olds on our football team.

We had no SAT prep and very few AP choices. We created schools for busing (magnets) so that we could get rid of busing.

Nova roads, you’ve got to be kidding me.. how’s that $32 toll treating you?

How are those data centers and the increase in your power costs?… oh wait you don’t have power anymore because of the data centers. You have to buy it from Maryland and West Virginia.

Moco had over 30 murders in 2002 and 2015. Moco averages 30 / year in the past 45 years so no it’s not worse now .

Name a street with a pothole, doesn’t exist.

White males by far more crimes than anybody else in the whole country, including Montgomery County. White male steal $1 billion a day in Wall Street frauds, that doesn’t include insurance frauds, or healthcare frauds.

You’re a naïve ignorant human who has allowed people to deceive you and you’re spinning out over lies.

Men like you’re actually the most dangerous, so yeah bye go to Virginia and spin out.

You literally didn’t refute any of PP’s points.

The Silver Line had been finished for a while now and 267 alongside it is bustling with jobs. Where is the Purple Line and all the jobs and development that was supposed to come with it? Silver Spring was essentially held hostage by Purple Line development for 10 years and its businesses were dealt an 1-2 punch between Purple Line disruptions and COVID. Now Silver Spring is so bad the Council has literally proposed putting police robots in garages there. Yes, police robots!!

Montgomery County had the highest household income in the country in the 80s and 90s. Now it isn’t even about Calvert and Prince William Counties. Calvert County was a Klan stronghold and full of hillbillies in the 80s and now it is wealthier than a county that contains Chevy Chase and Bethesda. How do you reconcile that?

I could go on. Anyone who’s lived in this area and has been around will tell you how Montgomery County has lost its edge if they’re being honest and are arguing in good faith.

You got the silver line a few decades after the Red line , welcome to the 21st century.

I refuted everything about Montgomery County losing its edge. You did a You didn’t address any of those point. Sorry, not sorry.

Um, you are aware than the Orange, Yellow, and Blue Lines exist right? Is this a joke?

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

It’s all made up.

Yeah, it's all very strange. I don't get the agenda. Even above someone posted about a gun incident at Watkins Mill HS (which is in a relatively poor part of MoCo), but I googled and discovered that there was a similar incident in February of this year at Liberty HS, which in a very affluent part of Arlington. It's crazy how they act as though only MoCo has these issues.

because you live in a bubble and think b/c some of the most affluent areas in the state are doing ok, everywhere else in the county and state are also.

people like you vote for these increased taxes while we suffer and you drive your convertibles around bethesda thinking how great life is

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

When you were driving from Bethesda to Rockville did it occur to you how odd it is that the White Flint Mall site is still abandoned after all these years and the White Flint Metro is surrounded by a Hot Chicken place and bus stops full of homeless people? I did.

I parked at Wiehle Metro the other day and was astonished at how put together the whole area was compared to a metro stop like White Flint. A new JW Marriott, a CVS where nothing was locked behind plastic cases, new condos and office buildings. It was like being in a different country.

they ignore all the problems, and welcome the tax increases. they love telling us to leave if we want our government to be efficient. very sad

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

When you were driving from Bethesda to Rockville did it occur to you how odd it is that the White Flint Mall site is still abandoned after all these years and the White Flint Metro is surrounded by a Hot Chicken place and bus stops full of homeless people? I did.

I parked at Wiehle Metro the other day and was astonished at how put together the whole area was compared to a metro stop like White Flint. A new JW Marriott, a CVS where nothing was locked behind plastic cases, new condos and office buildings. It was like being in a different country.

The homeless population is because of the relatively new, HUGE homeless shelter off Nebel. It also has one of the largest calls for police service in the county. They try to solve problems but don't know how to implement things in any competent way.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

When you were driving from Bethesda to Rockville did it occur to you how odd it is that the White Flint Mall site is still abandoned after all these years and the White Flint Metro is surrounded by a Hot Chicken place and bus stops full of homeless people? I did.

I parked at Wiehle Metro the other day and was astonished at how put together the whole area was compared to a metro stop like White Flint. A new JW Marriott, a CVS where nothing was locked behind plastic cases, new condos and office buildings. It was like being in a different country.

This is a problem with the Lerners. You can google and find other examples where the Lerners are very slow to develop land they own. It's privately owned land, so it's not as though the county can wave a magic wand and make them develop it. The Lerners spent years and years fighting a losing court battle with the Lord and Taylor department store over a relatively small amount of money rather than moving forward with developing the site. If you're angry about that site, that anger should be directed to the Lerners. They could build new homes there and sell them without a problem for nearly $2 million each, which is exactly what's happening just down the road (https://www.craftmarkhomes.com/communities/strathmore-view/).

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes I wonder if I live in a different county than the people who post here. I live in bethesda and was doing errands in rockville and gaithersburg earlier this week, and i noticed how well-maintained and nice this county is. Roads were in great condition, there was ample greenery in full bloom, places were clean, friendly people everywhere. I wish the weather in this area were better, but otherwise I'm grateful to live here.

When you were driving from Bethesda to Rockville did it occur to you how odd it is that the White Flint Mall site is still abandoned after all these years and the White Flint Metro is surrounded by a Hot Chicken place and bus stops full of homeless people? I did.

I parked at Wiehle Metro the other day and was astonished at how put together the whole area was compared to a metro stop like White Flint. A new JW Marriott, a CVS where nothing was locked behind plastic cases, new condos and office buildings. It was like being in a different country.

This is a problem with the Lerners. You can google and find other examples where the Lerners are very slow to develop land they own. It's privately owned land, so it's not as though the county can wave a magic wand and make them develop it. The Lerners spent years and years fighting a losing court battle with the Lord and Taylor department store over a relatively small amount of money rather than moving forward with developing the site. If you're angry about that site, that anger should be directed to the Lerners. They could build new homes there and sell them without a problem for nearly $2 million each, which is exactly what's happening just down the road (https://www.craftmarkhomes.com/communities/strathmore-view/).

The Lerners are paying almost nothing to maintain that land but can borrow heavily against it. The county and state do very little to impose costs on commercial real estate like this. In fact, state property tax assessments for commercial properties (including apartment buildings) are based on how much revenue they bring in. Changing it to make commercial properties pay taxes on what the property is actually worth would bring in a lot more revenue and create an incentive to develop the land. Another idea is to impose a very high recondition tax when undeveloped land is used to secure a loan and then use that money to build affordable housing somewhere else.

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I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.