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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

A real plan would include salary increases and hire more county workers. This would lower unemployment in the county and help address federal job loss.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

How could this be the case? Every agency’s budget is still going up and overall spending will still increase 4.2 percent, which is more than the GWA and inflation. Moreover, how could an agency possibly know that it’s cutting a position less than 24 hours after a single council member proposed a high-level budget framework?

Residents have been clear that they don’t want a tax increase. Elrich proposed a very large tax increase. Fani-Gonzalez proposed a somewhat large tax increase that fell disproportionately on lower income households. Neither Friedson nor Glass spoke up against eliminating the ITOC, which would resulted in a massive tax increase on the county’s most affordable homes.

We’ve all been taxed to death by the state and the county for the past four years. Enough is enough. If Jawando wasn’t the clear favorite before this proposal, he certainly is now.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

How could this be the case? Every agency’s budget is still going up and overall spending will still increase 4.2 percent, which is more than the GWA and inflation. Moreover, how could an agency possibly know that it’s cutting a position less than 24 hours after a single council member proposed a high-level budget framework?

Residents have been clear that they don’t want a tax increase. Elrich proposed a very large tax increase. Fani-Gonzalez proposed a somewhat large tax increase that fell disproportionately on lower income households. Neither Friedson nor Glass spoke up against eliminating the ITOC, which would resulted in a massive tax increase on the county’s most affordable homes.

We’ve all been taxed to death by the state and the county for the past four years. Enough is enough. If Jawando wasn’t the clear favorite before this proposal, he certainly is now.

If he or his staff had been following committee sessions on the budget, they'd know what they are proposing to cut. Agencies don't get to spend their total appropriation willy nilly. There are strict spending regulations that don't let them shift money from one line item to another without going through certain approval processes.

His math doesn't math. These cuts don't close the gap.

It's disingenuous to say NFG's tax proposal disproportionately burdens lower income households. Hers gives income tax breaks to lower income households. Most lower income folks are renting not owning.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

How could this be the case? Every agency’s budget is still going up and overall spending will still increase 4.2 percent, which is more than the GWA and inflation. Moreover, how could an agency possibly know that it’s cutting a position less than 24 hours after a single council member proposed a high-level budget framework?

Residents have been clear that they don’t want a tax increase. Elrich proposed a very large tax increase. Fani-Gonzalez proposed a somewhat large tax increase that fell disproportionately on lower income households. Neither Friedson nor Glass spoke up against eliminating the ITOC, which would resulted in a massive tax increase on the county’s most affordable homes.

We’ve all been taxed to death by the state and the county for the past four years. Enough is enough. If Jawando wasn’t the clear favorite before this proposal, he certainly is now.

If he or his staff had been following committee sessions on the budget, they'd know what they are proposing to cut. Agencies don't get to spend their total appropriation willy nilly. There are strict spending regulations that don't let them shift money from one line item to another without going through certain approval processes.

His math doesn't math. These cuts don't close the gap.

It's disingenuous to say NFG's tax proposal disproportionately burdens lower income households. Hers gives income tax breaks to lower income households. Most lower income folks are renting not owning.

There’s nothing in the Jawando proposal that prevents committees and agencies from fine tuning the high-level proposal to target reduction in increases appropriately. It’s still early in the budget season, and that’s the next logical step. It seems like the education committee has already been working with MC and MCPS to reduce increases but from what I’ve seen of transportation and php, Glass and Friedson have resisted reducing increases for their agencies and programs. It’s time for everyone to get on board so we can avoid a tax increase.

The NFG proposal gives some rate reductions but also takes away some credits (ie the WFIS). For lower income households, taking away the credits costs more than they gain from the breaks. It’s disingenuous to say her proposal lowers the burden for lower income households. The only people who escape an increase in her proposal are landlords. I don’t know why that is so I’ll leave it to others who might be able to explain better.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

How could this be the case? Every agency’s budget is still going up and overall spending will still increase 4.2 percent, which is more than the GWA and inflation. Moreover, how could an agency possibly know that it’s cutting a position less than 24 hours after a single council member proposed a high-level budget framework?

Residents have been clear that they don’t want a tax increase. Elrich proposed a very large tax increase. Fani-Gonzalez proposed a somewhat large tax increase that fell disproportionately on lower income households. Neither Friedson nor Glass spoke up against eliminating the ITOC, which would resulted in a massive tax increase on the county’s most affordable homes.

We’ve all been taxed to death by the state and the county for the past four years. Enough is enough. If Jawando wasn’t the clear favorite before this proposal, he certainly is now.

If he or his staff had been following committee sessions on the budget, they'd know what they are proposing to cut. Agencies don't get to spend their total appropriation willy nilly. There are strict spending regulations that don't let them shift money from one line item to another without going through certain approval processes.

His math doesn't math. These cuts don't close the gap.

It's disingenuous to say NFG's tax proposal disproportionately burdens lower income households. Hers gives income tax breaks to lower income households. Most lower income folks are renting not owning.

There’s nothing in the Jawando proposal that prevents committees and agencies from fine tuning the high-level proposal to target reduction in increases appropriately. It’s still early in the budget season, and that’s the next logical step. It seems like the education committee has already been working with MC and MCPS to reduce increases but from what I’ve seen of transportation and php, Glass and Friedson have resisted reducing increases for their agencies and programs. It’s time for everyone to get on board so we can avoid a tax increase.

The NFG proposal gives some rate reductions but also takes away some credits (ie the WFIS). For lower income households, taking away the credits costs more than they gain from the breaks. It’s disingenuous to say her proposal lowers the burden for lower income households. The only people who escape an increase in her proposal are landlords. I don’t know why that is so I’ll leave it to others who might be able to explain better.

You refuse to look at any aspect of county living other than through a housing lens. Housing is critical but it's not the only thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I never expected Jawando to come in with the most responsible budget plan. His plan cuts even more than the council president’s plan, leaves property taxes alone, and only raises taxes on households with more than $500k in income. He clearly gets this better than the other two candidates.

Hahahahah

What’s so funny? The plan looks credible to me and preferable to the Elrich proposal and the Fani-Gonzalez proposal that Friedson endorsed.

I've seen his proposed cuts. He did no homework, consulted with nobody. Or he just doesn't care who and what he harms. I suppose he packages his ideas well. But it's all smoke and mirrors.

Personally, I'd rather go with a lower salary increase than see any county employee lose their job. Like, he cuts a custodial contract increase. So county employees get raises but lower-paid contractual janitors don't? He's like a mini Elon Musk.

No one loses their job in this plan and departments will be able to fill at least some of their vacancies. Just because you’d personally do something else doesn’t mean he didn’t do his homework. If he proposed something that’s unworkable, his colleagues or the county departments would have jumped on him already.

Wouldn’t you agree that he demonstrated that it’s possible to do a budget without tax increases for almost everyone? No one else had done that yet. The Fani-Gonzalez proposal had big tax increases.

Personally, I’m glad to see the green bank paused and the unspent jobs act money rescinded. Those programs are both wasteful. Otherwise, these aren’t actually cuts. They’re just slightly smaller increases than what the executive proposed.

It’s shocking that neither of the other two executive candidates could get there first, especially the alleged fiscal hawk who to this day has never proposed a serious plan for slowing down spending growth even a little.

I agree with you on the green bank.

At least one position he proposes to cut is filled. Brand new hire. I'm sure that person will be just thrilled in this lousy job market. I hope it's not someone who was hired under the displaced federal worker program the county is running.

in many line items, these are cuts. Like cutting a cost escalation of $1.5 million to fund tire replacements in fleet. That cost went up because tire prices went up (hello, tarriffs). Not because they are getting more tires. That means county cars will be running out there on unsafe tires in certain circumstances, or they will sideline certain cars altogether (which means other services will decline). Contractual cost escalation often reflects the cost of merely maintaining services, not necessarily something more or better.

How could this be the case? Every agency’s budget is still going up and overall spending will still increase 4.2 percent, which is more than the GWA and inflation. Moreover, how could an agency possibly know that it’s cutting a position less than 24 hours after a single council member proposed a high-level budget framework?

Residents have been clear that they don’t want a tax increase. Elrich proposed a very large tax increase. Fani-Gonzalez proposed a somewhat large tax increase that fell disproportionately on lower income households. Neither Friedson nor Glass spoke up against eliminating the ITOC, which would resulted in a massive tax increase on the county’s most affordable homes.

We’ve all been taxed to death by the state and the county for the past four years. Enough is enough. If Jawando wasn’t the clear favorite before this proposal, he certainly is now.

If he or his staff had been following committee sessions on the budget, they'd know what they are proposing to cut. Agencies don't get to spend their total appropriation willy nilly. There are strict spending regulations that don't let them shift money from one line item to another without going through certain approval processes.

His math doesn't math. These cuts don't close the gap.

It's disingenuous to say NFG's tax proposal disproportionately burdens lower income households. Hers gives income tax breaks to lower income households. Most lower income folks are renting not owning.

Other than the green bank and the unspent jobs act money, nothing is being cut. The county still gets an increase. If you’d watched the committee sessions, you’d see the chairs weren’t reducing any increases and were supporting very expensive programs.

This proposal gives the committees a reasonable target to aim for. If they can’t make the target, maybe the full council will hit the target, or maybe all of them can explain why a particular line item justified a tax increase. Making a 4.2 percent budget increase work isn’t a hardship. My budget isn’t going up 4.2 percent this year and I’m making it work. My neighbors are in the same boat.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

why is it maga? i'm not maga and my property taxes have almost increased 100% in a decade or so. why should I be happy about that.

and before you talk about home prices, we havent gotten any better services in a decade to justify 100% increase in property taxes. 51% goes to MCPS and elrich wants a special assessment on top of the increases for Capital projects.

maybe you dont care but people are fed up.

Your property taxes increased 100% because the value of your home increased 100%

… you psychopath

this isnt how property taxes work, its not an unrealized gains tax. and my property didnt increase anywhere near 100%.

this is the problem with socialists. they own nothing and they want the government to tax everyone out of their property b/c they think they'll get it

you wont

glad states are looking at if property taxes are the best want to fund. maryland will go to war to keep property taxes but they'll be plenty of states that get rid of them

This is the problem with maga they don’t know simple math.

What happened was Montgomery County did a reassessment of the value of your property. The value of my property was 350 then it was 550 then it was 750.

So yes, now I pay more property tax than when I originally bought if that’s not something in Montgomery County did.

There are no states in the United States that do not collect property tax.

so if the housing market crashes and now my property is worth was it was 10 years(property taxes were half as much), what happens to my current property taxes? does MOCO reduce my taxes accordingly back to 2016 value? if so, how would they survive losing 50% of their expected revenue coming in when they already need a special property tax assessment on double the revenue.

these arguments are that we should pay unrealized capital gains b/c our home values went us, surely, it will reduce similarily or that argument is just nonsense.

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Montgomery Perspective likes the Jawando plan:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2026/04/29/jawando-releases-detailed-budget-changes/

Meanwhile, Councilmember Balcombe, who is on Friedson’s slate, supported raising property taxes by eliminating the ITOC today. So much for not supporting a property tax increase.

Two weeks ago I never would have expected Jawando to be the only council candidate against a broad increase. Yes the same guy who voted against a tax increase a couple years ago because it wasn’t big enough. Credit to him for reading the room and getting creative to avoid an increase. Silly me for assuming all the people who talk tough on taxes would jump on board.

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Thank goodness I joined the kind, moderate folks in Frederick.

May 270 remain 2 lanes forever.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

why is it maga? i'm not maga and my property taxes have almost increased 100% in a decade or so. why should I be happy about that.

and before you talk about home prices, we havent gotten any better services in a decade to justify 100% increase in property taxes. 51% goes to MCPS and elrich wants a special assessment on top of the increases for Capital projects.

maybe you dont care but people are fed up.

Your property taxes increased 100% because the value of your home increased 100%

… you psychopath

this isnt how property taxes work, its not an unrealized gains tax. and my property didnt increase anywhere near 100%.

this is the problem with socialists. they own nothing and they want the government to tax everyone out of their property b/c they think they'll get it

you wont

glad states are looking at if property taxes are the best want to fund. maryland will go to war to keep property taxes but they'll be plenty of states that get rid of them

This is the problem with maga they don’t know simple math.

What happened was Montgomery County did a reassessment of the value of your property. The value of my property was 350 then it was 550 then it was 750.

So yes, now I pay more property tax than when I originally bought if that’s not something in Montgomery County did.

There are no states in the United States that do not collect property tax.

so if the housing market crashes and now my property is worth was it was 10 years(property taxes were half as much), what happens to my current property taxes? does MOCO reduce my taxes accordingly back to 2016 value? if so, how would they survive losing 50% of their expected revenue coming in when they already need a special property tax assessment on double the revenue.

these arguments are that we should pay unrealized capital gains b/c our home values went us, surely, it will reduce similarily or that argument is just nonsense.

The odds of what you're describing is basically zero. But in the situation you describe, there would have been a mass exodus of people from the DMV that has no historical parallel (not even anything close), and in that situation, the demand for schools and services would go down also.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

why is it maga? i'm not maga and my property taxes have almost increased 100% in a decade or so. why should I be happy about that.

and before you talk about home prices, we havent gotten any better services in a decade to justify 100% increase in property taxes. 51% goes to MCPS and elrich wants a special assessment on top of the increases for Capital projects.

maybe you dont care but people are fed up.

Your property taxes increased 100% because the value of your home increased 100%

… you psychopath

this isnt how property taxes work, its not an unrealized gains tax. and my property didnt increase anywhere near 100%.

this is the problem with socialists. they own nothing and they want the government to tax everyone out of their property b/c they think they'll get it

you wont

glad states are looking at if property taxes are the best want to fund. maryland will go to war to keep property taxes but they'll be plenty of states that get rid of them

This is the problem with maga they don’t know simple math.

What happened was Montgomery County did a reassessment of the value of your property. The value of my property was 350 then it was 550 then it was 750.

So yes, now I pay more property tax than when I originally bought if that’s not something in Montgomery County did.

There are no states in the United States that do not collect property tax.

so if the housing market crashes and now my property is worth was it was 10 years(property taxes were half as much), what happens to my current property taxes? does MOCO reduce my taxes accordingly back to 2016 value? if so, how would they survive losing 50% of their expected revenue coming in when they already need a special property tax assessment on double the revenue.

these arguments are that we should pay unrealized capital gains b/c our home values went us, surely, it will reduce similarily or that argument is just nonsense.

The odds of what you're describing is basically zero. But in the situation you describe, there would have been a mass exodus of people from the DMV that has no historical parallel (not even anything close), and in that situation, the demand for schools and services would go down also.

What if property values only went down 5 percent? Would we all save on taxes or would they raise the rate? This is the farce of Friedson’s charter amendment that changed the property tax calculation. Under the old system, the county forwent windfalls in exchange for consistency. Under the new system, the county gets the windfalls but of course it won’t accept any downside risk of falling property values.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like textbook “angry white man syndrome”. Just a standard boilerplate maga rant. “Oh, my property taxes are too high!” “You’re spending MY money on brown people!” “I’ll close my remarks by threatening you.”

Fortunately there are more than enough good and decent people in MoCo to drown out violent screaming nutjobs like that a-hole.

why is it maga? i'm not maga and my property taxes have almost increased 100% in a decade or so. why should I be happy about that.

and before you talk about home prices, we havent gotten any better services in a decade to justify 100% increase in property taxes. 51% goes to MCPS and elrich wants a special assessment on top of the increases for Capital projects.

maybe you dont care but people are fed up.

Your property taxes increased 100% because the value of your home increased 100%

… you psychopath

this isnt how property taxes work, its not an unrealized gains tax. and my property didnt increase anywhere near 100%.

this is the problem with socialists. they own nothing and they want the government to tax everyone out of their property b/c they think they'll get it

you wont

glad states are looking at if property taxes are the best want to fund. maryland will go to war to keep property taxes but they'll be plenty of states that get rid of them

This is the problem with maga they don’t know simple math.

What happened was Montgomery County did a reassessment of the value of your property. The value of my property was 350 then it was 550 then it was 750.

So yes, now I pay more property tax than when I originally bought if that’s not something in Montgomery County did.

There are no states in the United States that do not collect property tax.

so if the housing market crashes and now my property is worth was it was 10 years(property taxes were half as much), what happens to my current property taxes? does MOCO reduce my taxes accordingly back to 2016 value? if so, how would they survive losing 50% of their expected revenue coming in when they already need a special property tax assessment on double the revenue.

these arguments are that we should pay unrealized capital gains b/c our home values went us, surely, it will reduce similarily or that argument is just nonsense.

The odds of what you're describing is basically zero. But in the situation you describe, there would have been a mass exodus of people from the DMV that has no historical parallel (not even anything close), and in that situation, the demand for schools and services would go down also.

What if property values only went down 5 percent? Would we all save on taxes or would they raise the rate? This is the farce of Friedson’s charter amendment that changed the property tax calculation. Under the old system, the county forwent windfalls in exchange for consistency. Under the new system, the county gets the windfalls but of course it won’t accept any downside risk of falling property values.

For those that have been around for more than a hot minute, you might remember the housing bubble bursting around 2008. Housing lost around 18% of its value. There was no mass exodus because people were upside down on mortgages. Yes, real estate tax rates went up to ensure that the government had enough money to keep funding at the previous levels.