Looks like another lawsuit against MCPS is coming...

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Anonymous wrote:Ask the Clarksburg plaintiffs how that worked out for them. Must be nice to have money to throw away.


Clarksburg suit was dumb af. Not at all comparable. Maybe read it first?


This suit is also dumb AF. The district will start a new boundary in 2027, regardless of a lawsuit. They are allowed to do this…


The magic word you used is “start”. Fortunately, moving a boundary requires that you “finish” (as in not blocked by a judge). Although in your case it’s likely finishing too quick, just like Taylor’s 2-month conception-to-recommendation of Option H. Try thinking of baseball or your grandmother. Your significant other will appreciate it.
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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the fact that you can sue anyone for anything, whether or not there is merit. Being sued is a cost of doing business. It’s not a catastrophe.


Disparate impact is meritorious. You may not like it because Asians aren’t the “right” race to complain but governments are supposed to comply with Civil Rights law.


The loudest, most vocal and annoying demographic about this decision has been the very group that is filing this lawsuit. This lawsuit is bullshit and they know it. But they will use the Civil Rights Act, enacted on the backs of Black people, to advance their cause even if it hurts the people that gave them the right to sue. For example, see the Supreme Court affirmative action case. And I hope this bites them in the ass just like the Supreme Court decision did. Mark my word, they WILL lose.


Are you seriously implying that because civil rights act was enacted on the backs for black people, only black kids should sue MCPS for racial discrimination???

Thank you for responding with intelligence to that ignorant MAGA dummy.

So civil rights claims are just for black kids? Cool take.


That is what the PP is saying. Asians have no need for civil rights protection because they’re successful.


Read your god damn history people.
Chinese folks are the only people who have ever been legally excluded from this country. (Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882). Japanese people are the only people to ever be legally interned in this country while some their family members were fighting in a war on America behalf.

To the PP: don’t you come at me telling me that Asians don’t have civil rights concerns. F off.

Let’s not forget all the massive Asian hate with goddamn Asian grandma’s being punched in the face for no reason.

Asian families tend to be easy to pick on because we’re “quiet” and “obedient”. Those stereotypes are dead. They ain’t going to roll over on this.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the fact that you can sue anyone for anything, whether or not there is merit. Being sued is a cost of doing business. It’s not a catastrophe.


Disparate impact is meritorious. You may not like it because Asians aren’t the “right” race to complain but governments are supposed to comply with Civil Rights law.


The loudest, most vocal and annoying demographic about this decision has been the very group that is filing this lawsuit. This lawsuit is bullshit and they know it. But they will use the Civil Rights Act, enacted on the backs of Black people, to advance their cause even if it hurts the people that gave them the right to sue. For example, see the Supreme Court affirmative action case. And I hope this bites them in the ass just like the Supreme Court decision did. Mark my word, they WILL lose.


Yea just like how MCPS did amazing winning their Supreme Court lawsuit right? Last I checked, MCPS got their asses handed to them in the Supreme Court. They were so out of their depth, they hire attorneys from WilmerHale. A partner at WilmerHale charges anywhere between $1k-2k an hour… it’s likely higher given the Supreme Court attention. Your taxpayers money hard at work folks. And lol ofc MCPS lost the lawsuit, good job! You are so right MCPS is so good at litigation.

SCOTUS is not ligit if you think that you are an Anti American POS> That ruling was ridiculous and wrong. Screw anyone who thinks that lawsuit was brought by MCPS parents it was not. It was brought by America Legal First Millers group and anyone who read it would have agreed with the lower courts and not SCOTUS racist crap.

Look up the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action my friend. The landscape has completely changed. We’re finally moving away from this woke bullshit.
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Anonymous wrote:Since when is failing to provide translations into a foreign language a civil rights violation?

And perhaps families in other parts of the county should be suing over the favoritism towards the Asian families at Wootton, who are being offered a brand new school originally approved with the expectation it would benefit more Black and brown families in the Crown area.



As one of said Asians, PLEASE by all means SUE. The black and brown Gaithersburg families should 💯 sue!


Lol remember the PP above: after all, only black kids can pursue civil rights lawsuits.

We Asians don’t matter.

For real, every black and brown family in Gaithersburg should sue.


Funnily enough, I bet those black and brown families will join us Asians in our lawsuit. Minorities should stick together after all. We shouldn’t let white people speak for us. We can speak for ourselves, though it would be nice if someone provided materials in Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese. We would like to read them. Sometimes the translations are hilarious.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the fact that you can sue anyone for anything, whether or not there is merit. Being sued is a cost of doing business. It’s not a catastrophe.


Disparate impact is meritorious. You may not like it because Asians aren’t the “right” race to complain but governments are supposed to comply with Civil Rights law.


The loudest, most vocal and annoying demographic about this decision has been the very group that is filing this lawsuit. This lawsuit is bullshit and they know it. But they will use the Civil Rights Act, enacted on the backs of Black people, to advance their cause even if it hurts the people that gave them the right to sue. For example, see the Supreme Court affirmative action case. And I hope this bites them in the ass just like the Supreme Court decision did. Mark my word, they WILL lose.


Yea just like how MCPS did amazing winning their Supreme Court lawsuit right? Last I checked, MCPS got their asses handed to them in the Supreme Court. They were so out of their depth, they hire attorneys from WilmerHale. A partner at WilmerHale charges anywhere between $1k-2k an hour… it’s likely higher given the Supreme Court attention. Your taxpayers money hard at work folks. And lol ofc MCPS lost the lawsuit, good job! You are so right MCPS is so good at litigation.

SCOTUS is not ligit if you think that you are an Anti American POS> That ruling was ridiculous and wrong. Screw anyone who thinks that lawsuit was brought by MCPS parents it was not. It was brought by America Legal First Millers group and anyone who read it would have agreed with the lower courts and not SCOTUS racist crap.

Look up the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action my friend. The landscape has completely changed. We’re finally moving away from this woke bullshit.


SCREW OFF YOU POS!

That ruling was utter BS

You didn't read that court case! Not one parent had a child at MCPS. SCOTUS is garbage Utter garbage. Altio is a god dammed hack anti American racist. Thomas is a genius right lets roll back interracial marriage you fool.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just another example of the fact that you can sue anyone for anything, whether or not there is merit. Being sued is a cost of doing business. It’s not a catastrophe.


Disparate impact is meritorious. You may not like it because Asians aren’t the “right” race to complain but governments are supposed to comply with Civil Rights law.


The loudest, most vocal and annoying demographic about this decision has been the very group that is filing this lawsuit. This lawsuit is bullshit and they know it. But they will use the Civil Rights Act, enacted on the backs of Black people, to advance their cause even if it hurts the people that gave them the right to sue. For example, see the Supreme Court affirmative action case. And I hope this bites them in the ass just like the Supreme Court decision did. Mark my word, they WILL lose.


Yea just like how MCPS did amazing winning their Supreme Court lawsuit right? Last I checked, MCPS got their asses handed to them in the Supreme Court. They were so out of their depth, they hire attorneys from WilmerHale. A partner at WilmerHale charges anywhere between $1k-2k an hour… it’s likely higher given the Supreme Court attention. Your taxpayers money hard at work folks. And lol ofc MCPS lost the lawsuit, good job! You are so right MCPS is so good at litigation.

SCOTUS is not ligit if you think that you are an Anti American POS> That ruling was ridiculous and wrong. Screw anyone who thinks that lawsuit was brought by MCPS parents it was not. It was brought by America Legal First Millers group and anyone who read it would have agreed with the lower courts and not SCOTUS racist crap.

Look up the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action my friend. The landscape has completely changed. We’re finally moving away from this woke bullshit.


SCREW OFF YOU POS!

That ruling was utter BS

You didn't read that court case! Not one parent had a child at MCPS. SCOTUS is garbage Utter garbage. Altio is a god dammed hack anti American racist. Thomas is a genius right lets roll back interracial marriage you fool.



So the Supremely Court is legitimate only if it rules the way you want? Good to know you believe in our civic institutions. Perhaps you could benefit from some remedial education? I hear MCPS has some great programs. They’ll save you a seat at Crown.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Since when is failing to provide translations into a foreign language a civil rights violation?

And perhaps families in other parts of the county should be suing over the favoritism towards the Asian families at Wootton, who are being offered a brand new school originally approved with the expectation it would benefit more Black and brown families in the Crown area.



As one of said Asians, PLEASE by all means SUE. The black and brown Gaithersburg families should 💯 sue!


Lol remember the PP above: after all, only black kids can pursue civil rights lawsuits.

We Asians don’t matter.

For real, every black and brown family in Gaithersburg should sue.


Funnily enough, I bet those black and brown families will join us Asians in our lawsuit. Minorities should stick together after all. We shouldn’t let white people speak for us. We can speak for ourselves, though it would be nice if someone provided materials in Chinese, Vietnamese and Japanese. We would like to read them. Sometimes the translations are hilarious.


On behalf of ALLLLLLL the Black people, no, we should not stick together. How convenient to want to use us just to push your agenda. No thanks. Ask a translator what I said.
Anonymous
Really weird that of the 1200 responses from the Wootton cluster that 486 of them came from the Asian population that is now trying to say they didn’t understand and didn’t get communication in their languages. In fact, that was the highest response rate to the second round of surveys.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Ask the Clarksburg plaintiffs how that worked out for them. Must be nice to have money to throw away.


Clarksburg suit was dumb af. Not at all comparable. Maybe read it first?


This suit is also dumb AF. The district will start a new boundary in 2027, regardless of a lawsuit. They are allowed to do this…


The magic word you used is “start”. Fortunately, moving a boundary requires that you “finish” (as in not blocked by a judge). Although in your case it’s likely finishing too quick, just like Taylor’s 2-month conception-to-recommendation of Option H. Try thinking of baseball or your grandmother. Your significant other will appreciate it.


A judge is not going to block this.
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Anonymous wrote:To claim there's a significant Limited English Proficiency population at Wootton, won't they need plaintiffs that demonstrate that? I know people are desperate, but are that desperate to mock and perjure themselves in court?


Wootton is 40% Asian. Many parents rely on Google Translate to hope they get the translation right. Tons of first generation Asians and immigrants in the Wootton community.

And again, federal and state complaints aren’t lawsuits. There are no plaintiffs, just complainants. Anyone can be a complainant, including random Joe or teacher A.

State and federal investigators would swoop in


Investigators? Swoop in? You've got quite the imagination.


Have you met Harmeet Dillon, head of DOJ Civil Rights Division of the DOJ? Her team has swooped in for far less events.

This situation could be a very easy way for the White House to bash a large blue county right in Trump’s backyard - especially one represented by Jamie Raskin (one of nemeses who led his impeachment). Also, don’t forget Trump is a builder and would love to bash MCPS over building a $300m school nobody needed and is closing a top school to cover up its incompetence. The recent shooting might also get some mention….

Seems like a story with a great political angle for an election year.


Do you think the average Montgomery County resident cares if Trump "bashes" the County? I'm opposed to H, but honestly, I think looking to this federal administration for support is the wrong move if you want the decision makers to reconsider. Even I might start supporting H if Trump comes out against it.
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Anonymous wrote:To claim there's a significant Limited English Proficiency population at Wootton, won't they need plaintiffs that demonstrate that? I know people are desperate, but are that desperate to mock and perjure themselves in court?


Thank you. Out of one side of their mouth, “We are the smartest demographic at Wootton and if it wasn’t for us, Wootton wouldn’t have its outstanding reputation!” And then out of the other side of their mouth, “We are too illiterate and dumb to understand the boundary process!”

Pick a position and stick to it


If you knew Wootton, this actually makes sense. Predominately Asian, lots of Asian immigrants.

Having been raised by Asian immigrants, I’m not joking when I say excelling in school wasn’t optional. Tiger parenting is real.

That said, my parents to this day barely speak English but they sure knew the difference between As and Bs on report cards and 1500 vs 1400 on the SAT.


This is all real, but the question is whether it is true of families who attend Wootton in particular. Asian American is a big basket, and in general, Asian immigrants in the DMV tend to be highly skilled professionals who are also fluent in English.

The EML rate at Wootton is so low that it cannot be measured. The same is true for both feeder middle schools. Cold Spring ES is famously the most AAPI elementary school, and ALSO has a EML rate so low that it cannot be measured.

These are not the data points that would suggest a large number of students whose parents cannot interact in English language environments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Really weird that of the 1200 responses from the Wootton cluster that 486 of them came from the Asian population that is now trying to say they didn’t understand and didn’t get communication in their languages. In fact, that was the highest response rate to the second round of surveys.


Some Asians speak and read English. Many do not, especially out parents. Racist much? Or maybe you’re one of those white people who think minorities need your help. We don’t.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Ask the Clarksburg plaintiffs how that worked out for them. Must be nice to have money to throw away.


Clarksburg suit was dumb af. Not at all comparable. Maybe read it first?


This suit is also dumb AF. The district will start a new boundary in 2027, regardless of a lawsuit. They are allowed to do this…


The magic word you used is “start”. Fortunately, moving a boundary requires that you “finish” (as in not blocked by a judge). Although in your case it’s likely finishing too quick, just like Taylor’s 2-month conception-to-recommendation of Option H. Try thinking of baseball or your grandmother. Your significant other will appreciate it.


A judge is not going to block this.


According to your magic 8 ball? Shake it again and focus really hard. You can do it!
Anonymous
I hope there is proof somewhere that translations were 1) requested and 2) declined.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To claim there's a significant Limited English Proficiency population at Wootton, won't they need plaintiffs that demonstrate that? I know people are desperate, but are that desperate to mock and perjure themselves in court?


Thank you. Out of one side of their mouth, “We are the smartest demographic at Wootton and if it wasn’t for us, Wootton wouldn’t have its outstanding reputation!” And then out of the other side of their mouth, “We are too illiterate and dumb to understand the boundary process!”

Pick a position and stick to it


If you knew Wootton, this actually makes sense. Predominately Asian, lots of Asian immigrants.

Having been raised by Asian immigrants, I’m not joking when I say excelling in school wasn’t optional. Tiger parenting is real.

That said, my parents to this day barely speak English but they sure knew the difference between As and Bs on report cards and 1500 vs 1400 on the SAT.


This is all real, but the question is whether it is true of families who attend Wootton in particular. Asian American is a big basket, and in general, Asian immigrants in the DMV tend to be highly skilled professionals who are also fluent in English.

The EML rate at Wootton is so low that it cannot be measured. The same is true for both feeder middle schools. Cold Spring ES is famously the most AAPI elementary school, and ALSO has a EML rate so low that it cannot be measured.

These are not the data points that would suggest a large number of students whose parents cannot interact in English language environments.


Bruh are you ok? EML measures the English proficiency of the child??? Not the parent?

Most Asian kids in the Wootton area speak English natively and fluently.

Their parents, like mine, don’t. They may have working understanding but they certainly aren’t going to understand complex boundaries options.

JFC MCPS makes everything so hard to understand, native speakers had to read and re-read the damn tables and charts to even understand options.

Now add on the fact that H came late and to the surprise of everyone AND over the holidays…without translation.

Taylor had the time to meet with schools like Damascus, but he doesn’t have time for Wootton, when the Wootton community is most impacted by H.

It took a god damn school shooting for him to meet us Wootton parents, at a meeting that btw we as parents couldn’t even ask questions of!
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