When DCUM was wrong ..

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Anonymous wrote:I visit DCUM only to marvel at the narcissistic parenting. These parents make college admissions (and everything else their kid does) all about them. It can be jaw dropping how dysfunctional and weird and sad it is to read. It's utterly fascinating.

And it’s weird because these people (the T20 or bust/your kid doesn’t belong in college people) really think they have it all figured out. Meanwhile, I think the sane people are just reading this stuff like WTF and using them as examples of how not to parent. And their responses will be “well at least my kids aren’t losers! Or dumb!” Like nah, you can raise smart and sane kids without jumping on the crazy hamster wheel.

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There is at least one weird LAC hater. I don't get that. There is also someone with weird misconceptions about women's colleges. And don't even get me started on the weird wrong things people think about HYP.

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The meanness and hard opinions are usually emotion management strategies. These posters are anxious, and eager for hard-and-fast rules, because if the rules are firm, then the world is predictable.

We can just wish them gentler emotions or more effective tools.

Anyway, congrats, OP. My spouse went to Williams and thought it was an incredible education.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting, OP and congrats to your kid. It's really discouraging reading this board sometimes.

I do think that there's just a big lottery effect to all of these schools. So of course there will be some great kids with great stats that lose that lottery, and some that win. My oldest was lucky to get ED to their first choice school, but their good friend--who was an amazing kid with similarly great stats and maybe better ECs--got rejection after rejection. It was really hard just as a friend-mom watching that kid take the blows and not get too discouraged. They were just really unlucky with the spin of the wheel.

OP Agree. And that's why when people ask, how did they get in? I mean .. who knows. A human on the other side was having a good day and liked one line in a LOR? Or they were also in 4H or Debate or a platform diver when they were in high school? Or maybe they always hated those girls in choir. Until AI totally takes over, nobody knows. People who say they know, don't know.

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one weird LAC hater. I don't get that. There is also someone with weird misconceptions about women's colleges. And don't even get me started on the weird wrong things people think about HYP.

I think a lot of people on DCUM are just emotionally stunted. Like they really can’t comprehend that someone else has different priorities or preferences. So they demonize anyone who disagrees with them or prioritizes different things. It’s not just colleges. It’s everything. McLean vs Vienna. Bethesda vs Chevy Chase. AP vs IB. Staying home vs working. Traveling to X vs Y. Private vs public. Etc, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

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Anonymous wrote:There is at least one weird LAC hater. I don't get that. There is also someone with weird misconceptions about women's colleges. And don't even get me started on the weird wrong things people think about HYP.

I think a lot of people on DCUM are just emotionally stunted. Like they really can’t comprehend that someone else has different priorities or preferences. So they demonize anyone who disagrees with them or prioritizes different things. It’s not just colleges. It’s everything. McLean vs Vienna. Bethesda vs Chevy Chase. AP vs IB. Staying home vs working. Traveling to X vs Y. Private vs public. Etc, etc.

Everything you said there just is tribalism. Shocking that people take sides on an anonymous board.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

What differences do those make? Stanford and UCB were to be affiliated in the same way, does it change Stanford in any substantive manner?

I view state funding as a benefit, not a drawback.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

What differences do those make? Stanford and UCB were to be affiliated in the same way, does it change Stanford in any substantive manner?

I view state funding as a benefit, not a drawback.

Poster you are responding to. I see state funding as a benefit at well. I dont see why being affiliated with SUNY is bad. Infact, Bing is a very good school. Why are you comparing stanford to cornell. Stanford is 1/3 the size of cornell and has no state affiliation. More than half of Cornell is SUNY affliated so why is it offensive when anyone points that out.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

What differences do those make? Stanford and UCB were to be affiliated in the same way, does it change Stanford in any substantive manner?

I view state funding as a benefit, not a drawback.

Poster you are responding to. I see state funding as a benefit at well. I dont see why being affiliated with SUNY is bad. Infact, Bing is a very good school. Why are you comparing stanford to cornell. Stanford is 1/3 the size of cornell and has no state affiliation. More than half of Cornell is SUNY affliated so why is it offensive when anyone points that out.

NP, I think this is just a thread where people like to gloat and say they are right — when they are wrong all along.
Unwise for unhooked to apply ED to Williams when could use your ED card elsewhere.
UVA likes 4 years of foreign language.
There is an advantage for New York students at state supported Cornell schools.
All of this is correct.
The only DCUM posters who do not seem to know what they are talking about are on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is pretty much always wrong

People talk a lot about probabilities on this site.
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? People on this site don’t understand probabilistic thinking at all. Look at the thousands of comments where someone says “most students don’t X or Y” and are responded to with “my kid did X or Y.” Like, yeah, no one said it was 100% the case, your single anecdote doesn’t mean anything.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

What differences do those make? Stanford and UCB were to be affiliated in the same way, does it change Stanford in any substantive manner?

I view state funding as a benefit, not a drawback.

Poster you are responding to. I see state funding as a benefit at well. I dont see why being affiliated with SUNY is bad. Infact, Bing is a very good school. Why are you comparing stanford to cornell. Stanford is 1/3 the size of cornell and has no state affiliation. More than half of Cornell is SUNY affliated so why is it offensive when anyone points that out.

NP, I think this is just a thread where people like to gloat and say they are right — when they are wrong all along.
Unwise for unhooked to apply ED to Williams when could use your ED card elsewhere.
UVA likes 4 years of foreign language.
There is an advantage for New York students at state supported Cornell schools.
All of this is correct.
The only DCUM posters who do not seem to know what they are talking about are on this thread.

how is it wise to ED to a school that isn't your first choice?

there's no admission advantage for a NY kid applying to any school at Cornell. they make this very clear. it's 70k for us, that's true.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is almost always wrong about Cornell and they have a weird take about NY kids getting into Cornell "because it's a a SUNY" and they also sometimes think it's a state-level tuition.

The contracted colleges at Cornell give about a 20k break to NYers - so 70k vs 90k - and there's zero benefit to being "in-state". Zero.

But it's said 100% of the time.

33% of undergrad population at Cornell is from NY State. It is an advantage to be from NY.

40% of Stanford is from CA, no one calls it UC Palo Alto. You really don’t see what is going on?

Four of the Cornell colleges are SUNY affliliated and recieve NY state funding.

What differences do those make? Stanford and UCB were to be affiliated in the same way, does it change Stanford in any substantive manner?

I view state funding as a benefit, not a drawback.

Poster you are responding to. I see state funding as a benefit at well. I dont see why being affiliated with SUNY is bad. Infact, Bing is a very good school. Why are you comparing stanford to cornell. Stanford is 1/3 the size of cornell and has no state affiliation. More than half of Cornell is SUNY affliated so why is it offensive when anyone points that out.

NP, I think this is just a thread where people like to gloat and say they are right — when they are wrong all along.
Unwise for unhooked to apply ED to Williams when could use your ED card elsewhere.
UVA likes 4 years of foreign language.
There is an advantage for New York students at state supported Cornell schools.
All of this is correct.
The only DCUM posters who do not seem to know what they are talking about are on this thread.

This has been repeated a million times but they never offer ANY evidence for that. Not a single piece of evidence.