NYT Times interview with Brian Kohlberger’s sister

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Anonymous wrote:Why would she do this interview? Seems like she’s just in it for the money.

What money? The NYT does not pay for interviews. That said, she should not have done it. It didn’t help her family plus her alternative look does not lend itself to sympathy.

She’s speaking her truth and has the right to do so. She never helped her brother commit crimes and doesn’t defend him and feels terribly for the victims. And yes the NY Times doesn’t pay for interviews. Only tabloids like the Daily Mail do stuff like that.

You don't know how truthful she's being. In particular, you don't know what details she is withholding.

And you have no basis for saying she is withholding anything. See how that works.

Go write some fan fiction. it would be healthier for you.

She's absolutely withholding. We just don't know what she won't say. Maybe it's interesting and relevant, maybe it isn't.

How do you know?

Did you bother to read the article?

Yes. I have no idea what you are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

This. People still going on about this case and condemning the sister are nutters.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would she do this interview? Seems like she’s just in it for the money.

What money? The NYT does not pay for interviews. That said, she should not have done it. It didn’t help her family plus her alternative look does not lend itself to sympathy.

She’s speaking her truth and has the right to do so. She never helped her brother commit crimes and doesn’t defend him and feels terribly for the victims. And yes the NY Times doesn’t pay for interviews. Only tabloids like the Daily Mail do stuff like that.

You don't know how truthful she's being. In particular, you don't know what details she is withholding.

And you have no basis for saying she is withholding anything. See how that works.

Go write some fan fiction. it would be healthier for you.

She's absolutely withholding. We just don't know what she won't say. Maybe it's interesting and relevant, maybe it isn't.

How do you know?

Did you bother to read the article?

Yes. I have no idea what you are talking about.

She still refuses to talk about the murders themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

This. Their responsibility was to answer the authorities truthfully, not to tell the public every weird feeling or suspicion they had about their family member.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

I'll believe that if they ever explain: 1) why they father flew out to drive back with him, and 2) why they were keeping the car parked in the garage.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

I'll believe that if they ever explain: 1) why they father flew out to drive back with him, and 2) why they were keeping the car parked in the garage.

I'm not particularly familiar with this case, so could be missing context, but those seem like fairly mundane things.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

This. People still going on about this case and condemning the sister are nutters.

NP.

The real “nutter” here appears to be the sister. She’s nearly as crazy as Brian.

But they did grow up together so it’s not too surprising.

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The blue hair is a dead giveaway.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

You really think if police don’t charge someone, it means they’re innocent? Do you know how many cases are ultimately solved with DNA but we learn that for decades, before they could use/test DNA, the police suspected the person? They just didn’t have enough evidence to charge.

I think that’s the case here. They suspect the family knew but can’t PROVE that they knew.

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Anonymous wrote:And the killer is in a Ph.D. program and decides to drive home for winter break and has his father fly to Washington so they could drive across country together. But they take the long way home because there are news reports to be on the lookout for that type of car.

It might be understandable for summer break but it makes no sense for winter break when he has to drive back to school. It would make more sense for him to fly home. And what do they do with the car. They put the college kid's car in the garage to hide it.

It is despicable the NYT article that is sympathetic. The family knows more and isn't saying anything to help the grieving families.

I would really like to know what some of you weirdos think his family owes the victims' families? There is nothing they can say or do to bring those kids back. The victim's parents probably want on the guy's family as well as all you weirdo strangers on the internet to shut their mouths and leave it alone.

They owe the family answers to why he called his mother the day of the murders and spoke for hours. What did they speak about?

Or they owe the family silence. If they aren’t going to say anything helpful to the families then say nothing about the case.

But to try to get sympathy about their situation when their family member killed 4 people in cold blood? Absolutely despicable.

Absolutely not. You condemning the family members for the actions of another person is despicable. They didn't kill anyone. They didn't hurt anyone. The way the public crucifies the families in these situations in despicable. The world in the age of social media has gone mad. Check yourself, you psycho.

Why on earth are you so worked up? We’re discussing a NYT article. “Despicable”? “Psycho”? For giving an opinion on the article and family on an Internet forum?

What vocabulary words would you use to describe what Kohberger did?

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I followed this case a few years ago, and it was said Brian wanted to drive his car to PA for Christmas so he could transport some items from the family home back to his apartment. This sounds very plausible to me, as we often drive, instead of fly, to take items our kid left at home to their new apartment.

Also, I'm sure after some difficult years of Brian not fitting in and fighting addiction, the parents probably thought things were looking up, with him getting into a PhD program. If the dad is retired, I can totally understand him wanting to fly out and help with the long drive back to PA. It's safer with 2 drivers and lots of hours for quality time to chat with your adult son.

I saw the video of the police stop for Brian following a car too closely. The Dad looks relaxed and says they are both feeling "punchy" from driving for hours. He's chit chatting the cop, telling him what they plan to eat for lunch. Nothing suspicious to me. Meanwhile, Brian looks like a cornered animal. I'm sure he thought the police were on to him and he was about to get arrested. Meanwhile he's shooting daggers at his Dad for continuing to talk to the cop (who was at the passenger window).

Once home, putting a car in the garage is normal. When I visit my son, we put my new car in his garage and leave his old run-down car in the driveway in case of vandalism or theft. If snow is in the forecast, we put the car we plan to drive in the garage and park the extra car off to the side.

If Brian was walking around the house with gloves and the family took it in stride, I would say he's had quirky habits in the past and they just shrugged it off. If it was completely new and weird, I'd wonder if my kid was developing OCD, but I would never jump to "he just committed a murder".

From Brian's perspective, I think he was perhaps worried about exactly what happened - police getting his DNA from household trash. Yes, him putting some trash in the neighbor's can was probably him hoping the cops wouldn't look there. He didn't realize they were already watching the house and saw this. But I've never heard that his parents saw him using the neighbor's trash can.

Back to the morning of the murder, I do not find it odd that he called his mother. If a person has just done a really bad thing like murder, their stress level is off the charts and they are probably in need of some regulation. Calling mom is a form of comfort, trying to feel normal again. Maybe even worried if you get arrested, this could be the last time you talk to her when she thinks everything is fine.

From her POV, it may have been normal for her loner kid to call her when he needed some connection. Her biggest worry was probably that he might use drugs again, or that he was having personality issues with his professors or fellow students. So if he wants to talk at 6am, then she's going to be there for him. After Alex Murdaugh killed his wife and son, he drove right to his mother's house. Moms represent comfort and safety.

I highly doubt Brian confessed to her that morning. Certainly she would have told her husband, and Dad wouldn't have been so chipper and it's doubtful he would get in a car with a murderer. Brian wanted to do the perfect crime and get away with it. I think he planned it months in advance.

And in the winter if you are crossing the country, don't you take the southern route, even if it's a bit longer, to avoid icy driving conditions on a northern route? Again, something I have done more than once in January.

The sister provided nothing of value with this interview. I didn't want to hear about them celebrating Brian's birthday with a cake and candles or giving him a paper heart to hold in court (why was that allowed?). For someone who was about to get a job providing mental health counseling, she came across as very clueless. Making the argument that Brian wasn't violent by saying he held her hands back to de-escalate a fight between them kind of said the opposite. That they were both getting physical and he used his strength to overpower her. So they both come to blows over something? Sounds very dysfunctional.

I'm sure it's traumatic to find out a family member has committed a crime that's all over the national news and to have reporters staking out your house and to have the social media crowd accusing your family of knowing and trying to hide it. And imagine the PTSD the parents feel from having a SWAT team breaking their windows at 2am and coming in guns blazing then carting off your son in handcuffs. And you were sleeping, maybe not fully dressed and suddenly have lights in your face and flashbangs ringing in your ears. And then to realize your son murdered 4 lovely young college students and will now serve life in prison. My God, their stress levels must be off the charts.

But not as much as 4 families who have no answer as to why their beautiful children had to suffer such a horrible death. Their grief will never end. And Miss mental health counselor with the edgy blue hair thinks it's ok for these families to hear that she loves her brother and will blow out his birthday candles since he can't be there. Just ick. Go away. And take my kid's birthday reminder out of your digital calendar.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

This. People still going on about this case and condemning the sister are nutters.

NP.

The real “nutter” here appears to be the sister. She’s nearly as crazy as Brian.

But they did grow up together so it’s not too surprising.

She's completely hiding behind the "I don't want to say anything to further hurt the victims' families" shield. She knows stuff, and she's not going to be forthright. She should stop speaking at all about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a hard time believing that the cops didn't extensively interrogate the parents about their interactions with him after the murders, and that if there was ANY indication they knew he was the killer and acted to help him conceal his crime or hid from the police, they wouldn't be charged.

The idea that the police just let it go because he pled guilty doesn't make sense. Aiding and abetting a murderer after the fact is a serious crime and if they had evidence that the family did this, I think they'd be charging them even with the guilty plea. In part because of what people are saying here -- if the parents helped him try to get away with it, that does real harm to the families of the victims.

Which leads me to conclude that the evidence simply doesn't support this hypothetical. The family may be deeply imperfect, there may have been signs they missed, they may even have understood on some level that things were not quite right, but I really don't think they knew and I definitely don't think they tried to help him get away with it.

I'll believe that if they ever explain: 1) why they father flew out to drive back with him, and 2) why they were keeping the car parked in the garage.

I'm not particularly familiar with this case, so could be missing context, but those seem like fairly mundane things.

You're trying too hard for someone so unfamiliar with this case.

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Anonymous wrote:I followed this case a few years ago, and it was said Brian wanted to drive his car to PA for Christmas so he could transport some items from the family home back to his apartment. This sounds very plausible to me, as we often drive, instead of fly, to take items our kid left at home to their new apartment.

Also, I'm sure after some difficult years of Brian not fitting in and fighting addiction, the parents probably thought things were looking up, with him getting into a PhD program. If the dad is retired, I can totally understand him wanting to fly out and help with the long drive back to PA. It's safer with 2 drivers and lots of hours for quality time to chat with your adult son.

I saw the video of the police stop for Brian following a car too closely. The Dad looks relaxed and says they are both feeling "punchy" from driving for hours. He's chit chatting the cop, telling him what they plan to eat for lunch. Nothing suspicious to me. Meanwhile, Brian looks like a cornered animal. I'm sure he thought the police were on to him and he was about to get arrested. Meanwhile he's shooting daggers at his Dad for continuing to talk to the cop (who was at the passenger window).

Once home, putting a car in the garage is normal. When I visit my son, we put my new car in his garage and leave his old run-down car in the driveway in case of vandalism or theft. If snow is in the forecast, we put the car we plan to drive in the garage and park the extra car off to the side.

If Brian was walking around the house with gloves and the family took it in stride, I would say he's had quirky habits in the past and they just shrugged it off. If it was completely new and weird, I'd wonder if my kid was developing OCD, but I would never jump to "he just committed a murder".

From Brian's perspective, I think he was perhaps worried about exactly what happened - police getting his DNA from household trash. Yes, him putting some trash in the neighbor's can was probably him hoping the cops wouldn't look there. He didn't realize they were already watching the house and saw this. But I've never heard that his parents saw him using the neighbor's trash can.

Back to the morning of the murder, I do not find it odd that he called his mother. If a person has just done a really bad thing like murder, their stress level is off the charts and they are probably in need of some regulation. Calling mom is a form of comfort, trying to feel normal again. Maybe even worried if you get arrested, this could be the last time you talk to her when she thinks everything is fine.

From her POV, it may have been normal for her loner kid to call her when he needed some connection. Her biggest worry was probably that he might use drugs again, or that he was having personality issues with his professors or fellow students. So if he wants to talk at 6am, then she's going to be there for him. After Alex Murdaugh killed his wife and son, he drove right to his mother's house. Moms represent comfort and safety.

I highly doubt Brian confessed to her that morning. Certainly she would have told her husband, and Dad wouldn't have been so chipper and it's doubtful he would get in a car with a murderer. Brian wanted to do the perfect crime and get away with it. I think he planned it months in advance.

And in the winter if you are crossing the country, don't you take the southern route, even if it's a bit longer, to avoid icy driving conditions on a northern route? Again, something I have done more than once in January.

The sister provided nothing of value with this interview. I didn't want to hear about them celebrating Brian's birthday with a cake and candles or giving him a paper heart to hold in court (why was that allowed?). For someone who was about to get a job providing mental health counseling, she came across as very clueless. Making the argument that Brian wasn't violent by saying he held her hands back to de-escalate a fight between them kind of said the opposite. That they were both getting physical and he used his strength to overpower her. So they both come to blows over something? Sounds very dysfunctional.

I'm sure it's traumatic to find out a family member has committed a crime that's all over the national news and to have reporters staking out your house and to have the social media crowd accusing your family of knowing and trying to hide it. And imagine the PTSD the parents feel from having a SWAT team breaking their windows at 2am and coming in guns blazing then carting off your son in handcuffs. And you were sleeping, maybe not fully dressed and suddenly have lights in your face and flashbangs ringing in your ears. And then to realize your son murdered 4 lovely young college students and will now serve life in prison. My God, their stress levels must be off the charts.

But not as much as 4 families who have no answer as to why their beautiful children had to suffer such a horrible death. Their grief will never end. And Miss mental health counselor with the edgy blue hair thinks it's ok for these families to hear that she loves her brother and will blow out his birthday candles since he can't be there. Just ick. Go away. And take my kid's birthday reminder out of your digital calendar.

I agree with every bit of this. Including not understanding what the point of her doing this interview was.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this basically the story of Rob Reiner's son, except that one is more acceptable because he turned on his own parents, making the family more sympathetic?

Yes, and I wonder if either Brian or Nick were in Special Ed.

Well, that's quite a stretch isn't it? To be fair, 99.999% of special ed students do not become murderers. Let's at least use common sense in this discussion and not vilify huge groups of innocent individuals.

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Stephen Paddock, who killed 50+ people in a mass shooting in Las Vegas, had no discernible mental illness-he just wanted to be famous (infamous.)

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna964066

Lacking any empathy or compassion for human life is most certainly a mental illness.

You’re speaking with the hindsight of someone who knows that he shot at 900 people. He was never a “special ed student,” as some moron poster above was trying to draw a link between having special needs and shooting at people to kill.