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A major reason I don't think the family knew or tried to help him get away with it is that I have a brother who has mental health and addiction issues, and all the details that people seem to think should have ensured the family knew he was the shooter are things that could happen in my family today and be considered normal. An early morning phone call where he seems stressed and dysregulated? Totally normal, unfortunately. My parents driving cross country to facilitate something with his car that seems like it could be handled better another way? Also not really out of the ordinary. Jumpy behavior, strange habits, and the family not asking too many questions about them because he is likely to get upset and turn it into a fight? Yes, of course.
I'll also note my family is pretty imperfect. My mom is really controlling. My dad has a bad temper. There was abuse in my house growing up. I think everyone has mental health issues of some kind, including me, and if you met me you'd think I seemed like a very together, successful person. But if a member of my family commit a horrible crime, I am sure people would look at all this and judge it all and say "come on, of course you knew" or whatever. Yet no one in my family has committed any crime at all that I'm aware of (even my brother with addiction issues is just an alcoholic -- I don't think he even uses illegal drugs) and I would be shocked and horrified to find out they had. There are lots and lots of dysfunctional and mentally ill people in the world who are not mass murderers (thank god). They have family, and their families have acclimated to sometimes odd and troubling behavior as being normal for that person. What some of you are viewing as dramatic red flags that any one would have known was a sign of guilt here are, for lots of families, just their every day. |
The way internet sleuths treat all the families, the families of the victims and the families of the perpetrators, as some sort of entertainment for themselves is perverse. No one owes any of you a single thing, not one iota of information to satisfy your sick curiosity. You don't get to convict the family of the perpetrator based on your gut feelings. You don't get to speak for the families of the victims. Unless you are directly tied to these people in some way, these people are none of your business. If all you weirdos with your page long dissertations on this case would leave the perpetrators family be, they would never feel the need to give an interview like this. The guy is in jail for the rest of his life as he should be. That's it. Leave the families on both sides to their grief. |
I have read that the father already had plans to drive back with him before the murders happened. That could be confirmed by when he bought the plane ticket. I’m not sure if they ever explained why, but maybe he wanted his car to use at home over the break. In fact it seems dumb to drive the car around across country knowing it was under suspicion in a crime, so I don’t think the dad was hiding something. |
The sister actually touched on this in her interview, where she said she used to like “true crime” but now realizes how the true crime genre dehumanizes the people involved. I agree with you as far as, say, calling her place of work and getting her terminated. That’s too far. People have too much time on their hands. (I do think she should re-think her career, as no one is going to trust the sibling of a depraved murderer with blue hair to give out quality mental counseling). I disagree with you that the general public has a “sick curiosity”. It’s human nature to want to understand why he did this and what sort of family life / personality could lead to this. I also disagree with you that you can lump the families of victims and perpetrators together in terms of suffering. My stepbrother was murdered at 16 in a school shooting. That was nearly 20 years ago. My stepmother will suffer for the rest of her life. She will never ever recover from it. This guy’s family can visit him in jail, keep up a relationship. It’s not the same. |
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OK, new poster here. I will admit that when I clicked over and saw her picture I thought, oh, that's unfortunate. The heavy eye makeup, the haircut, the blue, the pose - it does sort of fit a stereotype. Very awkward.
But is it one poster who keeps going on and on about the blue hair? Frankly that seems a little unhinged. Maybe more than one person has commented but there's certainly someone who is taking this a little off the rails. |
| I am sure her family continues to get a lot of heat for the murders. She did the interview to put a positive spin on the family. The parents are loving. They were brought up to be loyal and do the right thing. She wants to make sure anyone reading the article knows that they are good people and knew nothing. As a pp said, this is probably impacting their job prospects. This is self-preservation. |
If you read the NY Times article, you'll see that she was just graduating when her brother was arrested and had a job offer as a counselor, which was withdrawn because the employer got a lot of calls with 'concerns' about her hiring. |
As one of the PPs, thanks, this sounds pretty reasonable. I still think that the early morning call, the last-minute cross-country drive, and the garage parking were all weird, but this family seems pretty oblivious. I think you're probably right that they would have accepted any excuse he gave. |
A poor attempt... This certainly didn't help. I can't be too critical of the NYT, though. I'm sure they did a hard sell, but this was a very sympathetic article given all the topics they apparently agreed not to cover. But it still isn't a good look for the family. |
Different people will feel comfortable with different therapists. If you don't follow normal conventions, the sister's appearance and background might give you comfort that she's not one to judge. Admittedly, I find it a little off-putting, but I don't think everyone would. |
I can’t imagine what help she could provide when she couldn’t recognize trouble in her own family. |
She wasn't her brother's therapist and in fact therapists are not supposed to treat family members specifically because it is accepted that your personal connection and history with them would cloud your ability to help them in a professional capacity. Also it is not the job of a therapist to "recognize trouble." No one knows why Brian did what he did. He might not even know. It is natural for people to want to impose some kind of order on a crime like this that will make you feel like it could never happen to you or someone you love. You want to believe that if you were in the sister's shoes, that you would have known what her brother was going to do and could have prevented it, or would have seen his guilt and figured it out and turned him in. But the truth is you probably wouldn't have. And that freaks you out. |
He apparently frequently called his mom as early as 4 am. I think it's odd behavior, but it doesn't sound like it was out of the ordinary for him at all. |
+1, he was obviously a troubled guy who engaged in some strange or frustrating behavior, but it's wild some people seem to to think that if you had a son call you at 6am, your first thought would be "oh my kid you murdered someone." Of course it wouldn't be, even if you knew your son had problems. |
I have a disturbed brother. Nothing would shock me. I’m not a therapist and also not out to lunch. There were problems in the Kohberger family. Look at the type of people who go into mental health for starters, they always have a ton of baggage. |