Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions

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my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

The way white people use woke needs to stop, just go back to social justice warrior, because woke actually means to be aware of the deep state and the tricks that they play, sounds alot like maga , doesn't it

It may have meant that once upon a time then the far left turned it into a derogatory term.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Some of the country’s most prestigious colleges are enrolling record numbers of low-income students — a growing admissions priority in the absence of affirmative.

https://apnews.com/article/college-admissions-affirmative-action-scholarships-pell-0cdef1e68ccc2c6d743dcd26817e73ee" target="_new" rel="nofollow"> https://apnews.com/article/college-admissions-affirmative-action-scholarships-pell-0cdef1e68ccc2c6d743dcd26817e73ee

That’s fantastic; that’s what any sort of affirmative action should always have been targeted at.

It depends. If the preference is slight to moderate, it could be OK but if the preference is too great, it's bad for everyone.

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Meritocracy is dead

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Anonymous wrote:This will work out fine because a lot of rich whites don't want to send their kids to these schools just to subsidize other poor kids. They will be at large southern universities.

The only rich people sending their kids to southern schools are southerners. The economy has shifted and there are a lot of poor whites in the rust belt and a lot of rich whites in the sun belt.

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

People who ignorantly regurgitate MAGA dogma from Fox News are the worst.

Note that I don't love extreme wokeness and believe DEI went overboard. But MAGA virtue signaling that you are falling in line with the party line is worse. If Trump told you to stick your head up your butt you would do it. No questions asked.

Even the top AI guys say humanities/critical thinking is what is needed for AI jobs.

Humanities does not necessarily = critical thinking.
Ethnic studies probably /= critical thinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:Howard University, which is a federal charactered school should be given a 30 billion dollar endowment

Why?

And by who?

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

The way white people use woke needs to stop, just go back to social justice warrior, because woke actually means to be aware of the deep state and the tricks that they play, sounds alot like maga , doesn't it

Any white person using "woke" is ignored.

Any white person NOT using woke is ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:This will work out fine because a lot of rich whites don't want to send their kids to these schools just to subsidize other poor kids. They will be at large southern universities.

Doubtful

Wait and see. A lot of smart wealthy kids have zero interest in the cold, boring northeast where fun goes to die where they are just viewed as a piggy bank. Their parents agree.

Nah. If the smart wealthy kids flee it will be to elite SLAC which are still in the northeast

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

It gave us JD Vance.

He went to Ohio State on the GI Bill, did really well there, & got in Yale Law based on grades & LSAT. Where was the Affirmative Action?

I say this as a military spouse (and both of us are lawyers), there’s absolutely AA in law school for veterans.

I don’t consider it affirmative action. Veterans absolutely have a special set of skills and work ethic earned and learned from their time in the service and that is taken into consideration for acceptance.

Veterans preferences are usually considred "earned preferences" If you kid is getting a preference because youa re a veteran, that is an unearned preference.

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Anonymous wrote:Sometimes it feels like these elite institutions could simply reserve 25% of their spots for low-SES students and leave the remaining 75% for everyone else—without all the extra theatrics—focusing on academics for the sake of academics, rather than acting like exclusive social hubs for the wealthy. Instead, what’s happening now sends a discouraging message: you can work incredibly hard, but if your family is neither poor enough nor rich enough—the situation most students fall into—there’s no place for you. Not poor enough to inspire institutional sympathy, not wealthy enough to offer “network value.” It makes you wonder what the purpose of an elite college even is anymore.

And again, how much do these elitists want to drain the average people's time, money and energy...They work so hard to be exclusive so they can keep the wealthy 1% to themselves, and make sure the rest are poor FOEVER

You sound like you feel that people have a right to seats, but you don’t. Top schools have never been about peak academics and they have every right to admit according to their priorities, not yours.

As long as those priorities don't include race.

If they do, then they should be stripped of their tax exempt status.

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

Asian numbers aren’t rising to 50%. Too much backlash and not in line with institutional priorities.

It's because these are not technical schools. They will never admit a cohort that is 90%+ STEM focused.

Most asian undergrads are NOT focused. Less than 40% of asian undergrads are in a stem major. They are overrepresented in STEM but the majority are not STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

It gave us JD Vance.

He went to Ohio State on the GI Bill, did really well there, & got in Yale Law based on grades & LSAT. Where was the Affirmative Action?

I say this as a military spouse (and both of us are lawyers), there’s absolutely AA in law school for veterans.

I don’t consider it affirmative action. Veterans absolutely have a special set of skills and work ethic earned and learned from their time in the service and that is taken into consideration for acceptance.

But that doesn’t mean that they will be good lawyers. Why should they get preference for law school?

Because they understand civic duty and public interest better than most.

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

It gave us JD Vance.

He went to Ohio State on the GI Bill, did really well there, & got in Yale Law based on grades & LSAT. Where was the Affirmative Action?

I say this as a military spouse (and both of us are lawyers), there’s absolutely AA in law school for veterans.

I don’t consider it affirmative action. Veterans absolutely have a special set of skills and work ethic earned and learned from their time in the service and that is taken into consideration for acceptance.

But that doesn’t mean that they will be good lawyers. Why should they get preference for law school?

Because they understand civic duty and public interest better than most.

I’m the PP. I don’t think most people with military experience would agree with this. There’s huge variability.