Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions

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Anonymous wrote:You also have to take things in perspective, for instance the Atlanta Metro & DMV are the metro areas where 24% and 18% where the tech workers are Black


https://lecbyo.files.cmp.optimizely.com/download/fa9be256b74111efa0ca8e42e80f1a8f?sfvrsn=a8aa5246_2

DC is the city with the highest where 28% of the tech workers are Black

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

Since almost all schools superscore, you are grossly underestimating the numbers of kids with higher scores…the discrepancy, while undoubtedly large, also would be smaller because, on average, Asians take the test more times, even than whites - and blacks the least.

If this data is correct , The ivy league would be

Asian - 50%

White - 46%

Hispanic - 3%

Black - 1%

If they went purely on academics, yes

THE Asian success story in the United States is truly inspiring

Being previously rich or highly educated in your past country, residing only in remarkably expensive coastal areas for the rich, and then being rich are now success stories?


Most of the Asian demographics who are from actually poor/war torn backgrounds are struggling and doing terribly in the US. You’re just focused on the East Asian people wealthy crowd.

Asian Americans are the race with the largest inequality gap.

Large numbers of rich asian immigrants is a VERY recent phenomenon.
Large numbers of highly educated H1B asians are a fairly recent phenomenon.
Asians have been academically successful in America for a very long time.

Asians don't go to expensive coastal cities because they are rich, they go there because that is where the opportunity is. I mean a lot of black and hispanic immigrants also immigrate to expensive coastal cities.
Asians in the wealthy coastal city of New York have the highest poverty rate among all ethnic groups.
Asians at Stuyvesant in NYC have a higher incidence of free lunch than the average stuy student.

Most second generations asians are the children of de facto economic refugees.
The Koreans were mostly fleeing a brutal military dictatorship. You really think the dry cleaner and grocery store stereotype comes form thin air?
The Chinese were fleeing communism. You think all the waiter and waitresses at the chinese restaurants are related to the owner or something?
The Indians and Pakistanis were also economic immigrants. You really think the stereotype of driving taxicabs and running convenience stores comes from thin air?

Until recently asian immigrants came here with little to nothing. The success we see in America is not based on the recent influx of rich asians. Calling out the anti-asian discrimination might be driven by rich asians that are not used to being treated poorly but they are not the reason asians are perceived as successful.

This is complete revisionist history. Asian American immigrants were successful members of their past societies. We don't just let anyone into the country. Asians have the largest divide in income equality of any race, because the war torn asians (of which there are much fewer) make a lot less than the rich Korean, Chinese, Indians, and Japanese immigrants. The "taxicab" stereotype is racism by white people who couldn't tell you the difference between a Cambodian and Indian, and it's embarrassing that this is where you base your opinions from.

You are ignoring history before the dot com boom.

There have always been Asian doctors, lawyers, academics. Where do y out think the Mamdamis and Harris’s of the world come from?

Yes, just like there have always been black and hispanic doctors, lawyers and academics.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

What kind of eugenicist trash is this?

Work ethicx is usually a reference to culture not genetics.

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

The DC Metro has the highest concentration of Black Americans getting 1400 + higher on Sat

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12078/w12078.pdf

I don't see that in the paper. Do you have a page number?

Here are some Numbers

2025 - Virginia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-virginia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - Maryland https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-maryland-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - DC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-district-of-columbia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - California https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-california-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - Texas https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-texas-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2025 - Florida https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-florida-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - Georgia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-georgia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-north-carolina-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NY https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-new-york-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - MAss https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-massachusetts-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

If you look at the numbers the White admission rates to elite schools should be much lower... WTF is going on

Yeah it wasn't minorities taking the spot of Asians

It was anti-asian discrimination in race conscious college admissions

Sorry but no. And before you drag out SFFA v Harvard as example understand.

Harvard won on the discrimination claim.
Harvards win was upheld on appeal.
The discrimination claim wasn’t brought forward at the Supreme Court, rather the plaintiffs made an argument that the equal protection clause was violated in line with their goal from the beginning.

SFFA never cared about discrimination against Asians, they just needed a vehicle to get their desired argument in front of of the Supreme Court.

Harvard didn't win shit.

There was never a question of whether or not there was discrimination. The question was whether the discrimination was permissible discrimination. Harvard stipulated that discrimination occurred, but the discrimination was legal. The argument at the supreme court level was whether such discrimination should be permissible in the context of college admissions and they concluded that racial discrimination had no place in college admissions. There was a question about the magnitude of the discrimination and the effect of the discrimination but not the existence of the discrimination.

By definition the 14th amendment claim based on race requires discrimination.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

Maybe, but it’s not very impressive or interesting to observe.

They are not doing it to entertain you. And the fact that you don't find hard work impressive might explain your children's college prospects and why you like to pretend that University of Alamaba is the new Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:They are locked into virtue signaling and suffering from white guilt. All a result of years of promoting liberals to the upper echelons of the educational industrial complex.

This post is catchphrases cosplaying as coherent thought

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Anonymous wrote:Lot of angry losers who thought SCOTUS was handing Ivy slots to their kids that just can’t make the grade.

Let's do the math. In 2022 the SAT test taker demographics were as follows (from https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/20...ts-annual-report.pdf)

175,468 Asians
201,645 Black/African Americans
396,422 Hispanic/Latino
732,946 White

In 2020, the percentage of takers getting a 1500+/1400+ (respectively) by race were:

9%/23% of Asians
<1%/1% of Black/African Americans
<1%/2% of Hispanics/Latinos
2%/7% of Whites

That means that among the pool of people getting 1500/1400+ (rounding <1% to 0.5%):

15,792/40,357 are Asian
1,008/2,016 are Black
1,982/7,928 are Hispanic
14,658/51,306 are White

They're not getting mad, they're getting theirs

The DC Metro has the highest concentration of Black Americans getting 1400 + higher on Sat

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w12078/w12078.pdf

I don't see that in the paper. Do you have a page number?

Here are some Numbers

2025 - Virginia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-virginia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - Maryland https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-maryland-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - DC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-district-of-columbia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - California https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-california-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2024 - Texas https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-texas-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

2025 - Florida https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-florida-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - Georgia https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-georgia-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NC https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-north-carolina-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2025 - NY https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2025-new-york-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report%20ADA-v0.2.pdf

2024 - MAss https://reports.collegeboard.org/media/pdf/2024-massachusetts-sat-suite-of-assessments-annual-report-ADA.pdf

If you look at the numbers the White admission rates to elite schools should be much lower... WTF is going on

Yeah it wasn't minorities taking the spot of Asians

It was anti-asian discrimination in race conscious college admissions

Sorry but no. And before you drag out SFFA v Harvard as example understand.

Harvard won on the discrimination claim.
Harvards win was upheld on appeal.
The discrimination claim wasn’t brought forward at the Supreme Court, rather the plaintiffs made an argument that the equal protection clause was violated in line with their goal from the beginning.

SFFA never cared about discrimination against Asians, they just needed a vehicle to get their desired argument in front of of the Supreme Court.

Harvard didn't win shit.

There was never a question of whether or not there was discrimination. The question was whether the discrimination was permissible discrimination. Harvard stipulated that discrimination occurred, but the discrimination was legal. The argument at the supreme court level was whether such discrimination should be permissible in the context of college admissions and they concluded that racial discrimination had no place in college admissions. There was a question about the magnitude of the discrimination and the effect of the discrimination but not the existence of the discrimination.

By definition the 14th amendment claim based on race requires discrimination.

That’s a pretty interesting interpretation of the case but not a very accurate or correct one.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

What kind of eugenicist trash is this?

Work ethicx is usually a reference to culture not genetics.

Hard working is just racist dogma. Black people aren’t less hard working than you, weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

Maybe, but it’s not very impressive or interesting to observe.

They are not doing it to entertain you. And the fact that you don't find hard work impressive might explain your children's college prospects and why you like to pretend that University of Alamaba is the new Harvard.

Yeah, sure. Just reading through all the disappointed results in this forum about all the perfect stats and rejections really proves your point.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

What kind of eugenicist trash is this?

Work ethicx is usually a reference to culture not genetics.

Hard working is just racist dogma. Black people aren’t less hard working than you, weirdo.

Everybody is less hard working, slacker.

You can feel it can't you?

All the unearned privilege and benefits slipping away to people who are earning it.

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

Maybe, but it’s not very impressive or interesting to observe.

They are not doing it to entertain you. And the fact that you don't find hard work impressive might explain your children's college prospects and why you like to pretend that University of Alamaba is the new Harvard.

Yeah, sure. Just reading through all the disappointed results in this forum about all the perfect stats and rejections really proves your point.

And that is your problem.

One group takes the value of education as gospel, they KNOW it is the way

Another group believes in the value of education, they think it has value.

And yet another group suspects education has value.

The first group studies the hardest

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We need DEIA back so we can keep these Asians from taking all the spots at top universities.

[Anonymous]

These discussions often devolve into racial conflict, which makes me think some people are intentionally diverting attention from the real issue in our society: the ultra-wealthy consolidating power while the rest of us foolishly fight over scraps.

Seriously if no one has a place in the economy, does it matter what college you go to?

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Anonymous wrote:We need DEIA back so we can keep these Asians from taking all the spots at top universities.

Why only top universities? I am sure you want DEI everywhere including your doctors, your favorite basketball teams, football teams, your house built by DEI

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Anonymous wrote:my kid is at Princeton and isn't skating through.

and went to Stuyvesant, which isn't easy either.

think it totally depends on major and teacher selection.

Princeton is generally considered second to places like MIT/Caltech in terms of rigor.

But most of the other ivy grading is kind of a joke,

Can always tell when the Asian grinder steps up.

Using "grinder" as a derogatory term pretty much sums up why your community is declining.

I’m part of that community….we think of “Asian grinders” in a similar manner to how that community feels about “white trash”.

Why so you look down on people of a certain race for working hard?

Why are people upset about being accused of working hard? Do people get upset about being called beautiful?

Because people need to make up oppression. Asians created the concept of “positive racism” as if it’s slavery that someone called you smart and good at math.

Or maybe it’s upsetting that it exposes that they aren’t really smarter they just have to work really really hard to do well in school?

All things being equal, the jarder working group is going to do better.

Maybe, but it’s not very impressive or interesting to observe.

They are not doing it to entertain you. And the fact that you don't find hard work impressive might explain your children's college prospects and why you like to pretend that University of Alamaba is the new Harvard.

Yeah, sure. Just reading through all the disappointed results in this forum about all the perfect stats and rejections really proves your point.

And that is your problem.

One group takes the value of education as gospel, they KNOW it is the way

Another group believes in the value of education, they think it has value.

And yet another group suspects education has value.

The first group studies the hardest

My problem? Your problem is that you think you know how to play the game but you really don't.