Without affirmative action, elite colleges are prioritizing economic diversity in admissions

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

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My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

Lawsuit time !

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

It gave us JD Vance.

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Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

People who ignorantly regurgitate MAGA dogma from Fox News are the worst.

Note that I don't love extreme wokeness and believe DEI went overboard. But MAGA virtue signaling that you are falling in line with the party line is worse. If Trump told you to stick your head up your butt you would do it. No questions asked.

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Some level of diversity, be it economic, racial, etc. is good. Schools have gone overboard on all accounts. Ironically to the disadvantage of their alums as most college grads are the middle class who are getting hosed by all of this and legacy preference only goes so far - contrary to ignorant popular opinion, most college grads are middle class - we only hear about all the rich ones but they are the exception, not the rule, even at top ivies.

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This will work out fine because a lot of rich whites don't want to send their kids to these schools just to subsidize other poor kids. They will be at large southern universities.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

Same for us. Parent profession would indicate a high income, but I didn’t think it was required to put on your application. My guess is if you are in fact low income, you will be filling out a FAFSA form. Those are the kids that will benefit

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

People who ignorantly regurgitate MAGA dogma from Fox News are the worst.

Note that I don't love extreme wokeness and believe DEI went overboard. But MAGA virtue signaling that you are falling in line with the party line is worse. If Trump told you to stick your head up your butt you would do it. No questions asked.

Even the top AI guys say humanities/critical thinking is what is needed for AI jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:If they prioritize economic diversity over race black / Hispanic numbers return to pre affirmative action while increasing the Asian numbers to 50%, but the white numbers take a 12% hit, it this happens Blum will say universities are using economics as a proxy for race to discriminate against whites

The reason they never wanted to do income based affirmative action is because the majority of smart poor kids are rural whites. Those are the absolute last group of people that college administrators want to help.

You can solve for that by layering geo-coding.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

If you applied for FAFSA or marked that you will

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With AI progressing so quickly, college prestige may matter less and less. People won’t need a degree to prove their abilities. Seeing so many Gen Z job struggles—unemployment, low wages, outsourcing, H-1B competition—makes it feel like our kids are just fighting to survive. It’s hard to know whether a college degree still makes a difference.

Social media and AI were the worst creations in history

Woke and humanities majors are worse.

People who ignorantly regurgitate MAGA dogma from Fox News are the worst.

Note that I don't love extreme wokeness and believe DEI went overboard. But MAGA virtue signaling that you are falling in line with the party line is worse. If Trump told you to stick your head up your butt you would do it. No questions asked.

Even the top AI guys say humanities/critical thinking is what is needed for AI jobs.

Yes. This explains why CS majors are getting out hired by those in the humanities now

https://bigcloud.global/why-studying-humanities-and-arts-is-key-to-developing-artificial-intelligence/

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

Same for us. Parent profession would indicate a high income, but I didn’t think it was required to put on your application. My guess is if you are in fact low income, you will be filling out a FAFSA form. Those are the kids that will benefit

Yep FAFSA. If you want a low income boost you can’t skip filling it out. That would out you.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

Same for us. Parent profession would indicate a high income, but I didn’t think it was required to put on your application. My guess is if you are in fact low income, you will be filling out a FAFSA form. Those are the kids that will benefit

So much for everyone saying full pay was an advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is at a title 1 high school, but we would be full pay. We live in a. Urban area, and our zip code includes houses that are $50k and houses that are $2 mil. Assuming schools are need blind, and the parents profession is not something like orthopedic surgeon, how can they tell if we are low income or not?

There is no such thing as need blind.