MAGA - why do you hate Europe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know where to start. I'll make a bullet list. I don't hate Europe but I don't hold up Europe as some kind of utopia like the left does.

- Coffee servings too small, also their drip coffee tends to be trash.
- washing machines too small
- who the hell thinks that kitchens should be removable items that people move from apartment to apartment?
- you need to gain clearance from a pharmacist to buy aspirin. Why?
- bad AC. Overheated public spaces in the winter.
- they lack any concept of the US's wealth or geographical size
-they expect Americans to pay their bills
- they don't have children
- their beaches are too cold
- they are fatter than they realize
- I'm in tolerant of cultures that treat beer as a breakfast item
- I'm also intolerant of using a fork and knife to eat donuts. Pick it up like a man.
- their stock market sucks
- their regulations are oppressive and contributing to...
- their economies are shrinking
- they force their people to spend way too much on healthcare
- I resent that it seems like their best days are behind them and they have squandered their inheritance.

Put a different way: where the European says why, the American says why not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In light of Dear Leader’s recent outbursts about Europe being weak, in decline, and experiencing “erasure” of their civilization, it certainly seems like MAGA despises Europe. Can someone explain why? They are an historic trading partner, military ally, and enormous economy. Why do Republicans want to turn them into an enemy?

We don't have any hatred towards Europe. We don't hate Europeans. We're all part of the same Western civilization.
What we hate is the direction Europe is heading. It's turning into a woke continent. It's shocking how much wokism is being pushed in Europe. They really need to put an end to it.
Europe is also becoming so diverse that it's starting to erase western civilization.
That's what bothers us. We don't want to turn them into an enemy, but we might have to if they keep promoting wokism and immigration policies that threaten our civilization.
We will like Europe again once they change their path.

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Can you even define “woke” or “wokism”? Otherwise your post is just noise.

I think the PP already made it clear - "diverse" as in not western-european-white, not Christian, not Anglo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I spent years living in Europe. What I don’t like about them is that when the US is strong & protects other countries, they bash us for being imperialistic, jingoistic, & violent. When we are weak they whine about us NOT protecting everybody else in the world. They are pathetic & cowardly.

Can you give me some examples where the US has been strong and protected other countries and then been criticised for it? I’m struggling to think of examples.

Because you are not well-traveled and your education is provincial. Google exists by the way.

Actually, I have two passports had lived on four continents. I’m genuinely interested in the examples where the US has protected countries and being criticised for it. Let’s leave that Israel for the moment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I spent years living in Europe. What I don’t like about them is that when the US is strong & protects other countries, they bash us for being imperialistic, jingoistic, & violent. When we are weak they whine about us NOT protecting everybody else in the world. They are pathetic & cowardly.

Can you give me some examples where the US has been strong and protected other countries and then been criticised for it? I’m struggling to think of examples.

Because you are not well-traveled and your education is provincial. Google exists by the way.

Actually, I have two passports had lived on four continents. I’m genuinely interested in the examples where the US has protected countries and being criticised for it. Let’s leave that Israel for the moment.

* out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know where to start. I'll make a bullet list. I don't hate Europe but I don't hold up Europe as some kind of utopia like the left does.

- Coffee servings too small, also their drip coffee tends to be trash.
- washing machines too small
- who the hell thinks that kitchens should be removable items that people move from apartment to apartment?
- you need to gain clearance from a pharmacist to buy aspirin. Why?
- bad AC. Overheated public spaces in the winter.
- they lack any concept of the US's wealth or geographical size
-they expect Americans to pay their bills
- they don't have children
- their beaches are too cold
- they are fatter than they realize
- I'm in tolerant of cultures that treat beer as a breakfast item
- I'm also intolerant of using a fork and knife to eat donuts. Pick it up like a man.
- their stock market sucks
- their regulations are oppressive and contributing to...
- their economies are shrinking
- they force their people to spend way too much on healthcare
- I resent that it seems like their best days are behind them and they have squandered their inheritance.

Put a different way: where the European says why, the American says why not.

No the American say how much is Trump’s cut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know where to start. I'll make a bullet list. I don't hate Europe but I don't hold up Europe as some kind of utopia like the left does.

- Coffee servings too small, also their drip coffee tends to be trash.
- washing machines too small
- who the hell thinks that kitchens should be removable items that people move from apartment to apartment?
- you need to gain clearance from a pharmacist to buy aspirin. Why?
- bad AC. Overheated public spaces in the winter.
- they lack any concept of the US's wealth or geographical size
-they expect Americans to pay their bills
- they don't have children
- their beaches are too cold
- they are fatter than they realize
- I'm in tolerant of cultures that treat beer as a breakfast item
- I'm also intolerant of using a fork and knife to eat donuts. Pick it up like a man.
- their stock market sucks
- their regulations are oppressive and contributing to...
- their economies are shrinking
- they force their people to spend way too much on healthcare
- I resent that it seems like their best days are behind them and they have squandered their inheritance.

Put a different way: where the European says why, the American says why not.

lol American exceptionalism has proven to be nothing more then a pipe dream. When European say why, the Americans say no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even know where to start. I'll make a bullet list. I don't hate Europe but I don't hold up Europe as some kind of utopia like the left does.

- Coffee servings too small, also their drip coffee tends to be trash.
- washing machines too small
- who the hell thinks that kitchens should be removable items that people move from apartment to apartment?
- you need to gain clearance from a pharmacist to buy aspirin. Why?
- bad AC. Overheated public spaces in the winter.
- they lack any concept of the US's wealth or geographical size
-they expect Americans to pay their bills
- they don't have children
- their beaches are too cold
- they are fatter than they realize
- I'm in tolerant of cultures that treat beer as a breakfast item
- I'm also intolerant of using a fork and knife to eat donuts. Pick it up like a man.
- their stock market sucks
- their regulations are oppressive and contributing to...
- their economies are shrinking
- they force their people to spend way too much on healthcare
- I resent that it seems like their best days are behind them and they have squandered their inheritance.

Put a different way: where the European says why, the American says why not.

lol American exceptionalism has proven to be nothing more then a pipe dream. When European say why, the Americans say no.

When Europeans say why, they do so with their palms extended up and out.

[Anonymous]

Interesting article about De Gaulle, NATO, and mutual defense in 1966

Looking back: De Gaulle tells American Forces to leave France

On March 7, 1966, General Charles De Gaulle, the French President, informed the United States government that all foreign troops must leave France.

That was the end result of a number of agendas which began with the French desire to develop a self-determinate nuclear arsenal, remove France from what it considered an unequal partnership with the United Kingdom and the United States in NATO, and free it from being drawn into a conflict between the North Atlantic Treaty Organization members and members of the Warsaw Pact, should the Russian forces encroach on West Germany territory.

France wished to be free to seek its own treaty with the Warsaw Pact countries. If the country remained in the NATO membership, it would be obligated to respond against any Russian aggression in Germany according to the NATO mandates. This allowed RAF Mildenhall to become home to the 513th Troop Carrier Wing on July 1, 1966.

In a series of acts from 1958 forward, De Gaulle grew more and more hostile to the United States playing a dominant role in NATO. He wrote President Eisenhower and Prime Minister McMillan that there must be a tripartite directorate with France having an equal role in NATO to the United Kingdom and the United States.

[Anonymous]

France is becoming more and more irrelevant.

France’s military is being ousted from more African countries

It’s been a tumultuous month for France and its relationship with former colonies in Africa, as its influence on the continent faces the biggest challenge in decades.

As Paris was devising a new military strategy that would sharply reduce its permanent troop presence in Africa, two of its closest allies struck a double blow.

The government of Chad, considered France’s most stable and loyal partner in Africa, announced on Nov. 28 it was ending defense cooperation to redefine its sovereignty.

And in an interview published hours later by Le Monde, Senegal’s new president said it was “obvious” that soon French soldiers wouldn’t be on Senegalese soil.

“Chad’s decision marks the final nail in the coffin of France’s post-colonial military dominance in the entire Sahel region,” said Mucahid Durmaz, a senior analyst at global risk consultancy Verisk Maplecroft, referring to the arid region south of the Sahara.

The decisions by Senegal and Chad “are part of the wider structural transformation in the region’s engagement with France, in which Paris political and military influence continues to diminish,” Durmaz added.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:France is becoming more and more irrelevant.

France’s military is being ousted from more African countries

It’s been a tumultuous month for France and its relationship with former colonies in Africa, as its influence on the continent faces the biggest challenge in decades.

As Paris was devising a new military strategy that would sharply reduce its permanent troop presence in Africa, two of its closest allies struck a double blow.

The government of Chad, considered France’s most stable and loyal partner in Africa, announced on Nov. 28 it was ending defense cooperation to redefine its sovereignty.

And in an interview published hours later by Le Monde, Senegal’s new president said it was “obvious” that soon French soldiers wouldn’t be on Senegalese soil.

“Chad’s decision marks the final nail in the coffin of France’s post-colonial military dominance in the entire Sahel region,” said Mucahid Durmaz, a senior analyst at global risk consultancy Verisk Maplecroft, referring to the arid region south of the Sahara.

The decisions by Senegal and Chad “are part of the wider structural transformation in the region’s engagement with France, in which Paris political and military influence continues to diminish,” Durmaz added.

I’m not sure disengaging from Senegal and Chad makes France “irrelevant”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I spent years living in Europe. What I don’t like about them is that when the US is strong & protects other countries, they bash us for being imperialistic, jingoistic, & violent. When we are weak they whine about us NOT protecting everybody else in the world. They are pathetic & cowardly.

Can you give me some examples where the US has been strong and protected other countries and then been criticised for it? I’m struggling to think of examples.

Because you are not well-traveled and your education is provincial. Google exists by the way.

Actually, I have two passports had lived on four continents. I’m genuinely interested in the examples where the US has protected countries and being criticised for it. Let’s leave that Israel for the moment.

DP. Stop being dense. Right now, the US is being criticized for protecting Israel from aggressive neighbors (in the form of weapons etc). We were criticized for protecting the entire west from Islamic terrorism. We were criticized for protecting Kuwait from Iraq. Etc. Please stop pretending you're not familiar with the cringe term "freedom fries."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:France is becoming more and more irrelevant.

France’s military is being ousted from more African countries

It’s been a tumultuous month for France and its relationship with former colonies in Africa, as its influence on the continent faces the biggest challenge in decades.

As Paris was devising a new military strategy that would sharply reduce its permanent troop presence in Africa, two of its closest allies struck a double blow.

The government of Chad, considered France’s most stable and loyal partner in Africa, announced on Nov. 28 it was ending defense cooperation to redefine its sovereignty.

And in an interview published hours later by Le Monde, Senegal’s new president said it was “obvious” that soon French soldiers wouldn’t be on Senegalese soil.

“Chad’s decision marks the final nail in the coffin of France’s post-colonial military dominance in the entire Sahel region,” said Mucahid Durmaz, a senior analyst at global risk consultancy Verisk Maplecroft, referring to the arid region south of the Sahara.

The decisions by Senegal and Chad “are part of the wider structural transformation in the region’s engagement with France, in which Paris political and military influence continues to diminish,” Durmaz added.

I’m not sure disengaging from Senegal and Chad makes France “irrelevant”.

You have that mixed up.

Engaging with its former colonies is the only thing that makes France relevant.

Engaging with the ethnostate has made America irrelevant.