Getting on GLP-1 after doctor says no

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

I'm not the op, but it sounds like you have a lot of bias, condescension and dislike against your own patients if that's the way you phrase things. And it's precisely why women have such a hard time with the topic of weight and doctors. Many people following a meditteranean diet are overweight btw, especially women as they near menopause. I'm willing to bet that if op had a perfect diet and told her doctor that, they'd still tell her she needs to lose those 15lbs.

[Anonymous]

ask your doctor again. If they say no ask why. But don’t go against medical advice - that is just asinine and asking for health problems. Express your frustration about the weight loss and see if there’s something else they advise beyond just work harder eat less…

Maybe they have another option for you. Or maybe they’ll say hey let’s put this into perspective. It would be ideal if you lose this 10 to 15 pounds but if you don’t you won’t implode

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

What if you are not obese and DO have high cholesterol and approaching high BP and pre-diabetes due to genetics and menopause? That's what tons of women are facing. There are so many stories on here about the agonies of trying and failing with statins and allllll the other medications. Why wouldn't a GLP be more attractive? It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm not about conspiracy theories at all, but I am getting so suspicious that doctors are uneducated or protecting pharma or something. It's strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not so bad to carry 10 or 15 extra pounds. Their recommendation is that you lose it but it’s not like you’re making a dire mistake if you don’t. Some of y’all need to calm down.


I’m super fat at the moment and think the shot is a ridiculous pathway if you have only 10 to 15 pounds to lose. Rapid weight loss can cause significant organ issues and damage.

Losing a half a pound a week through working out more may make it seem like that 10 or 15 pounds isn’t coming off. It will, but you do really have to work for it. Trust me I wasn’t always a big fatty fat fat. The only time I was thin I worked out six days a week and I have a physical job. To people saying they can’t lose the 10 or 15 it takes more than what you’re doing currently. And that’s hard and I get the frustration. I’m also perimenopausal myself so I get how much harder it is. We have to work twice as hard than we used to. And it will never look the same as it did a 25 or 35.

I mean...what? You have lost all credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

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Anonymous wrote:Take the eat less move more challenge and actually follow that consistently. Give it one more college try before using alternative, unregulated, not without risks, medicine from dubious sources.

Oh wow. I bet OP never thought of that!

She probably thinks about it all the time, but can she DO that all the time?

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

GLP-1s make this, the most difficult part of weight loss, feel easier to do consistently day in and day out. And they do improve health for overweight people as well. As for shortages, we're well beyond that at this point in terms of availability, and insurance won't reimburse for people who do not qualify like your BIL does. A lot of the objections feel like judgement and thinness gatekeeping rather than true concern.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

GLP-1s make this, the most difficult part of weight loss, feel easier to do consistently day in and day out. And they do improve health for overweight people as well. As for shortages, we're well beyond that at this point in terms of availability, and insurance won't reimburse for people who do not qualify like your BIL does. A lot of the objections feel like judgement and thinness gatekeeping rather than true concern.

There is no skinny girl Illuminati. To go against your doctor's advice and then not seek a second opinion, since you believe your doctor is wrong, betrays the disorder you are suffering. You know that no ethical doctor will prescribe these drugs for 20 pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

There was NEVER a shortage for diabetics. They always got priority in every pharmacy during a brief shortage. Furthermore, there certainly isn't a shortage now and OP isn't going to get Ozempic without a script. So please save us your fake, ignorant outrage because it was never about that. It's litteraly NONE of your business why people go on these meds. It's between them and their doctors.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

GLP-1s make this, the most difficult part of weight loss, feel easier to do consistently day in and day out. And they do improve health for overweight people as well. As for shortages, we're well beyond that at this point in terms of availability, and insurance won't reimburse for people who do not qualify like your BIL does. A lot of the objections feel like judgement and thinness gatekeeping rather than true concern.

There is no skinny girl Illuminati. To go against your doctor's advice and then not seek a second opinion, since you believe your doctor is wrong, betrays the disorder you are suffering. You know that no ethical doctor will prescribe these drugs for 20 pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeking out weight loss drugs after your doctor advised against it is disordered. If you truly believe you need these drugs and that your doctor is incompetent, get a second opinion or change doctors. The fact that you posed this question here and the chorus of similarly disordered people are guiding you to their suppliers betrays your and their disorders. This smacks of eating disorders, body dysmorphia as well as addictive behavior.

Wanting to be a normal weight is not "disordered" or "body dysmorphia" when your doctor tells you you should be a normal weight and is just unwilling to use available treatments to help a patient achieve recommended goals. A second opinion probably would yield the same exact frustrating result because GPs are not incompetent so much as following their mindset which is old school and basic when it comes to weight management, and aligned with broad recommendations rather than the patient in front of them.

I'm a registered dietitian and I see this very often. The issue is the definition of "normal weight." And yes, most often, as I get to know the patient, other factors begin to present that raise the issue of body dysmorphia, disordered eating (past or current), OCD, ADHD and other presentations of disordered thinking.

The definition was presented by the doctor who told op she was overweight. It was not in her head. It's not disordered to think that if your doctor tells you you are overweight and need to lose weight you are in fact overweight.

+1 Right?!?!

Being overweight by 10-20 pounds is not the same as being obese or being overweight and having diabetes, high bp, high cholesterol. The doctor told you that you are overweight and should work to lose the weight. She didn't say, "you're fat, good luck with that." Most likely, she recommended a mediterranean or heart smart, plant based diet along with exercise. That's not as easy as jabbing a needle into your stomach and it takes longer, which is why you are recoiling and looking for another means of getting the drug.

Oh F off
So you’re fine with it for obese people but not those of us working our asses off who still can’t lose the rest?
-not op

People famously underestimate how much they actually eat. If you are eating at a deficit consistently, you will lose weight.My concern is the otherwise healthy, slightly overweight people messing it up for those who truly need it for health reasons. You people caused a shortage and my bil had no access to Ozempic, which he took for diabetes.

There was NEVER a shortage for diabetics. They always got priority in every pharmacy during a brief shortage. Furthermore, there certainly isn't a shortage now and OP isn't going to get Ozempic without a script. So please save us your fake, ignorant outrage because it was never about that. It's litteraly NONE of your business why people go on these meds. It's between them and their doctors.

That’s the point of this entire thread. OP does not want to tell her doctor that does not think that she qualifies for this medicine. She wants to get the medicine without her doctors permission against medical advice.

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Anonymous wrote:She probably knows the realty that for 15lbs you will use it to lose weight but are unlikely to rally stay on it for life which means you will just quickly regain the weight the minute you go off. Because if you can not lose the weight through diet and exercise you will not maintain it that way and need to be on these medications for LIFE.

Especially for 15 pounds. You can lose that over a few months with small dietary changes. Why take the nuclear option for 15 pounds? That doesn't bode well for future weight management if you have to stop the glp or if it becomes ineffective for you.

Why do you refuse to actually listen to the OP telling you, that no, she can't lose 15lbs "over a few months with small dietary changes." Only what you know and believe is gospel.

You're probably a 25 year old male who has zero experience being in a middle-aged female body. And yet, you are the weight loss authority.

Does anyone really need to lose 15 lbs for health reasons? At that level it’s mostly just vanity.

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Anonymous wrote:She probably knows the realty that for 15lbs you will use it to lose weight but are unlikely to rally stay on it for life which means you will just quickly regain the weight the minute you go off. Because if you can not lose the weight through diet and exercise you will not maintain it that way and need to be on these medications for LIFE.

Especially for 15 pounds. You can lose that over a few months with small dietary changes. Why take the nuclear option for 15 pounds? That doesn't bode well for future weight management if you have to stop the glp or if it becomes ineffective for you.

Why do you refuse to actually listen to the OP telling you, that no, she can't lose 15lbs "over a few months with small dietary changes." Only what you know and believe is gospel.

You're probably a 25 year old male who has zero experience being in a middle-aged female body. And yet, you are the weight loss authority.

Does anyone really need to lose 15 lbs for health reasons? At that level it’s mostly just vanity.

Her doctor told her to lose weight, one would assume the doctor is not saying that for vanity.

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Anonymous wrote:She probably knows the realty that for 15lbs you will use it to lose weight but are unlikely to rally stay on it for life which means you will just quickly regain the weight the minute you go off. Because if you can not lose the weight through diet and exercise you will not maintain it that way and need to be on these medications for LIFE.

Especially for 15 pounds. You can lose that over a few months with small dietary changes. Why take the nuclear option for 15 pounds? That doesn't bode well for future weight management if you have to stop the glp or if it becomes ineffective for you.

Why do you refuse to actually listen to the OP telling you, that no, she can't lose 15lbs "over a few months with small dietary changes." Only what you know and believe is gospel.

You're probably a 25 year old male who has zero experience being in a middle-aged female body. And yet, you are the weight loss authority.

Does anyone really need to lose 15 lbs for health reasons? At that level it’s mostly just vanity.

Her doctor told her to lose weight, one would assume the doctor is not saying that for vanity.

Meh, doctors have skinny bias, too. Being told offhandedly that it “would be good to lose some weight” is not the same as saying it’s medically urgent that they lose that weight. OP would have to be 5’ 0” for 15 pounds to be a statistically significant amount of weight to lose.

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Anonymous wrote:She probably knows the realty that for 15lbs you will use it to lose weight but are unlikely to rally stay on it for life which means you will just quickly regain the weight the minute you go off. Because if you can not lose the weight through diet and exercise you will not maintain it that way and need to be on these medications for LIFE.

Especially for 15 pounds. You can lose that over a few months with small dietary changes. Why take the nuclear option for 15 pounds? That doesn't bode well for future weight management if you have to stop the glp or if it becomes ineffective for you.

Why do you refuse to actually listen to the OP telling you, that no, she can't lose 15lbs "over a few months with small dietary changes." Only what you know and believe is gospel.

You're probably a 25 year old male who has zero experience being in a middle-aged female body. And yet, you are the weight loss authority.

Does anyone really need to lose 15 lbs for health reasons? At that level it’s mostly just vanity.

Her doctor told her to lose weight, one would assume the doctor is not saying that for vanity.

It is to prevent preventable disease.