Why are southerners so obsessed with being southern?
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Anonymous
The family funded the trips and from there they had a serious leg up. The church was for the 5th and 6th sons who would never get a whiff of inheritance. |
Anonymous
Now you’re just trolling |
Anonymous
I’m from the South. I’ve never heard anybody say this, except to repeat this rumor. Did it happen 100 years ago? Yes. Now? Not in my circles. |
Anonymous
| If the civil war was about slavery why did Lincoln wait two years to outlaw it? |
Anonymous
NP, I grew up hearing it in Virginia generally spoken by older people. It was pretty common to hear it in Virginia. I've also heard it in the Surry Virginia region. |
Anonymous
The southern state economies are thriving. People from all walks of life and with a bit of hustle can advance and buy houses and land. |
Anonymous
Are there more than 1000 Boston Brahmins alive at this point? |
Anonymous
Found the racist Southerner who’s still ticked about the War of Northern Agression LOL |
Anonymous
Now? No. But not that long ago? Yes. https://www.arlnow.com/2023/11/15/odd-plaque-near-the-madison-community-center-no-longer-includes-antiquated-civil-war-reference/ |
Anonymous
Because Lincoln isn’t the one who started the war. Southern states seceded because the believed that a US government headed by Lincoln would be hostile to slavery, limit its spread to the territories (Lincoln had this as a stated goal) and eventually outlaw in existing states (during the election he explicitly stated that he would not seek to do this). In a 4-way election, Lincoln was elected with 0 southern electoral votes, which signaled to many southerners that 1) they were now a permanent political minority in the US, and 2) slavery’s days were numbered. They seceded because they believed slavery would be safer outside the Union than in it. This is clear if you read the secession ordinances states published where they laid out their reasons. I should also note that not everyone in the South was on board with secession in the winter of 1860-61. The immediate secessionists (Fire-Eaters) were loud, organized, and steamrolled over their opposition, which tended to be disorganized and favor a variety of approaches (uncompromising Unionism, wait-and-see, etc). And some Unionists opposed secession less because of political ideals than because they believed that slavery would actually be safer in the Union than in a weak, fledgling Confederacy. So the war began not because Lincoln wanted to end slavery (although he was no fan of the institution) but because southerners wanted to preserve it. Lincoln’s initial war aim was purely to preserve the Union. It was as the war progressed - and thanks in part to the actions of enslaved people who ran to the Union lines whenever the army came near, as well as the arguments of men like Frederick Douglass - that Lincoln came to see emancipation as both a useful strategic tool and a great moral aim of the war. -historian of the 19th century South |
Anonymous
That many think they are! |
Anonymous
Found the northerner who's in denial about slavery in New England and who was buying southern cotton for northern factories and wealthy factory owners. |
Anonymous
Slavery, what little there was of it, had virtually ceased to exist by the 1790s in New England. Your second point is a valid one, though. |
Anonymous
| Connecticut had slaves till the1840s, and New Englanders also enslaved Native Americans. |
Anonymous
The Irish were never enslaved. They were indentured servants. |