Impact of boundary study on real estate

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Anonymous wrote:For the content of magnet and race, I did some research on the Blair SMAC program. It was solely placed at Blair because they wanted to attract more White and Asian students to the school, do not know what the issue is with knowing this. If you want to paint MCPS as nice equity district, we are solely wrong, the only thing that they place with equity in the system is the lottery for CES and middle school Magnet and resident had major issue with that.

It was to combat the white flight that was happening in DC at the time. It was a reverse bussing program to create a bump in the schools appearance so local famlies didn't think their school was the worst in the county which it was at the time. So it worked in that reguard. Funny part was to placate the west county parents at the time the Magnet kids had their own schedule, areas, bells and lunch period. One could attend Blair for 4 years and never meet a magnet kid really until they moved into the new building and started walking some of that back. Will be interesting to see what happens to Blair when it loses it. Those few hundred test takes make a huge difference in their test scores and college acceptances.

wait wait wait, what? The magnet kids were completely physically segregated from gen pop? When did that end?

That poster is talking BS. Not the first time.

The internet says that poster is correct.
E.g. “ When we moved to new Blair Magnet students asked the architect to design the building so that the magnet was no longer isolated in a section of the building.”
https://www.mbhsmagnet.org/news/fall09/with-changing-forces-the-magnet-evolves

I was there. In the old Blair, they added the D and E hall to house the computer labs, advanced science labs, advanced math classes etc...of course those classes were mostly taken by magnet students but those halls were always almost empty, except for going to/ coming from class or labs. Magnet students did not migrate or linger in those halls.

and nowadays do kids not in the magnet take the magnet classes? I would assume that most of the classes are either 1) full of magnet kids, or 2) really too advanced (for the upper level courses). I just am at a loss how the magnets generally benefit the school, aside from on a tiny margin.

Kids not in the magnet could and took magnet classes if they have the pre-requisites. I knew a few of them personally.

but it can't possibly be a lot. I am stumped that people think these new 'programs' will provide anything to uplift their schools in any real way. something like 70% of the kids in each program are supposed to come from elsewhere, so you get a double-digit number of kids that get into the program from the home school catchment. that's a tiny portion of kids in the school. maybe there are a couple spots in a class for a non-program kid, but it seems like it would be more luck that certainty.

It is. I have a non-magnet kid in classes.

How many?

There are multiple sections of the advanced classes. Kids go to the other schools because of the lack of offerings. If the offerings were at their home schools and students stayed at their home schools then there would be more demand.

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Anonymous wrote:For the content of magnet and race, I did some research on the Blair SMAC program. It was solely placed at Blair because they wanted to attract more White and Asian students to the school, do not know what the issue is with knowing this. If you want to paint MCPS as nice equity district, we are solely wrong, the only thing that they place with equity in the system is the lottery for CES and middle school Magnet and resident had major issue with that.

It was to combat the white flight that was happening in DC at the time. It was a reverse bussing program to create a bump in the schools appearance so local famlies didn't think their school was the worst in the county which it was at the time. So it worked in that reguard. Funny part was to placate the west county parents at the time the Magnet kids had their own schedule, areas, bells and lunch period. One could attend Blair for 4 years and never meet a magnet kid really until they moved into the new building and started walking some of that back. Will be interesting to see what happens to Blair when it loses it. Those few hundred test takes make a huge difference in their test scores and college acceptances.

wait wait wait, what? The magnet kids were completely physically segregated from gen pop? When did that end?

That poster is talking BS. Not the first time.

The internet says that poster is correct.
E.g. “ When we moved to new Blair Magnet students asked the architect to design the building so that the magnet was no longer isolated in a section of the building.”
https://www.mbhsmagnet.org/news/fall09/with-changing-forces-the-magnet-evolves

I was there. In the old Blair, they added the D and E hall to house the computer labs, advanced science labs, advanced math classes etc...of course those classes were mostly taken by magnet students but those halls were always almost empty, except for going to/ coming from class or labs. Magnet students did not migrate or linger in those halls.

and nowadays do kids not in the magnet take the magnet classes? I would assume that most of the classes are either 1) full of magnet kids, or 2) really too advanced (for the upper level courses). I just am at a loss how the magnets generally benefit the school, aside from on a tiny margin.

Kids not in the magnet could and took magnet classes if they have the pre-requisites. I knew a few of them personally.

but it can't possibly be a lot. I am stumped that people think these new 'programs' will provide anything to uplift their schools in any real way. something like 70% of the kids in each program are supposed to come from elsewhere, so you get a double-digit number of kids that get into the program from the home school catchment. that's a tiny portion of kids in the school. maybe there are a couple spots in a class for a non-program kid, but it seems like it would be more luck that certainty.

It is. I have a non-magnet kid in classes.

How many?

There are multiple sections of the advanced classes. Kids go to the other schools because of the lack of offerings. If the offerings were at their home schools and students stayed at their home schools then there would be more demand.

??? From this board it sounds like no advanced classes are offered and that’s why there is a need for magnets. You are now saying there are many sections of advanced classes but it means kids go to other schools to get advanced classes. What are you talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:For the content of magnet and race, I did some research on the Blair SMAC program. It was solely placed at Blair because they wanted to attract more White and Asian students to the school, do not know what the issue is with knowing this. If you want to paint MCPS as nice equity district, we are solely wrong, the only thing that they place with equity in the system is the lottery for CES and middle school Magnet and resident had major issue with that.

It was to combat the white flight that was happening in DC at the time. It was a reverse bussing program to create a bump in the schools appearance so local famlies didn't think their school was the worst in the county which it was at the time. So it worked in that reguard. Funny part was to placate the west county parents at the time the Magnet kids had their own schedule, areas, bells and lunch period. One could attend Blair for 4 years and never meet a magnet kid really until they moved into the new building and started walking some of that back. Will be interesting to see what happens to Blair when it loses it. Those few hundred test takes make a huge difference in their test scores and college acceptances.

wait wait wait, what? The magnet kids were completely physically segregated from gen pop? When did that end?

That poster is talking BS. Not the first time.

The internet says that poster is correct.
E.g. “ When we moved to new Blair Magnet students asked the architect to design the building so that the magnet was no longer isolated in a section of the building.”
https://www.mbhsmagnet.org/news/fall09/with-changing-forces-the-magnet-evolves

I was there. In the old Blair, they added the D and E hall to house the computer labs, advanced science labs, advanced math classes etc...of course those classes were mostly taken by magnet students but those halls were always almost empty, except for going to/ coming from class or labs. Magnet students did not migrate or linger in those halls.

and nowadays do kids not in the magnet take the magnet classes? I would assume that most of the classes are either 1) full of magnet kids, or 2) really too advanced (for the upper level courses). I just am at a loss how the magnets generally benefit the school, aside from on a tiny margin.

Kids not in the magnet could and took magnet classes if they have the pre-requisites. I knew a few of them personally.

but it can't possibly be a lot. I am stumped that people think these new 'programs' will provide anything to uplift their schools in any real way. something like 70% of the kids in each program are supposed to come from elsewhere, so you get a double-digit number of kids that get into the program from the home school catchment. that's a tiny portion of kids in the school. maybe there are a couple spots in a class for a non-program kid, but it seems like it would be more luck that certainty.

It is. I have a non-magnet kid in classes.

How many?

There are multiple sections of the advanced classes. Kids go to the other schools because of the lack of offerings. If the offerings were at their home schools and students stayed at their home schools then there would be more demand.

??? From this board it sounds like no advanced classes are offered and that’s why there is a need for magnets. You are now saying there are many sections of advanced classes but it means kids go to other schools to get advanced classes. What are you talking about.

Not PP but there are many schools without enough demand to run many of the advanced classes. This person is talking about Blair I believe (or another school with a magnet), though, where there is enough demand for multiple sections of advanced classes, with enough space for non-magnet kids to attend.

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ok so even at the magnet schools kids not in the magnet are unable to take advanced classes because there is not enough space for them?