Thomas Taylor and BCC

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

? typo or intended?

must have been intended. -not the poster you are replying to

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

Doesn't Rockville already have an IB program? Are they losing their IB program?

Yes. Rockville is grouped with RM, and no one will choose Rockville IB over RMIB.

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

What happens when student is third, fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh generation of immigrants? Do they also "inherit high working ethic?"

PP here. Not to look down upon 3rd or more generation of immigrants. Everyone has ancestors of immigrants not long ago in this country. It’s the demographic composition and just reflecting facts seen at the W schools and magnets. BTW, I replied that jewry was a typo. Meant to say Jewelry

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

Churchill and Wooton already have incredible college acceptance rates. Now they’ll get exclusive access to the best IB program in the county, too.

How many students want IB? Very few actually graduate with an IB degree.

They try so hard to try to bring students for IBDP. Aren't most IB students kids of first gen immigrants, diplomat kids, and a cohort of jewish and asian students?

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

Churchill and Wooton already have incredible college acceptance rates. Now they’ll get exclusive access to the best IB program in the county, too.

How many students want IB? Very few actually graduate with an IB degree.

MCPS showed enrollment info at a BoE meeting in July. Wooton, Churchill and RM already have the most spots in RM IB. Soon they can have all of them.

https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/DJVQ56678E2B/$file/Attachment%20D%20SY2025%20Student%20Enrollment%20Countywide%20Programs%20250724.pdf

Realtors, ready set go to 20853, 20850 etc...

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

My kid got into Kennedy IB and chose Einstein because they offered both IB and strong arts. It feels very shady that now both of those are threatened by the proposed diminished enrollment at AEHS.

Northwood is getting a new building with great performing arts facilities so that makes sense. IB at BCC looks like a gift for BCC and Whitman.

Then move VAC & Design to Northwood (maybe Communications, too, to better relieve Blair overcrowding without having to move SMCS) and put Humanities (changed to criteria-based), Medical Science/Healthcare and Languages at Einstein, shifting some of its catchment via the Boundary Studyvto Northwood or B-CC to keep enough room, shifting the Education magnet to Whitman to complement LaSJ/Public Service.

Or, as before, make Einstein the magnet IB.

That hurts kids who want ap and a stronger curriculum. And why should Einstein lose their signature programs which are the draw to Einstein.

Which one hurts? The former would increase those courses and draw capable students to enhance the cohort via the magnets suggested. The latter would do the same via dedication to it's status as the regional magnet IB.

The prior poster was noting the performing arts facilities would necessitate that magnet being at Northwood, and the pairing of Performing and Visual Arts is a bette solution.

This plan destroys Einstein.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

More kids choose Einstein than Kennedy in the DCC choice process. I don’t know if they choose it for Einstein’s IB or because of the music and theatre programs.

Kennedy has had a rough few years. Other than adding the IB magnet right before covid, MCPS hasn’t done much to improve the situation there. Kennedy will be in a region with Walter Johnson, Woodward and Wheaton, which probably won’t help.

But students who want to go to the IBDP at Kennedy would not go through the choice process. They would go through the application process. It does not seem that Einstein's IBDP is stronger than Kennedy's.

MCPS reports AP/IB test data. You have to scroll all the way to the end for IB stats per school but more Einstein students take IB exams than Kennedy students.

Einstein and BCC have about the same number of IB courses each year, though more BCC students take the exams. Why not put county resources into Einstein? The BCC program will be self-sustaining so there will be two good IB programs in the region. But Einstein is losing students in the boundary study so their IB will shrink or end without MCPS support.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2024/240215_2023_AP_IB_Exam_Enrollment%20Part%20and%20Perform..pdf

The regional programs should be the strongest programs that exist. BCC has much better IBDP than Einstein and higher IB test scores. It makes sense to open that up so kids across the region will be able to attend. It should not be just for BCC students.

Half the proposed programs are being built out of thin air. They won’t be strong at all. Putting the strongest programs at schools that are already have more resources, then placing the new, untested, low-demand programs at under-resourced schools means less affluent schools will lose more students than they gain. That will affect staffing formulas, the new programs will flounder, and they’ll become the least popular schools in the region.

How many of you would put your kids on a bus for an hour for an education magnet? Or a nursing assistant magnet? Or even a graphic design magnet?

MCPS is setting some schools up to fail. It sucks.

Not me and I’ll put my kids in private if necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

Doesn't Rockville already have an IB program? Are they losing their IB program?

Yes. Rockville is grouped with RM, and no one will choose Rockville IB over RMIB.

It's the IB Career-related Programme at Rockville that might draw some. Think Edison, but under the IB auspices (not exactly, but it helps paint a picture). You're right, though, that for the more traditionally academic IB Diploma Programme, folks would want what RMIB offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

My kid got into Kennedy IB and chose Einstein because they offered both IB and strong arts. It feels very shady that now both of those are threatened by the proposed diminished enrollment at AEHS.

Northwood is getting a new building with great performing arts facilities so that makes sense. IB at BCC looks like a gift for BCC and Whitman.

Then move VAC & Design to Northwood (maybe Communications, too, to better relieve Blair overcrowding without having to move SMCS) and put Humanities (changed to criteria-based), Medical Science/Healthcare and Languages at Einstein, shifting some of its catchment via the Boundary Studyvto Northwood or B-CC to keep enough room, shifting the Education magnet to Whitman to complement LaSJ/Public Service.

Or, as before, make Einstein the magnet IB.

That hurts kids who want ap and a stronger curriculum. And why should Einstein lose their signature programs which are the draw to Einstein.

Which one hurts? The former would increase those courses and draw capable students to enhance the cohort via the magnets suggested. The latter would do the same via dedication to it's status as the regional magnet IB.

The prior poster was noting the performing arts facilities would necessitate that magnet being at Northwood, and the pairing of Performing and Visual Arts is a bette solution.

This plan destroys Einstein.

Einstein families have tried to tell that to MCPS. They don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

Churchill and Wooton already have incredible college acceptance rates. Now they’ll get exclusive access to the best IB program in the county, too.

How many students want IB? Very few actually graduate with an IB degree.

They try so hard to try to bring students for IBDP. Aren't most IB students kids of first gen immigrants, diplomat kids, and a cohort of jewish and asian students?

They put the cart before the horse. They need to make sure it is resourced/staffed well enough to provide breadth and high-level depth (see RMIB). With that, it can attract the cohort.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

My kid got into Kennedy IB and chose Einstein because they offered both IB and strong arts. It feels very shady that now both of those are threatened by the proposed diminished enrollment at AEHS.

Northwood is getting a new building with great performing arts facilities so that makes sense. IB at BCC looks like a gift for BCC and Whitman.

Then move VAC & Design to Northwood (maybe Communications, too, to better relieve Blair overcrowding without having to move SMCS) and put Humanities (changed to criteria-based), Medical Science/Healthcare and Languages at Einstein, shifting some of its catchment via the Boundary Studyvto Northwood or B-CC to keep enough room, shifting the Education magnet to Whitman to complement LaSJ/Public Service.

Or, as before, make Einstein the magnet IB.

That hurts kids who want ap and a stronger curriculum. And why should Einstein lose their signature programs which are the draw to Einstein.

Which one hurts? The former would increase those courses and draw capable students to enhance the cohort via the magnets suggested. The latter would do the same via dedication to it's status as the regional magnet IB.

The prior poster was noting the performing arts facilities would necessitate that magnet being at Northwood, and the pairing of Performing and Visual Arts is a bette solution.

This plan destroys Einstein.

How?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

More kids choose Einstein than Kennedy in the DCC choice process. I don’t know if they choose it for Einstein’s IB or because of the music and theatre programs.

Kennedy has had a rough few years. Other than adding the IB magnet right before covid, MCPS hasn’t done much to improve the situation there. Kennedy will be in a region with Walter Johnson, Woodward and Wheaton, which probably won’t help.

But students who want to go to the IBDP at Kennedy would not go through the choice process. They would go through the application process. It does not seem that Einstein's IBDP is stronger than Kennedy's.

MCPS reports AP/IB test data. You have to scroll all the way to the end for IB stats per school but more Einstein students take IB exams than Kennedy students.

Einstein and BCC have about the same number of IB courses each year, though more BCC students take the exams. Why not put county resources into Einstein? The BCC program will be self-sustaining so there will be two good IB programs in the region. But Einstein is losing students in the boundary study so their IB will shrink or end without MCPS support.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2024/240215_2023_AP_IB_Exam_Enrollment%20Part%20and%20Perform..pdf

The regional programs should be the strongest programs that exist. BCC has much better IBDP than Einstein and higher IB test scores. It makes sense to open that up so kids across the region will be able to attend. It should not be just for BCC students.

Half the proposed programs are being built out of thin air. They won’t be strong at all. Putting the strongest programs at schools that are already have more resources, then placing the new, untested, low-demand programs at under-resourced schools means less affluent schools will lose more students than they gain. That will affect staffing formulas, the new programs will flounder, and they’ll become the least popular schools in the region.

How many of you would put your kids on a bus for an hour for an education magnet? Or a nursing assistant magnet? Or even a graphic design magnet?

MCPS is setting some schools up to fail. It sucks.

They need to rejigger staffing to ensure the schools with greater challenges get enough to even out the availability of the rigor sought.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

How popular is the IB program at Einstein? MCPS has a finite amount of money. They should use it wisely, and that means not supporting unpopular programs.

A lot of students take IB classes as there aren't a lot of AP classes. Most do a mix. Very few graduate with an IB degree.

I think one reason IB diplomas aren’t as prevalent at Einstein is because many of the high achievers are also in VAPA and cannot fit all the classes in to get to the IB diploma. I know that is the case for my kid. Many kids take a mix of AP and IB. I’m not sure what APs Einstein is really missing other than the sciences which are IB only (still rigorous).

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Anonymous wrote:In the new plan, Richard Montgomery IB will only be open to RM, Churchill, Wooton, and Rockville.

RMIB and Wootton STEM programs will undoubtedly attract the brightest second-generation immigrants who either inherit high working ethic from their first-generation immigrant parents or have helicopter parents to make sure they study hard. This region will shine and become the new jewry on the top of the crown. Of course it takes years for college admission office to acknowledge that, but in the long run I would see it brings overall benefit to that region. For students who are intimated by cutthroat environment, it's gonna become bad memories.

Churchill and Wooton already have incredible college acceptance rates. Now they’ll get exclusive access to the best IB program in the county, too.

How many students want IB? Very few actually graduate with an IB degree.

They try so hard to try to bring students for IBDP. Aren't most IB students kids of first gen immigrants, diplomat kids, and a cohort of jewish and asian students?

They put the cart before the horse. They need to make sure it is resourced/staffed well enough to provide breadth and high-level depth (see RMIB). With that, it can attract the cohort.

Moat students spend outside resources to do well

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly. Taking IB + Arts away from Einstein is just ridiculous.

I don't know about arts, but Einstein can keep a local IB program if they want. But people here are often complaining that the IB program at Einstein means they can't take the higher-level AP classes they want, so it's not clear to me that that's the best option for Einstein.

Currently, Einstein is under the Kennedy regional umbrella for IB. That application program, though, doesn't draw nearly the way that B-CC's would, as B-CC's complementary advanced offerings are considered better, and it has considerably lower FARMS and EML rates than Kennedy.

This would tend to undermine Einstein's own local IB, reducing the population of advanced learners who, if they stayed, might help the school offer a broader array of IB classes, and at the higher level. It struggles to maintain that, as it is. Before the regional IB at Kennedy, Einstein was clearly the place to go within the DCC for that experience (it may still be, but to a lesser extent). It drew sizeable numbers of IB students from the 5-school catchment -- some who did not get in to county-wide RMIB and some who preferred the more local (and less cutthroat) setting. Changing demographics, overall, the slight shift toward Kennedy's regional program and a decision to stop offering advanced, IB-related courses in 9th & 10th (previously offering cohorting away from the base curriculum in some subjects) all have taken a toll. With the school-choice consortia disappearing, taking away a huge catchment of those who might have chosen Einstein for its IB (open to all, unlike the application programs), in addition to BCC's greater draw away from the remaining local population, it looks as though MCPS's likely recommendations from the Program Analysis would create an untenable situation, leaving Einstein with little chance of providing the IB experience sought within the catchment.

That's from the perspective of Einstein's community. From the perspective of the individual student, it's not as if B-CC's magnet program will be large enough to take all those applying from Einstein (and Northwood and Blair, the other two schools in the DCC heading into Region 1 that currently might access Einstein's IB through the choice process).

Do most people in the DCC prefer Einstein to Kennedy for IB? Kennedy takes nearly all students -- only the vastly unqualified are rejected. I would think people would prefer Kennedy because they offer pre-IB classes.

My kid got into Kennedy IB and chose Einstein because they offered both IB and strong arts. It feels very shady that now both of those are threatened by the proposed diminished enrollment at AEHS.

Northwood is getting a new building with great performing arts facilities so that makes sense. IB at BCC looks like a gift for BCC and Whitman.

Then move VAC & Design to Northwood (maybe Communications, too, to better relieve Blair overcrowding without having to move SMCS) and put Humanities (changed to criteria-based), Medical Science/Healthcare and Languages at Einstein, shifting some of its catchment via the Boundary Studyvto Northwood or B-CC to keep enough room, shifting the Education magnet to Whitman to complement LaSJ/Public Service.

Or, as before, make Einstein the magnet IB.

That hurts kids who want ap and a stronger curriculum. And why should Einstein lose their signature programs which are the draw to Einstein.

Which one hurts? The former would increase those courses and draw capable students to enhance the cohort via the magnets suggested. The latter would do the same via dedication to it's status as the regional magnet IB.

The prior poster was noting the performing arts facilities would necessitate that magnet being at Northwood, and the pairing of Performing and Visual Arts is a bette solution.

This plan destroys Einstein.

Not necessarily. Einstein will probably get a boost of more AP classes