ASD & Tylenol?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tylenol is a schedule B drug because after all these years, they cant prove its safe.
We had other methods to handle fevers, such as cool compresses, that worked. The problem is we now live in nuclear families where no one wants to help care for mothers.

You will not catch me taking a substance with inknown risk during pregnancy or giving to a baby.


Well, then you are risking the devastating side effects of high fever, which include seizures and hearing loss.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Things White House autism announcement did not do:

-Discuss strategies to increase supports and services for autistic people/families
-Highlight why autistic people and families deserve respect, not pity or fear
-Endorse one speck of autism research that is not dangerous pseudoscience


To think that they could have announced further research on the two topics they discussed and everything else you listed instead of turning it into a political point-getting exercise.


And turning it into profit. Guess who owns a company that sells the folate supplement.

They are ignorant, slimy snake oil salesmen who DGAF about the health of our children.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mr. President, acetaminophen does not cause autism. It’s actually one of the only pain relievers considered safe during pregnancy. I’ve taken it myself through multiple pregnancies when I had bad headaches, and doctors recommend it all the time. Even the CDC and Mayo Clinic confirm that acetaminophen is generally safe when used as directed during pregnancy.




Is this a real tweet? If so, wow.

Personally, I do not know what to believe and if I was pregnant today, I would be incredibly stressed out about the mixed messaging.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mr. President, acetaminophen does not cause autism. It’s actually one of the only pain relievers considered safe during pregnancy. I’ve taken it myself through multiple pregnancies when I had bad headaches, and doctors recommend it all the time. Even the CDC and Mayo Clinic confirm that acetaminophen is generally safe when used as directed during pregnancy.




https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tylenol-x-post-2017-pregnancy/

Tylenol does not "make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider."

Tylenol maker Kenvue provided additional context to Snopes via email. The company said, in part, that it does not "make recommendations on taking any medications in pregnancy because that is the job of a healthcare provider." It also described the "consumer response" featured in the post as "incomplete," saying it didn't reflect its full guidance on the safe use of Tylenol. The company reiterated that acetaminophen remains safe for women to take as needed during pregnancy, which is in line with other medical experts' recommendations.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Things White House autism announcement did not do:

-Discuss strategies to increase supports and services for autistic people/families
-Highlight why autistic people and families deserve respect, not pity or fear
-Endorse one speck of autism research that is not dangerous pseudoscience


To think that they could have announced further research on the two topics they discussed and everything else you listed instead of turning it into a political point-getting exercise.


And turning it into profit. Guess who owns a company that sells the folate supplement.

They are ignorant, slimy snake oil salesmen who DGAF about the health of our children.


Stop spreading misinformation. Luecovorin is a generic drug. Several big name pharmaceutical companies make versions of it. Are you saying trump owns Pfizer?
Anonymous
Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tylenol is a schedule B drug because after all these years, they cant prove its safe.
We had other methods to handle fevers, such as cool compresses, that worked. The problem is we now live in nuclear families where no one wants to help care for mothers.

You will not catch me taking a substance with inknown risk during pregnancy or giving to a baby.


NP. When I was pregnant, they were talking about tylenol and autism, or more likely fever (or maybe flu) and autism - I didn't take anything with DC1 but I did take tylenol with DC2. I actually was quite sick with flu with DC2, was peeing pink for a while, didn't tell anyone because I was scared. They both have ASD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.


Stop grasping at straws. Its NOT safe. There isnt a single study in humans that says its safe.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.


Stop grasping at straws. Its NOT safe. There isnt a single study in humans that says its safe.



Well no one has found much in the way of harm when taken at recommended doses, so that’s about as close as you are going to get to “safe.” Correlation is NOT causation. For all we know, whatever makes kids autistic could also cause severe pain in pregnancy, causing someone to reach for Tylenol. And sibling studies have not found the same links.

Should you take it multiple times per day for every discomfort? Probably not. Should you consider taking it if you have a prolonged 103 fever while pregnant? Yes, yes you should, unless you really want to miscarry or have a child who has the brain of an infant forever.

Nothing is 100% safe, and that includes the “natural” crap in your medicine cabinet. But the risks of Tylenol by any measure are exceptionally low. Risk benefit analysis, people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tylenol is a schedule B drug because after all these years, they cant prove its safe.
We had other methods to handle fevers, such as cool compresses, that worked. The problem is we now live in nuclear families where no one wants to help care for mothers.

You will not catch me taking a substance with inknown risk during pregnancy or giving to a baby.


Pregnancy category B: Acetaminophen is classified as Pregnancy Category B, meaning animal studies haven’t shown risk to the fetus, but human studies are limited.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Things White House autism announcement did not do:

-Discuss strategies to increase supports and services for autistic people/families
-Highlight why autistic people and families deserve respect, not pity or fear
-Endorse one speck of autism research that is not dangerous pseudoscience


To think that they could have announced further research on the two topics they discussed and everything else you listed instead of turning it into a political point-getting exercise.


And turning it into profit. Guess who owns a company that sells the folate supplement.

They are ignorant, slimy snake oil salesmen who DGAF about the health of our children.


Stop spreading misinformation. Luecovorin is a generic drug. Several big name pharmaceutical companies make versions of it. Are you saying trump owns Pfizer?


Snake Oil salesman and Medicaid Administrator Mehmet Oz is an investor in iHerb, which sells luecovorin.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fda-leucovorin-dr-oz-2134011
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.


Stop grasping at straws. Its NOT safe. There isnt a single study in humans that says its safe.



Well no one has found much in the way of harm when taken at recommended doses, so that’s about as close as you are going to get to “safe.” Correlation is NOT causation. For all we know, whatever makes kids autistic could also cause severe pain in pregnancy, causing someone to reach for Tylenol. And sibling studies have not found the same links.

Should you take it multiple times per day for every discomfort? Probably not. Should you consider taking it if you have a prolonged 103 fever while pregnant? Yes, yes you should, unless you really want to miscarry or have a child who has the brain of an infant forever.

Nothing is 100% safe, and that includes the “natural” crap in your medicine cabinet. But the risks of Tylenol by any measure are exceptionally low. Risk benefit analysis, people.


Headache or autism seems like an easy risk benefit analysis 🧐
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.


Stop grasping at straws. Its NOT safe. There isnt a single study in humans that says its safe.



Well no one has found much in the way of harm when taken at recommended doses, so that’s about as close as you are going to get to “safe.” Correlation is NOT causation. For all we know, whatever makes kids autistic could also cause severe pain in pregnancy, causing someone to reach for Tylenol. And sibling studies have not found the same links.

Should you take it multiple times per day for every discomfort? Probably not. Should you consider taking it if you have a prolonged 103 fever while pregnant? Yes, yes you should, unless you really want to miscarry or have a child who has the brain of an infant forever.

Nothing is 100% safe, and that includes the “natural” crap in your medicine cabinet. But the risks of Tylenol by any measure are exceptionally low. Risk benefit analysis, people.


Headache or autism seems like an easy risk benefit analysis 🧐


Good thing it’s not that simple.

Also, fever is likely be way more harmful to the fetus than acetaminophen. And we know the risks of high fever. But you do you, I guess.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Repeat after me:

Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation
Correlation is not causation

And if you still believe correlation is causation, please google spurious correlations.


Stop grasping at straws. Its NOT safe. There isnt a single study in humans that says its safe.



Well no one has found much in the way of harm when taken at recommended doses, so that’s about as close as you are going to get to “safe.” Correlation is NOT causation. For all we know, whatever makes kids autistic could also cause severe pain in pregnancy, causing someone to reach for Tylenol. And sibling studies have not found the same links.

Should you take it multiple times per day for every discomfort? Probably not. Should you consider taking it if you have a prolonged 103 fever while pregnant? Yes, yes you should, unless you really want to miscarry or have a child who has the brain of an infant forever.

Nothing is 100% safe, and that includes the “natural” crap in your medicine cabinet. But the risks of Tylenol by any measure are exceptionally low. Risk benefit analysis, people.


Headache or autism seems like an easy risk benefit analysis 🧐


Good thing it’s not that simple.

Also, fever is likely be way more harmful to the fetus than acetaminophen. And we know the risks of high fever. But you do you, I guess.


Do you have a study on that?
Anonymous
So it turns out there are exactly zero human studies on the neurological effects of acetaminophen either in pregnancy or childhood.
Its untested.
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