H1B application fees now cost $100k

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Anonymous wrote:It’s terrible. If you were born American, with all the privileges that comes with that lottery win, and you STILL can’t compete with people who grew up in war zones, or with food/water/medicine shortages, and who aced their SATs/MCATs/GREs in a SECOND, non-native language, what does that say about you?!
We shouldn’t artificially be propping up mediocrity, while brilliant foreigners go to the rest of the developed world and bring their skills and intellect elsewhere.

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Work should go to wherever and whomever can do it most efficiently with the most efficient use of resources. We shouldn't be propping up something here. Also, now everyone I know is just going to open subsidiaries or small businesses overseas, likely in Ireland or somewhere with an equally business friendly infrastructure and tax code and hiring incentives. This will all result in a net loss of jobs as well as a dumbing down of our workforce, big hits to housing markets in certain areas.

That's a truly capitalist take on it for sure.
But this "most efficient" use of resources is artificial for sure, and that's why it hasn't worked unregulated (or lightly regulated as it's been historically). It pushes down wages and creates an "indentured servitude" for the population that relies on these to stay in the country. Do you not believe that part is clear?

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.

The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.

They will just have people stay in India. They use the US as an incentive if people want to move but they still pay them much less here.

More than 70 percent of H-1B visa holders in the 2024 fiscal year were born in India. Those are jobs that Americans should have had.

They are far better educated and they can pay them less.

Far better educated?

[Anonymous]

Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.

The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.

They will just have people stay in India. They use the US as an incentive if people want to move but they still pay them much less here.

More than 70 percent of H-1B visa holders in the 2024 fiscal year were born in India. Those are jobs that Americans should have had.

They are far better educated and they can pay them less.

Far better educated?

No they’re not better educated. Instead Indians are far more desperate for job opportunities their country is unable to provide. Tech jobs are a loophole they have been exploiting for many years. If they fail to obtain H1B, they come illegally thru southern borders or over stay their student visas. It’s time to deport these folks.

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This has been abused for years. I do think this is a step in the right direction.

There’s also abuse in the medical side too. Hospitals are saying there’s not enough doctors and nurses but have you tried getting into these programs? So many college students get locked out because there aren’t spots. And then hospitals hire from overseas where the new doctors don’t have $100-$200k in student loans and can take lower paying specialties. It’s like we’re setting our students up for failure. They can’t get in and when they do they’re saddled with heavy student loans.

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The number of residency spots need to be increased. The American Medical Association (AMA) actively lobbies for limits on residency spots. That needs to change. There is a huge demand for 7 or 8 year direct medical admissions programs and students are clamoring to get into these.

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If they are so good let the employer pay an extra 100k for them

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Heard TACO folded again. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don’t know anything about the tech industry but I’m worried that we will lose a lot of good doctors. Good specialists are hard to find and getting an appointment with one takes a while. Adding a $100,000 a year fee means that many hospitals will have to let them go. And who will they be replaced with? It’s not like there is a line of unemployed specialists waiting to take the job. And medicine is based on expertise and some doctors are better than others. At the very least an exception should be made for doctors and ppl in research positions.

Majority of IMG doctors get J1 visa and hospitals aren't capped for H1B anyways so they should be okay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.

You did not read Project 2025 idiot.

This will not change unemployment rates at all.

[Anonymous]

Big companies who transfer employees internationally, often use L1 visa. H1B is usually for new recruits.

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Unlike Melania Trump, everyone isn't eligible for Einstein visa.

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Anonymous wrote:I came here as F1 and then did OPT. I couldn't get anyone to sponsor me for H1B visa. I then met my husband and subsequently got a green card. I cannot speak for everyone, but when I was interviewing it was clear that some companies do have a preference for hiring students who need visa sponsorship. During the interviews you get the sense that you NEED them and they are confident if they extend you an offer, you will likely accept whatever package they will offer you.

Wow not so for me! Things might have changed.

Came here on F1 30+ years ago, got a job on OPT, company sponsored H1, extension and green card. I know that I was not paid as much as some others, but I had a racist jerk of a boss. My husband who followed the sane path as me did very well financially. He was not taken advantage of at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Ashburn real estate is getting ready to tank. Does this impact current H1B visa holders?

Yes, once they leave, they will put travel bans on employees. But, this is good news for our country.

Most of these families have children who are Americans. What do you propose we do about them? Are you going to deport the Indians and leave their children in internment camps?

Unless its backdated why would people have to leave? Worst case, they can take pay cuts or go back and kids can come back on their own once they are 18.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.

You did not read Project 2025 idiot.

This will not change unemployment rates at all.

Call other people "idiot" only says you are the real idiot!

I don't care about what project 2025 says. It is a fact that US citizens' jobs have been taken by H1Bs whose only advantage is they accept lower salaries. This only benefits greedy coporations, not American people.