H1B application fees now cost $100k

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Anonymous wrote:It’s terrible. If you were born American, with all the privileges that comes with that lottery win, and you STILL can’t compete with people who grew up in war zones, or with food/water/medicine shortages, and who aced their SATs/MCATs/GREs in a SECOND, non-native language, what does that say about you?!
We shouldn’t artificially be propping up mediocrity, while brilliant foreigners go to the rest of the developed world and bring their skills and intellect elsewhere.


To be fair, the private schools in India are much better than even US private schools. No teaching to the lowest common denominator equity BS, and the familirs are invested because they view it as their ticket out of poverty.

How are the poor in India paying for private school education?


Even private school in India is affordable to the middle class. I went to a private engineering school and my single mom was able to pay everything. In India, nobody gets need based or merit based aid (that I heard of anyway!) and if someone just wants to attended a local college for a BS or something, it’s very cheap! You live with your parents and commute. Very few colleges have residential requirements. It’s a completely different system.
Anonymous
I really don't have an issue with this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.


+1


Now read Project 2025 and get back to finding your brain cells.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fee is every year.

And the tech bros love trump so hopefully they are happy about this!


100k every year?
Are you sure.
Trump wasn’t happy with the PM of India and wanted to punish him.
If he gets a phone call from India he will cancel it after a year.
Anonymous
Can’t imagine that I care. If you are so highly skilled, you can find a job anywhere. There are highly paid positions in every country.
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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know anything about the tech industry but I’m worried that we will lose a lot of good doctors. Good specialists are hard to find and getting an appointment with one takes a while. Adding a $100,000 a year fee means that many hospitals will have to let them go. And who will they be replaced with? It’s not like there is a line of unemployed specialists waiting to take the job. And medicine is based on expertise and some doctors are better than others. At the very least an exception should be made for doctors and ppl in research positions.


Truly exceptional talents can get eb1 and obtain green card on a fast track.
H1B is not that special.
Majority of IMG doctors get J1 visa and hospitals aren't capped for H1B anyways so they should be okay.
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Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.


The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.


They will just have people stay in India. They use the US as an incentive if people want to move but they still pay them much less here.


More than 70 percent of H-1B visa holders in the 2024 fiscal year were born in India. Those are jobs that Americans should have had.


They are far better educated and they can pay them less.


Far better educated?
No they’re not better educated. Instead Indians are far more desperate for job opportunities their country is unable to provide. Tech jobs are a loophole they have been exploiting for many years. If they fail to obtain H1B, they come illegally thru southern borders or over stay their student visas. It’s time to deport these folks.


Why? India has such healthy population, a lot of young people, untapped market opportunities and you are telling us they can’t provide high paying jobs? BS.
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Anonymous wrote:Don’t know anything about the tech industry but I’m worried that we will lose a lot of good doctors. Good specialists are hard to find and getting an appointment with one takes a while. Adding a $100,000 a year fee means that many hospitals will have to let them go. And who will they be replaced with? It’s not like there is a line of unemployed specialists waiting to take the job. And medicine is based on expertise and some doctors are better than others. At the very least an exception should be made for doctors and ppl in research positions.

Doctors are not impacted by this new H1B visa order. They come in under the J-1 visa requirements. https://www.ecfmg.org/evsp/evsprfgd.pdf


Residents are H1B.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t know anything about the tech industry but I’m worried that we will lose a lot of good doctors. Good specialists are hard to find and getting an appointment with one takes a while. Adding a $100,000 a year fee means that many hospitals will have to let them go. And who will they be replaced with? It’s not like there is a line of unemployed specialists waiting to take the job. And medicine is based on expertise and some doctors are better than others. At the very least an exception should be made for doctors and ppl in research positions.

Doctors are not impacted by this new H1B visa order. They come in under the J-1 visa requirements. https://www.ecfmg.org/evsp/evsprfgd.pdf


Residents are H1B.


Why would the US need to bring new residents in under H1B?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.


But they are working and living in US, right? So, the low salaries in dollars can support them in the US quite well. These people are then able to build wealth within just 10-15 years of being here. Why don't we work for very low salaries in tech jobs like them? We have an edge over them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don’t know anything about the tech industry but I’m worried that we will lose a lot of good doctors. Good specialists are hard to find and getting an appointment with one takes a while. Adding a $100,000 a year fee means that many hospitals will have to let them go. And who will they be replaced with? It’s not like there is a line of unemployed specialists waiting to take the job. And medicine is based on expertise and some doctors are better than others. At the very least an exception should be made for doctors and ppl in research positions.

Doctors are not impacted by this new H1B visa order. They come in under the J-1 visa requirements. https://www.ecfmg.org/evsp/evsprfgd.pdf


Residents are H1B.


Why would the US need to bring new residents in under H1B?


Because they are more intelligent and able to work in STEM field for lower salary. They are affordable workers that the Republican White CEOs LOVE, LOVE, LOVE!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To be fair, companies need less workers today. A lot of people forget this key fact. And further these same workers don't need those H1B visa holders
to be physically present here. These same people can do the work remotely.

If you remove every single H1B workers, companies will simply further accelerate automation and outsource more work.

American students are sadly not going to benefit. The jobs that will be vacated will simply be automated and/or outsourced.

Capitalism does not care about nationalism or patriotism. Capitalism worships $$.


The problem I have with the remote work argument is that it is always cheaper to hire someone in India or the Philippines or wherever.

If they thought the H1B people could do the job just as well overseas they never would have sponsored them from the start.

I mean what’s the current logic behind paying the current H1 fees today and then paying these folks say $100k when you would pay them like $30k back in India? Thats the current discount.


They will just have people stay in India. They use the US as an incentive if people want to move but they still pay them much less here.


More than 70 percent of H-1B visa holders in the 2024 fiscal year were born in India. Those are jobs that Americans should have had.


They are far better educated and they can pay them less.


Far better educated?


In tech, a lot of the employees don't have related degrees. They do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Support this! Too many abuses in the H1B process. US citizens new college/master graduates can't get a job while H1B foreigners got jobs, not becasue they are better (they are NOT), but becasue those people are willing to accept very low salaries.


You can accept a lower paying job... go for it.
Anonymous
We don't have enough medical schools to produce enough doctors.
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