"Strict rules can foster calm classrooms. But some students pay the price" https://www.npr.org/2025/09/25/nx-s1-5459934/school-students-disabilities-discipline This is the inherent catch-22. Either put kids who don't belong in a normal classroom to potentially help them, while stunting normal kids so much that parents pine for schools like ATS; or put kids in classrooms according to their relative ability to create a better homeostasis and allow most schools to function more traditionally as a learning institution and not a social engineering lab. |
We're not at ATS, but the story I have heard about the APS math curriculum is that they have to teach to the Virginia Standards of Learning and there is no off the shelf curriculum that matches that exactly. That's why they are all using piecemeal materials to teach the required standards. I'm not sure if that's true, if so it seems like every single district in the state has the same problem to solve. |
Thanks! This is helpful to know |
ATS is nothing like the school in the article. |
That is 100% true. Seems to me like would be easier if we just. Went. Common. Core! - APS teacher |
Common Core is a sham and is nearly content-free. They deliberately set the bar so low that every student in every state will pass. No thanks. |
Since we did not, and given you have the inside view, what would you do to improve the math curriculum if you were the superintendent? The math curriculum needs to change but changing it seems to be quite complicated :/ |
Great question. (I’m the PP above.) It seems difficult to believe that VA doesn’t have enough purchasing power to find a quality program that matches our standards. Or at the very least, work with other states to buy something really close. I just checked https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/common-core-states, which has some very interesting info. Really, this should be a state responsibility and not left to school districts to deal with. |
That is pure ignorance but true.ATS is an exception because of the school culture.We left a N. Arlington school that has gone downhill with kids behaviors (bullhorns at lunch to keep order), no transparency with school work(no graded work), click culture, lack of diversity, and little continuity of learning (no homework). Many parents of No Arlington elementary schools are not feeling the no homework policy. These kids suffer in middle school with a huge culture shock on exception. We don't regret moving our kid. |
| My favorite quote from when my kids were in a neighborhood school and we’d have to listen to the ATS parents at soccer practice, “I’d never send my kids to a school with kids with the type of parents that send their kids to ATS.” |
That’s great. We wouldn’t want to be with your type either then. |
Different parts of the US do this differently. Much of New England has small local school districts, each choosing its own curriculum supplier, within broad guidelines from its state. Texas is the other extreme, where the curriculum suppliers are chosen by the state and local school systems have little flexibility about suppliers. One state's approach is not always better than another state's approach. Virginia is closer to the New England model. VA recently has required that a Science of Reading curriculum be used for ELA -- and that the Lucy Calkins / Whole Language / Balanced Literacy approach must not be used. For VA, that is fairly prescriptive. In most subjects, VA sets requirements for what to cover, both by subject and by grade, but it gives local schools latitude about their curriculum supplier. |
ATS parents generally don't talk about being at ATS with others for this reason, your jealously and soccer teams are largely ES based so, unless this is travel, you are lying. |
My exposure is to parents from a different APS option school... but I know exactly what they mean. It's not all of the parents by any means, but there are a subset of parents who say things like the option schools are "public school +" that are absolutely insufferable. If you don't believe me go look in the archives for the threads protesting the great site swap of 2021. |
But how much does that even matter when the bar is set so low to begin with? I mean the SOL content expectation is way too easy in every subject and many can't or won't teach past it for a variety of reasons. |