TJ Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

How does TJ 2025 college admission compare with other high schools, like Langley, McLean and Woodson? It was said both Langley and Woodson have graduates going to MIT. What about other top universities?

I am a big critic of the new TJ admissions process but there is really no comparison between TJ and any other VA high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

You assume that it's the same sample size.

I'm just saying that you can't draw too much from limited information. I get that some people are fine with "alternate facts" but I prefer to not jump to conclusions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

You assume that it's the same sample size.

I'm just saying that you can't draw too much from limited information. I get that some people are fine with "alternate facts" but I prefer to not jump to conclusions.

GMU has never been higher than 4th in in-state matriculations (always behind UVA, W&M, and VT), but it was first this year. That point seems significant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

You assume that it's the same sample size.

I'm just saying that you can't draw too much from limited information. I get that some people are fine with "alternate facts" but I prefer to not jump to conclusions.

GMU has never been higher than 4th in in-state matriculations (always behind UVA, W&M, and VT), but it was first this year. That point seems significant.

We don’t really know that. The data is insufficient.

Given the shift in family incomes, it seems feasible that matriculations will be more driven by finances going forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

You assume that it's the same sample size.

I'm just saying that you can't draw too much from limited information. I get that some people are fine with "alternate facts" but I prefer to not jump to conclusions.

GMU has never been higher than 4th in in-state matriculations (always behind UVA, W&M, and VT), but it was first this year. That point seems significant.

We don’t really know that. The data is insufficient.

Given the shift in family incomes, it seems feasible that matriculations will be more driven by finances going forward.

OK. GMU has never been higher than 4th among Virginia publics for the 70% or so of matriculations that appear in TJ Senior issue.

If the other Virginia schools were an option, would GMU actually be cheaper other than for full pay given financial aid practices?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

You assume that it's the same sample size.

I'm just saying that you can't draw too much from limited information. I get that some people are fine with "alternate facts" but I prefer to not jump to conclusions.

GMU has never been higher than 4th in in-state matriculations (always behind UVA, W&M, and VT), but it was first this year. That point seems significant.

We don’t really know that. The data is insufficient.

Given the shift in family incomes, it seems feasible that matriculations will be more driven by finances going forward.

OK. GMU has never been higher than 4th among Virginia publics for the 70% or so of matriculations that appear in TJ Senior issue.

If the other Virginia schools were an option, would GMU actually be cheaper other than for full pay given financial aid practices?

It’s local so kids could commute to save room/board.

[Anonymous]

269 / 501 = 54%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:269 / 501 = 54%

If it is a random sample, that is huge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

Class 2023 destinations from TJToday:

UVA - 44
VT - 23
W&M - 24
GMU - 5

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 6
Chapel Hill - 7
Carnegie Mellon - 9
Penn - 5
Cornell - 7
MIT - 3
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 14
Purdue - 17
Michigan - 10
Stanford - 1

It likely correlates to standardized test scores.

All of the matriculations aren’t listed so you can’t make any conclusions from that.

You don't need all of them. You just need a reasonable representative sample size.

We don’t know that the list from this year (or prior years) was reasonably representative. The list is incomplete.

There is also a lot of variation from year to year and many recent changes on the college admissions front. e.g., Class of 2023 had more options for test optional than the Class of 2024.

It’d be more meaningful to look at the full data set over a period of time.

its the same sample size as just about every other year.

You are trying to find solace in the possibility that this year's sample is wildly less representative than the previous years.
Listen, none of these are bad schools and we are talking about extremely selective colleges. But the shifts in matriculation away from UVA, VY and W&M and towards JMU and GMU indicates that the academic achievement of the 2025 class is different than previous years.

Possibly. But we don’t know the whole story. You don’t know where students were admitted. There are many reasons why someone may select a college - including financial.

Given the increased number of students who come from less wealthy areas of FCPS and the increased number of students who qualify for FRM, we should expect a shift in college matriculations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:269 / 501 = 54%

If it is a random sample, that is huge.

It’s not random.

[Anonymous]

And it’s also not “70%”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

How does TJ 2025 college admission compare with other high schools, like Langley, McLean and Woodson? It was said both Langley and Woodson have graduates going to MIT. What about other top universities?

I am a big critic of the new TJ admissions process but there is really no comparison between TJ and any other VA high school.

Please discuss. It seems true based schools fare better than TJ in recent years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

How does TJ 2025 college admission compare with other high schools, like Langley, McLean and Woodson? It was said both Langley and Woodson have graduates going to MIT. What about other top universities?

Going from the Instagram pages, Langley and McLean each had at least 3 kids going to Stanford, McLean had one or more kids going to MIT and all the Ivies except Harvard, and Langley had one or more kids going to MIT and all the Ivies except Penn and Princeton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not impressive and definitely a change from previous years. A sampling from the print Senior edition of TJ Today:

UVA - 20
VT - 13
W&M - 14
GMU - 21

Georgetown - 8
Princeton - 4
Duke - 2
Chapel Hill - 1
Carnegie Mellon - 4
Penn - 4
Cornell - 5
MIT - 2
Harvard - 5
Chicago - 9
Purdue - 19
Michigan - 5
Stanford - 1

How does TJ 2025 college admission compare with other high schools, like Langley, McLean and Woodson? It was said both Langley and Woodson have graduates going to MIT. What about other top universities?

Going from the Instagram pages, Langley and McLean each had at least 3 kids going to Stanford, McLean had one or more kids going to MIT and all the Ivies except Harvard, and Langley had one or more kids going to MIT and all the Ivies except Penn and Princeton.

Legacy, urm, fgli, athlete, and other hooks. This is how they are all getting in, TJ and base. The schools are not doing anything special.