Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

No one said that. But by being a self-imposed public figure, she can't reasonably expect the same level of privacy a random family would get. And neither should her influencer status shield her husband from prosecution. We can't know if that played a role or not in the decision not to prosecute him, despite police recommendation to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.

Do all those parents have easy to open doors to unfenced/uncovered pools with no alarms or and drowning prevention measures whatsoever? When my kids were 3 years old we still had baby gates on all the stairs, outlet covers, cabinet locks, furniture secured to the wall and bolts on exterior doors they couldn't operate. Having a newborn is not an excuse for neglecting another child either.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

MEAN? Grow the f up. There is nothing mean about any of this.

People are angry because a child died because adults cared more about themselves and their interests than those of the safety of their children.

I don't know a single person with a pool who doesn't have a fence up protecting their kids from the danger. I don't know a single person who would be complacent that their 3 year old could open the door to the pool.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

While I would ordinarily be inclined to agree, the strange obsession with this accident is creepy. I find it deeply disturbing, and perhaps strong privacy protections is the only way to address that.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

I'm sure you've never made any mistakes or taken any unnecessary risks...

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No. Not influencers or movie stars or politicians. The ONLY people where it should maybe make sense is for people who are famous not by their own choice (eg their parent chose to be famous but they tried to hide from the spotlight the entire time).

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.

Your post is utter bull shite and you know it. Scrolling on your phone while your kids are playing near you is one thing. Ignoring a 3 year old who is outside alone by a pool while you are busy placing bets is criminal negligence.

Are you getting paid by this family? The way you so dishonestly twist things to make dad seem sympathetic is telling.

Not a single parent I know with a pool would allow a 3 year old to be outside by a pool by themselves. Not a single parent I know has a pool without a safety fence. Not a single parent I know would be ok with the 3 year old being able to slip outside by the pool by themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

She probably wipes for them.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.

Your post is utter bull shite and you know it. Scrolling on your phone while your kids are playing near you is one thing. Ignoring a 3 year old who is outside alone by a pool while you are busy placing bets is criminal negligence.

Are you getting paid by this family? The way you so dishonestly twist things to make dad seem sympathetic is telling.

Not a single parent I know with a pool would allow a 3 year old to be outside by a pool by themselves. Not a single parent I know has a pool without a safety fence. Not a single parent I know would be ok with the 3 year old being able to slip outside by the pool by themselves.

Yet backyard drowning deaths happen all summer long, this isn’t even the most recent death. What does it matter who your particular friends are?

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

False equivalence. Did you even minimally babyproof your house? Do you have gates on stairs and chemicals out of reach? Normal parents take normal recommended precautions. This is nothing to do with watching your kid "every second" and everything to do with creating a reasonably safe environment. No reasonable person would consider this a safe environment. I wouldn't even bring my young children to VISIT a house with an unsecured pool.

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

Not pp. What a childish response. They are expecting to be treated differently from other people who go through this. That is hypocritical and disgusting. Do you think the father in this case should be charged with neglect?

Taking your eyes off your kid for a few minutes is not neglect. Every parent has done it.

Not with a totally unsecured, fully accessible pool in the backyard. You sound like a terrible parent if you think this is normal parenting.

Normal parenting is not watching your kids eyes wide open 24/7. Do you even have kids?

False equivalence. Did you even minimally babyproof your house? Do you have gates on stairs and chemicals out of reach? Normal parents take normal recommended precautions. This is nothing to do with watching your kid "every second" and everything to do with creating a reasonably safe environment. No reasonable person would consider this a safe environment. I wouldn't even bring my young children to VISIT a house with an unsecured pool.

You’re ripe for a fall off that pedestal.