Should influencers be allowed to sue to block public records requests?

[Anonymous]

These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people who live in their area haven't stopped talking since the accident. It sounds pretty horrific if true. Not just because the pool wasnt fenced but because the husband (who was in the house while she went out) wasn't the one to notice. I dont think their marriage will survive

Everything I have seen says he called 911. He was in the house with the newborn. Where did you see that he wasn’t the one to notice and she called 911?

The dog noticed 9 minutes before the dad. Yes the dad did call 911… but 9 minutes?! When I had toddlers, if my house was quiet for even 2 minutes, I checked on what they were doing. (And I didn’t have a pool.) 9 minutes is insane. And it sounds like he only checked because he saw the dog acting weird around the pool.

No wonder she wanted to keep this private. She had no concerns about her son’s privacy while he was alive, but sure, NOW she’s worried about his privacy... more like worried her husband looks like a terrible father.

Yep agree. They will probably pop out some more kids and “heal.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

If he were not wealthy and white, he would most definitely be prosecuted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

If he were not wealthy and white, he would most definitely be prosecuted.

And can you imagine if it were a nanny?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do they just have the one kid? It’s kind of crazy if so if the dad couldn’t keep an eye on him.

No they also have a younger child, who was an infant at the time. This is likely one factor in why they chose not to prosecute -- the dad could scapegoat the infant, saying he was distracted by caring for the younger child and/or that general sleeplessness and stress from having a baby at home led to the lapse in judgment. Yes the other evidence contradicts this (the dad was watching an NBA game with enough focus that he could stop to place a bet on the game online when all this was happening, so it's unlikely he was distracted or engrossed in the baby) but criminal negligence can be hard to prove and this could be mitigating enough to make it a hard case to try.

The existence of the baby will also make jurors think about what happens to that child if the dad (or both parents) were convicted in the older child's death. Jurors aren't supposed to consider stuff like that but they always do.

I think if there were not also a younger child in the picture, it is much more likely they would have been prosecuted. The dad for sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

This is simplistic.

Influencers who post photos/videos of their kids use their children for profit. So yes, there tends to be heightened scrutiny of their parenting because many people view this as exploitative to start.

Also, this thread was started because they were looking to seal all the records related to their son's death. This seems hypocritical, to insist on privacy in this instance when there has not been much respect for their children's privacy prior to this horrible event.

Also, it appears they had no safety measures in place regarding their pool, despite having two kids under 5 in the house. That on its own is alarming, but the fact that she's an influencer makes you wonder if this was a style choice made for photos/videos at home. She posts tons of photos in their backyard, which has a large lawn, fruit trees, a play set and a patio, all adjacent to the pool. Putting up a fence enclosure or covering the pool would look less visually appealing. But a fence would have saved her son's life. That's an aspect to this that is directly related to her being an influencer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

People were commenting on her posts always saying they needed to put up a pool fence, and she would delete the comments and block them. And every year there are stories about tragic drownings. This was an entirely preventable disaster if they had just had any amount of pool security.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the judges are deciding these cases on an individual level according to the facts. So, I'll trust them to make the decisions.

I would like the judge to say to her, “oh, so you think there is too much public interest in the death of your child? Maybe you should have thought about that before selling your family for profit.”

Here is a novel idea. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

But then how would they get rich influencing? Their entire business model depends on people not minding their business.

That is also none of your business. I think it's kind of gross that people want these records.

If the info is out there concerning everyone else, there is something absolutely gross, dishonest, abusive about her trying to hide what is public information. 911 calls are public. She has no right to block those and I don't give one crap about what you think of people who listen to them.

It also *is* other people's business when a child dies for preventable reasons. If there's a police report, there is almost always a public interest in releasing it. In this case:

- releasing the police report helps disseminate information about pool safety and might alert other parents with backyard pools to how quickly a child can die because you have failed to secure your pool or supervise the child closely enough. Releasing the report can save lives.

- alerts others in the community to the fact that this family has an unsecured pool and a history of failing to supervise kids. Not only will this let others know that their kids are not safe at these people's house, but it might make them more thoughtful about taking their kids to other homes and know better what to look for or ask about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

So they should be punished extra harshly because you don’t like their lifestyle or career?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These comments are so mean.

Emilie was/is considered one of the more normal and down to earth mom 'influencers' too. A wholesome sweetheart. Just tragic.

Tragic for her. Her deadbeat husband was betting on basketball rather than parenting. He’s criminally negligent and lucky he isn’t being charged.

PP here. I can definitely see this. But she is getting hammered just for being an 'influencer'.

She should be hammered for exploiting her child and not having a fence around the pool.

She is monetizing her "happy family" and her "parenting." She put it all out there, repeatedly for money. She doesn't then get to be shocked and offended there is extra scrutiny here. Especially when it turns out her "perfect happy family" was really just for show. They didn't properly protect their children from a known hazard and her DH seems like a sperm-donor father who isn't engaged in parenting.

He clearly wasn’t attentive for those 9 minutes but he was home with a toddler and newborn while she was out for lunch with friends. Doesn’t sound like a father not engaged in parenting. I bet if you tracked cell phone / screen use of mothers at home with their kids you would find just as many non attentive gaps in parenting. It isn’t uncommon for parents to scroll or watch something while parenting.