What school, which is generally considered good,

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NYU. Not ok to withhold diplomas over war crime outrage.

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Emory, because I am still irate about an article I read, discussing how they'd admitted a poor, relatively high performing first gen kid from Texas and proceeded to ruin her life.

Link?? Never heard about this! (considering Emory for DS)

Don't have the link ready, but story published probably around 2018. Followed around three poor Hispanic girls with pretty good SAT scores.The Emory attendee's SATs were still notably below the Emory average, though. Her fiancee', who worked for an auto dealership, co-signed the (very large) loan freshman year. Student had to get a job, because poor. Student had to work *really* hard in class at the very least because of a lack of preparation in her not very good school district. Combination started burning her out, and left her not enough time to e.g. figure out that there were other sources of money she could've tapped. Relationship with fiancee broke down, but he was still on the hook for $30K or whatever the number was. Lots of social difficulties relating to the other kids. Went back next year. More things went south. Stopped attending classes. Failed out, owing massive sums of money and entirely burnt out on college.

But the important thing is Emory got to feel really good about itself for admitting a poor first-gen Hispanic girl, a talented writer, who, if she'd gone to a cheaper, less competitive school, could've shined.

So it sounds like you're just anti Affirmative action, fail to see what Emory did wrong here.

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what a stupid thread

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No schools in southern red states.

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Emory, because I am still irate about an article I read, discussing how they'd admitted a poor, relatively high performing first gen kid from Texas and proceeded to ruin her life.

Link?? Never heard about this! (considering Emory for DS)

Don't have the link ready, but story published probably around 2018. Followed around three poor Hispanic girls with pretty good SAT scores.The Emory attendee's SATs were still notably below the Emory average, though. Her fiancee', who worked for an auto dealership, co-signed the (very large) loan freshman year. Student had to get a job, because poor. Student had to work *really* hard in class at the very least because of a lack of preparation in her not very good school district. Combination started burning her out, and left her not enough time to e.g. figure out that there were other sources of money she could've tapped. Relationship with fiancee broke down, but he was still on the hook for $30K or whatever the number was. Lots of social difficulties relating to the other kids. Went back next year. More things went south. Stopped attending classes. Failed out, owing massive sums of money and entirely burnt out on college.

But the important thing is Emory got to feel really good about itself for admitting a poor first-gen Hispanic girl, a talented writer, who, if she'd gone to a cheaper, less competitive school, could've shined.

Something seems fishy about this. Emory launched its no-loan policy for needy kids in 2007.

This person doesn’t sound like a student that would have to take out any loans.

From the article: " But Angelica had failed to complete all the financial aid forms."

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Anonymous wrote:No schools in southern red states.

Wrong answer. They are the most beautiful and perfect states and schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory, because I am still irate about an article I read, discussing how they'd admitted a poor, relatively high performing first gen kid from Texas and proceeded to ruin her life.

Harvard, because for decades institutionally they did not care about the education of their undergraduates, and now the undergraduates don't care either, spending all their spare time trying to network with each other.

Howard, which is ineptly run and coasting off a reputation that has been unjustified since at least desegregation, and also sounds too much like "Harvard" for my tastes.

Duke, which has never done any soul searching about how it tried to ruin the lives of its own lacrosse players.

NYU, which is wildly overpriced and full of people who think NYU is a good idea.

Columbia, which even before the latest round of protests was famous for raking in a ton of cash by running scam master's degrees on the gullible.

What would you like Duke to have done. There were lots of lawsuits and the kids got paid and that also likely limits what Duke can say or do. That is a really dumb reason to dislike a school. As are most of your reasons for other schools. Please tell us where you went so we can dislike it for no good reason. If you even went to college.

You are so wrong. On everything.

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This Emory story was from 2012 and since that time all the elite schools have taken additional steps to help poor/first gen kids.

For example, work study kids no longer are assigned dining service or other similar “menial” jobs. Used to be for school events that charged admission, that FA kids had to go to a specific ticket window for their free tickets so it was clear to all who the FA kids were…now events think are all free and wrapped into student fees. Far more academic supports.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown. I dislike the open curriculum.

Why?

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Columbia because it’s so stressful, the students are unfriendly, and the administration is awful

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Anonymous wrote:No schools in southern red states.

Sorry your kid didn't get into an SEC school.

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The naval academy. What are you doing if you're banning books in college libraries? Un-American and even worse that it happened at one of our service academies. Terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m ok paying for access to kids who come from wealthy families.

Please tell me this is a joke, right? Right??

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Emory, because I am still irate about an article I read, discussing how they'd admitted a poor, relatively high performing first gen kid from Texas and proceeded to ruin her life.

Link?? Never heard about this! (considering Emory for DS)

Don't have the link ready, but story published probably around 2018. Followed around three poor Hispanic girls with pretty good SAT scores.The Emory attendee's SATs were still notably below the Emory average, though. Her fiancee', who worked for an auto dealership, co-signed the (very large) loan freshman year. Student had to get a job, because poor. Student had to work *really* hard in class at the very least because of a lack of preparation in her not very good school district. Combination started burning her out, and left her not enough time to e.g. figure out that there were other sources of money she could've tapped. Relationship with fiancee broke down, but he was still on the hook for $30K or whatever the number was. Lots of social difficulties relating to the other kids. Went back next year. More things went south. Stopped attending classes. Failed out, owing massive sums of money and entirely burnt out on college.

But the important thing is Emory got to feel really good about itself for admitting a poor first-gen Hispanic girl, a talented writer, who, if she'd gone to a cheaper, less competitive school, could've shined.

Something seems fishy about this. Emory launched its no-loan policy for needy kids in 2007.

This person doesn’t sound like a student that would have to take out any loans.

Np. Here's a gift link to the article. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/education/poor-students-struggle-as-class-plays-a-greater-role-in-success.html?unlocked_article_code=1.JE8.W3fQ.ZjPFlN4vpDSp&smid=url-share

Thanks! Gosh, it has been a lot longer than I thought it was, which I hope explains why I had trouble with the details.

It’s from 2012…and unfortunately the girl never completed the necessary paperwork for the significant aid that Emory provided (and they emailed 17 times to an email she never checked).

Hmm there’s a degree to which this is a little hard to sympathize with if I’m honest. I went to Emory (so bias acknowledged), but I know a girl of a very similar background (grew up poor, Hispanic, came from a bad school system), but was able to attend Emory for free due to their need-based loan free grants system. She received a lot of support that allowed her to do very well academically and went on to a successful career in finance in New York before pivoting her career. This story is much more representative of the norm than The NY Times article in my opinion. I think Emory shines as an example of a school that provides a lot of upward mobility for people of diverse socioeconomic backgrounds.

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NESCAC schools with the exception of Williams and Amherst. Also BU, BC, and Northeastern good schools but not worth $90k a year nothing special about them.