Filmaker's accusations against Malia Obama -Inspiration or Plagiarism?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How do you know she “didn’t deserve” her Harvard degree? If you shared classes with her and have the perspective of experience, then please share that. If not, then spare us your shock that the well-educated daughter of well-educated alumni parents somehow “didn’t deserve” her education.

Harvard was still handing out 30% of its admissions to legacy back then.

Not to mention, it was still legal to award admission based on skin color, or “to further diversity/ DEI,” or affirmative action or racial quotas (call it what you want).

Prove she was admitted on merit alone.

I don’t need to prove an argument that I didn’t state. Whoever made the assertion that Malia “didn’t deserve” her degree is the one who needs to “prove” their statement. I’m happy to chime in after that. Also, I didn’t say anything about “merit alone”. I pointed out that Malia has “alumni parents “.

I’ll add though that people who achieve educational accomplishments for themselves, who work to provide excellent educational experiences for their kids, often — but not always — raise kids who benefit from those advantages.
Earth shattering, I know.

It’s another topic for another thread, but funny how just as we got to the point where Black alumni began to have kids who could be admitted as legacies to top tier formerly almost completely white institutions, both race and legacy status became problematic— often to the same people whose scions had been benefiting from both their race and legacy status for generations. But I digress.

[Anonymous]

The bigger question is why are these film makers so reliant on tropes instead of ideating new concepts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

You're still missing the point. The point is Malia is lending her young, Black, female celebrity to the project. Her name. This is also what Aja is bringing also. This is about celebrity branding. The people working the hardest here are the people stitching the shoes together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

A rich druggy layabout deserved a Nike contract, why? What in the hell has she done to warrant a Nike contract?

And Laura Bush deserved to be a morning show host??? At least the commercial isn't horrible (can't say the same about Laura's hosting skills)

Sweetheart, BOTH things can be true: Obama’s daughter is a plagiarist and Bush’s obnoxious drunken daughter didn’t deserve the NBC gig.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

You're still missing the point. The point is Malia is lending her young, Black, female celebrity to the project. Her name. This is also what Aja is bringing also. This is about celebrity branding. The people working the hardest here are the people stitching the shoes together.

Malia is a celebrity? Didn’t this talentless nepo baby recently claim she was using a nom de plume to avoid accusations she was cashing in on dad’s name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

You're still missing the point. The point is Malia is lending her young, Black, female celebrity to the project. Her name. This is also what Aja is bringing also. This is about celebrity branding. The people working the hardest here are the people stitching the shoes together.

Malia is a celebrity? Didn’t this talentless nepo baby recently claim she was using a nom de plume to avoid accusations she was cashing in on dad’s name?

Kylie Jenner is a near billionaire because of makeup. One of the oldest product categories on earth. Her fame was borrowed from her family. She still had to do some work to sell a makeup line...maybe wave her hands over sample palettes or wear the stuff in public. Celebrity is a funny thing...a lot of it doesn't look like "real work".

I don't tell People and other celebrity media outlets who to cover, but their coverage determines celebrity status. We wouldn't be talking about this if Malia wasn't a celebrity . And you don't like Malia Obama, so you're here to bash her. Those are facts. Your thoughts about how she framed some shots in the establishing ad of a campaign are just opinions. Go be awful to young people somewhere else. Or donate to Ms. Indie Filmmaker if you believe in her so much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

You're still missing the point. The point is Malia is lending her young, Black, female celebrity to the project. Her name. This is also what Aja is bringing also. This is about celebrity branding. The people working the hardest here are the people stitching the shoes together.

Malia is a celebrity? Didn’t this talentless nepo baby recently claim she was using a nom de plume to avoid accusations she was cashing in on dad’s name?

Kylie Jenner is a near billionaire because of makeup. One of the oldest product categories on earth. Her fame was borrowed from her family. She still had to do some work to sell a makeup line...maybe wave her hands over sample palettes or wear the stuff in public. Celebrity is a funny thing...a lot of it doesn't look like "real work".

I don't tell People and other celebrity media outlets who to cover, but their coverage determines celebrity status. We wouldn't be talking about this if Malia wasn't a celebrity . And you don't like Malia Obama, so you're here to bash her. Those are facts. Your thoughts about how she framed some shots in the establishing ad of a campaign are just opinions. Go be awful to young people somewhere else. Or donate to Ms. Indie Filmmaker if you believe in her so much.

You're a bot trying to muddy the thread with bullshit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

You're still missing the point. The point is Malia is lending her young, Black, female celebrity to the project. Her name. This is also what Aja is bringing also. This is about celebrity branding. The people working the hardest here are the people stitching the shoes together.

Malia is a celebrity? Didn’t this talentless nepo baby recently claim she was using a nom de plume to avoid accusations she was cashing in on dad’s name?

Kylie Jenner is a near billionaire because of makeup. One of the oldest product categories on earth. Her fame was borrowed from her family. She still had to do some work to sell a makeup line...maybe wave her hands over sample palettes or wear the stuff in public. Celebrity is a funny thing...a lot of it doesn't look like "real work".

I don't tell People and other celebrity media outlets who to cover, but their coverage determines celebrity status. We wouldn't be talking about this if Malia wasn't a celebrity . And you don't like Malia Obama, so you're here to bash her. Those are facts. Your thoughts about how she framed some shots in the establishing ad of a campaign are just opinions. Go be awful to young people somewhere else. Or donate to Ms. Indie Filmmaker if you believe in her so much.

You're a bot trying to muddy the thread with bullshit.

No you are. I'm a 100% real person bored at work. Work that doesn't involve PR.

I feel bad for Presidents' kids. All of them. It's a raw deal to have your privacy permanently destroyed because of your dad's job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why are these film makers so reliant on tropes instead of ideating new concepts?

Because people relate to trope? And perhaps tropes — or the other extremes — might be the best way to capture the attention of people on the receiving end of marketing? I’m not looking for shoes, but kids doing hand clap games or jumping double Dutch or slurping snowballs will capture my attention and provoke a few warm and fuzzy feelings and memories in ways that kids playing with tablets probably won’t. If you only have a minute or two, I’m guessing that emotionally laden shortcuts count?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is incredibly easy to come up with a similar idea to someone else's, in any form of art, because in essence everything has already been thought of. And with the volume of content being created, it's impossible to check one's work against every single existing piece of work.

Hence why there will always be accusations of cheating, especially ones targeted towards famous people, because they will be more vulnerable to negative press.

This is a ridiculous charge, given the innocuous similarities; and the target being a President's daughter makes me think it was intentionally fabricated, instead of being merely a good faith accusation.

This.

I published a nonfiction book (with a major publisher) and used lines from a particular poem about the topic as the epigraph in the front of the book.

After it was published, I was contacted by someone who had self-published on the same subject, and used the same epigraph.

He accused me of plagiarism, and there was no real way for me to prove that I hadn't copied him (even though it's awfully unlikely I could have stumbled across a copy of his book if I'd tried).

This is nothing like what Malia is accused of. Malia was literally at the obscure film's premier screening at Sundance last year. She was in the audience and ripped it off right after. It's not like this was a screening a decade ago and now it's in a commercial. It was literally right after she saw the obscure independent film.

+1 Lots of stans pretzeling themselves to defend the indefensible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why are these film makers so reliant on tropes instead of ideating new concepts?

Because people relate to trope? And perhaps tropes — or the other extremes — might be the best way to capture the attention of people on the receiving end of marketing? I’m not looking for shoes, but kids doing hand clap games or jumping double Dutch or slurping snowballs will capture my attention and provoke a few warm and fuzzy feelings and memories in ways that kids playing with tablets probably won’t. If you only have a minute or two, I’m guessing that emotionally laden shortcuts count?

An aristocrat daughter born into immense wealth and power doesn’t understand poor black American urban tropes. She ripped them off.