Filmaker's accusations against Malia Obama -Inspiration or Plagiarism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So basically, the woman accusing Malia of plagiarizing is admitting that she too plagiarized her work. I grew up playing "Miss Mary Mack, Mack all dressed in black, black, black . . . ." I also saw the same artistic scene in Steven Spielberg's 1985 film production of Toni Morrison's "The Color Purple". So did she plagiarize Spielberg's work or is this something that young girls have played for decades. I am 62, so the hand game has been around long before my arrival on earth. There really are very few things that are new under the sun and all we are getting is regurgitation wrapped up in similar packages. Everybody is a plagiarist, including this young woman. Next.

Patty cake was an old british hand game from centuries ago.

[Anonymous]

Both these videos are generic nothingness that is hard to distinguish from AI generated video.

Malia didn't do anything impressive, and Filmmaker is just trying to get exposure and attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait until AI gets a little further along. It will generate tight shots of hands touching against a blue wall for free. The hands might have seven fingers each, but hey, who's counting?

AI is at last "7 fingers" if you're willing to spend a few hundred dollars on the computer run, which Nike can afford.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, I think it is much more likely that these scenes are rooted in a similar background and culture. If I directed a scene, and someone else from the same cultural background directed a scene, we might pull from the same cultural tropes. Maybe we both set it in a summer kitchen making pierogies with our grandmothers. It pulls from a shared history, which is going to lead to similarities in content.

I don't know anything about the director, but Malia Obama is from the wealthiest, most privileged culture on the planet and did likely did not have one similar life experience growing up to the woman who directed Grace. It is laughable to say they had a shared history. Mahlia's shared history is more similar to the richest white upper echelon kids you know, and the director's share history is likely much more similar to your average middle class kid of any color.

+100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

Yah, "work" " directing" a TV ad for one of the largest companies in USA, just like any up and coming struggling artist with no portfolio and a hundred millionaire, former President father.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait until AI gets a little further along. It will generate tight shots of hands touching against a blue wall for free. The hands might have seven fingers each, but hey, who's counting?

AI is at last "7 fingers" if you're willing to spend a few hundred dollars on the computer run, which Nike can afford.

Well past "7 fingers"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talentless nepo baby gets a job she didn’t earn or deserve, proceeds to steal someone else’s idea. Now her powerful dad’s and Nike’s bots and foot soldiers work overtime to bury a poor Black girl she ripped off.

The far better story from a marketing perspective would be Nike hiring the struggling talented no-name Black girl she ripped off. Not a talentless thief with rich parents.

unbanned?

PP. You apparently have an axe to grind against the Obamas. That does not mean you understand what it takes to sell sneakers by absorbing cool factor from celebrities. Even if you don't like Malia Obama and don't think she deserves it, you should be able to admit that she is a Black female celebrity.

In fact, there are times when luxury brands choose to do that kind of "new faces" marketing. It is quite possible to do market research to determine what is more effective. Usually it's cheapest and easiest to use already famous people. This can be proven by facts usually kept internal to the companies as confidential business information. But people in marketing and advertising understand this very well. It's exactly why the whole celebrity and sponsorship bit works.

If you just want to spew hatred for Malia Obama, we got your message. No need to say more.

In the shoe sales department, I think the celebrity is the basketball star in the ad, not the nepo baby behind the camera. The Malia part is just to get non shoe-people and white people to the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I don't know anything about the director, but Malia Obama is from the wealthiest, most privileged culture on the planet and did likely did not have one similar life experience growing up to the woman who directed Grace. It is laughable to say they had a shared history. Mahlia's shared history is more similar to the richest white upper echelon kids you know, and the director's share history is likely much more similar to your average middle class kid of any color.

You've got it all wrong. Malia channeled her roots... a girl born to an Ivy League lawyer U.S. Senator dad & Ivy League lawyer mom on the gritty South Side Chicago when dreaming this up. She totally didn't rip it off from 2024 Sundance Film Festival she saw it at. lol

[Anonymous]

They both stole from it for Hot Chicks.

[Anonymous]

Now the Obama and Nike bots are smearing the poor black girl who was ripped off as a plagiarizer. You all have no shame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now the Obama and Nike bots are smearing the poor black girl who was ripped off as a plagiarizer. You all have no shame.

What "girl" are you talking about, troll? There are no "girls" in this story except some of the actresses in the videos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

A rich druggy layabout deserved a Nike contract, why? What in the hell has she done to warrant a Nike contract?

And Laura Bush deserved to be a morning show host??? At least the commercial isn't horrible (can't say the same about Laura's hosting skills)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How did Malia not deserve a Nike contract?

Nike is for celebrities. Most of them are mid-career and rich. This is normal even if it's not admirable.

The incoming quarterback at my kid's university has been guaranteed more than $10M in NIL. Universities are supposed to be about learning, not sports!!!! But hardly anybody cares about that. This is the culture we live in.

Malia was chosen because she is aspirational. At least she is trying to work for a living and not based on her looks or influencing.

A rich druggy layabout deserved a Nike contract, why? What in the hell has she done to warrant a Nike contract?

And Laura Bush deserved to be a morning show host??? At least the commercial isn't horrible (can't say the same about Laura's hosting skills)

Jenna

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I assume this goes in entertainment because it's about an Indie film-maker (Natalie Jasmine Harris) accusing Malia of stealing her idea/technique from from film Grace and using them in a Nike ad. I have seen the clip she finds most egregious and there are absolutely major similarities in the scenes and approach to filming and it's not just about using Pat-a-cake. Both scenes are more similar to eachother than to a scene in The Color Purple people are claiming they both were probably inspired by. It really made me wonder though, was Malia just inspired by Harris and if so, is there a way to give Harris credit (like you would in a work cited list?) How do you decide if inspiration crosses into plagiarism?

In what way is Natalie related to Kamala Harris ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Spoiled millionaire nepo baby with a Harvard degree she didn’t deserve, gets a Nike contract she didn’t deserve, then immediately steals from a poor Black female peer. Shameful!

How do you know she “didn’t deserve” her Harvard degree? If you shared classes with her and have the perspective of experience, then please share that. If not, then spare us your shock that the well-educated daughter of well-educated alumni parents somehow “didn’t deserve” her education.