AP Calc BC - B grade - what are the chances for Ivy and MIT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

That’s really a shame for an Asian.

[Anonymous]

What podcast discusses the applicant being rejected by certain Ivies for econ because of lack of other supporting info in the application?

Does anyone have a link to the podcast? If not that podcast some other one that flat out tells you why someone did or did not get admitted wrt test scores, rigor, etc., that is objective criteria?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What podcast discusses the applicant being rejected by certain Ivies for econ because of lack of other supporting info in the application?

Does anyone have a link to the podcast? If not that podcast some other one that flat out tells you why someone did or did not get admitted wrt test scores, rigor, etc., that is objective criteria?

This one:
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/107-what-former-admissions-officers-really-think-of-these-common-applications/

This one may be helpful too: https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/87-college-admissions-unveiled-how-do-colleges-decide-who-gets-accepted/

A lot of webinars and podcasts do "roundtables" where they walk you through applications. A few of them have been mentioned countless times here:
https://www.acceptu.com/resources/webinars/what-admissions-officers-look-for/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-4-what-top-colleges-look-for-how-to-build-it/id1745045021?i=1000657070175
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/105-best-college-admissions-advice-revealed-by-ivy-league-experts/
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/listener-qa-with-former-admissions-officers-answering-your-top-college-application-questions/
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/95-what-does-a-harvard-admissions-officer-look-for-in-applicants-harvard-college-admissions-insights/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stanford-application-review/id1745045021?i=1000674086382

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What podcast discusses the applicant being rejected by certain Ivies for econ because of lack of other supporting info in the application?

Does anyone have a link to the podcast? If not that podcast some other one that flat out tells you why someone did or did not get admitted wrt test scores, rigor, etc., that is objective criteria?

This one:
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/107-what-former-admissions-officers-really-think-of-these-common-applications/

This one may be helpful too: https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/87-college-admissions-unveiled-how-do-colleges-decide-who-gets-accepted/

A lot of webinars and podcasts do "roundtables" where they walk you through applications. A few of them have been mentioned countless times here:
https://www.acceptu.com/resources/webinars/what-admissions-officers-look-for/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-4-what-top-colleges-look-for-how-to-build-it/id1745045021?i=1000657070175
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/105-best-college-admissions-advice-revealed-by-ivy-league-experts/
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/listener-qa-with-former-admissions-officers-answering-your-top-college-application-questions/
https://insidetheadmissionsoffice.podbean.com/e/95-what-does-a-harvard-admissions-officer-look-for-in-applicants-harvard-college-admissions-insights/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stanford-application-review/id1745045021?i=1000674086382

Thank you. Nice to see there are actually really good people out there on this forum and not just trolls and meanies.

[Anonymous]

Test scores, accomplishments, letters, prospective field of study and demonstrated interest in that can help. I went to a crummy public school system in the south and got in with verbal scores in the upper tail for MIT and math in the lower tail. We didn't even have precalculus but I rocked chemistry and physics in high school and did an impressive after class project analyzing a bucket of mud from a phosphate mine and got it right.
That said, I didn't go to TJ which probably hurts OP kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What podcast discusses the applicant being rejected by certain Ivies for econ because of lack of other supporting info in the application?

Does anyone have a link to the podcast? If not that podcast some other one that flat out tells you why someone did or did not get admitted wrt test scores, rigor, etc., that is objective criteria?

There is no objective criterion for top schools. You meet the threshold (minimum for GPA/Test scores/Rigor) and get an academic rating #. Then it moves on to the holistic review.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What podcast discusses the applicant being rejected by certain Ivies for econ because of lack of other supporting info in the application?

Does anyone have a link to the podcast? If not that podcast some other one that flat out tells you why someone did or did not get admitted wrt test scores, rigor, etc., that is objective criteria?

For admissions criteria, you might find this interesting:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1224166.page

[Anonymous]

OP, answer this honestly: is your DC being tutored? If they're being tutored and still getting A-/1570 and B+, there is no business going to MIT. You'd be setting unrealistic expectation for a perfectly bright kid who could excel and flourish in 99% of colleges in the world, just not MIT/Stanford, which reject 1600/A+ kids every year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they get a 5 on the AP exam, the concerns about the B are less, especially since this is a Bio rather than CS or engineering major.

Not true Everyone (EVERYONE) at TJ gets a 5 on the BC AP. Even kids with Cs. That’s how tough the class is and how far it goes beyond the AP curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC had a B second semester and got in ED.

Got in where ED, from which HS and for what major?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If they get a 5 on the AP exam, the concerns about the B are less, especially since this is a Bio rather than CS or engineering major.

Not true Everyone (EVERYONE) at TJ gets a 5 on the BC AP. Even kids with Cs. That’s how tough the class is and how far it goes beyond the AP curriculum.

Source?

[Anonymous]

There is very little objective criteria left as universities don't want to be sued again. OP, you need to have your kid apply widely. There isn't much difference in student quality in the top 30 these days. Employers know this and recruit widely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

The problem is that the student was geared towards a STEM major; he came across as someone trying to backdoor into MIT as a STEM Major. Look at his background:

1. TJ = STEM
2. Math Team = STEM
3. Adv Math = STEM
4. STEM Internship = STEM

Who knows if the kid is trying to backdoor or honestly wants to study Econ? Looks like a backdoor to me. He maybe more capable student in Econ but the backdoor is not good.

What?
Econ at MIT is a STEM major - it's a mathematical science.

In case you just came out from under a rock for the first time today, schools provide much more math and science opportunities, for many more years, than econ opportunities.

What types of courses should someone take then with an interest in Econ besides math (and Econ courses)? Are there certain EC's that will underscore that interest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

The problem is that the student was geared towards a STEM major; he came across as someone trying to backdoor into MIT as a STEM Major. Look at his background:

1. TJ = STEM
2. Math Team = STEM
3. Adv Math = STEM
4. STEM Internship = STEM

Who knows if the kid is trying to backdoor or honestly wants to study Econ? Looks like a backdoor to me. He maybe more capable student in Econ but the backdoor is not good.

What?
Econ at MIT is a STEM major - it's a mathematical science.

In case you just came out from under a rock for the first time today, schools provide much more math and science opportunities, for many more years, than econ opportunities.

What types of courses should someone take then with an interest in Econ besides math (and Econ courses)? Are there certain EC's that will underscore that interest?

Yes, start a new thread.

[Anonymous]

Can he retake?