AP Calc BC - B grade - what are the chances for Ivy and MIT

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It was an ingenius prep podcast. Search for that.

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Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

It’s really hard to get into some of these schools but it’s even harder to stay in them. I had two friends at MIT that did not graduate because they couldn’t manage the classes after their sophomore year. One came back after 10 years and finished it up somehow and another is a dropout. I have several friends that just have a BA from MIT and other Ivy’s. They were too burnt out to pursue a professional degree.

Is your child getting a B in AP calculus because of lack of effort or is a B the best they can get?

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That is outdated. Ivies have very high retention rates now and so do the grindiest schools, MIT and CMU and JHU. A lot has changed from the 90s. These schools are among those that send the most to phd/MD/JD, when undergrad size is considered. I have two students at two different ivies and colleagues with current or ‘24s who graduated Hopkins Stanford and Ivies. They are difficult but the median GPA is 3.7-3.8 now. Retention is 96-99%, even in Engineering. The small uptick in kids who could not hack it(probation data cornell and others released) was due to TO and that is now essentially over.
Agree that OP’s kid is not likely a fit for these—they won’t get in so the point is moot.

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Aim for Cornell or T11-25….

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Anonymous wrote:My white TJ kid had about those stats with a B in BC (which is a fine grade for TJ BC, by the way, that class is awful). Rejected at the two ivies she applied to RD. Not suggesting causation. 4.3 is around top third at TJ. Just letting you know. Waitlisted UVA too.

Came on here to say this—“around” 4.3 which OP said may even mean below 4.3–no chance for T20 from TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Op, why so fixated on MIT or an Ivy? There are hundreds of excellent universities in this country.

This!
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Is there a list of colleges that TJ students are committed to for this class, 2025?

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Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

These admissions are a lottery so no need to worry. One of my kid and his best friend didn't get in with perfect grades, scores and more advanced math courses.

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Say goodbye to top tier schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on HS. And major.

If humanities major, no problem.

Specified TJ and bio major in the OP.

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Good news is that your kid sounds driven with supportive parents so he'll do well in life, no matter which college he attends.

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Major wouldn't matter

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Sure, there is a non-zero chance you will get into a T10 school with a B or two, but there is close to a zero chance you will get into a T10 with a B or two.

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My only B in school was a B+ in Geometry. I had a 800 math score on the SATs and got into MIT. I'm not Asian though.

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Anonymous wrote:Say goodbye to top tier schools.

Not necessarily, I've seen people with lesser resume get in.

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Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

Seriously? That is insane.