AP Calc BC - B grade - what are the chances for Ivy and MIT

[Anonymous]

MIT isn’t happening unless URM first gen or huge spike - like won a national science award. I would retake BC online if that would be considered for the transcript. Or get a 5 on the AP exam and maybe try for Cornell or Dartmouth. What is his EC profile? I would really reframe college expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MIT isn’t happening unless URM first gen or huge spike - like won a national science award. I would retake BC online if that would be considered for the transcript. Or get a 5 on the AP exam and maybe try for Cornell or Dartmouth. What is his EC profile? I would really reframe college expectations.

The weighted gpa from TJ is too low relative to classmates for any ivy

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Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

That admissions officer is an a$$hat. I highly doubt that's the standard they hold TJ students to. They don't have time to review applications like that anyway. It's- grades, SATs, anything impressive

That’s not true at all. If you have gone through the T20 admissions process, you will know that they look at you in comparison to your high school. That is the first cut. After that once you’ve made that cut, then they look at you in detail. You can bet the regional admissions officer knows your high school well knows it down to the hard teachers and the easy teachers. The know whether a B is common in that class or not.

Listen to the Dartmouth and Yale podcasts. And this one.

100%. “Bloom where u are planted”—they want the best of the high school you are in. Ivy/T15 may take from deeper in the class at TJ(top20% usually, as long as rigor high), versus random public it is top2% and good private it is usually top10-15%.

They do not care that TJ top 50% have SATs comparable to the top 2% of the public. They want the best of the best. UVA has said the same thing though they deny specific quotas, the bar is different at different high schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

Hire a college counselor. They’ll evaluate transcript and ECs. Might be able to pivot to another major, add some summer stuff to support it and overall strengthen chances.

Bio is still tough - especially for Asian females. If the goal is medical field, there are many other major options.

Yes. But so much depends on ECs. Without that , the rest of this discussion is pointless.

With the right ECs, this kid would have a lot more options - skip MIT and reframe the goals.

Apply to Cornell for global & public health:
https://www.human.cornell.edu/dns/academics/undergraduate/majors/gphs

Public Health at Brown:
https://www.brown.edu/undergraduate-programs/public-health-ab

Global health at Yale
https://jackson.yale.edu/academics/global-health-studies/

Global health @ Princeton:
https://globalhealth.princeton.edu/about

NO!
These public health and global health majors were INCREDIBLY popular this year. I know a lot of very top kids shut out from top20 schools. You have to get far more obscure than this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

Hire a college counselor. They’ll evaluate transcript and ECs. Might be able to pivot to another major, add some summer stuff to support it and overall strengthen chances.

Bio is still tough - especially for Asian females. If the goal is medical field, there are many other major options.

Yes. But so much depends on ECs. Without that , the rest of this discussion is pointless.

With the right ECs, this kid would have a lot more options - skip MIT and reframe the goals.

Apply to Cornell for global & public health:
https://www.human.cornell.edu/dns/academics/undergraduate/majors/gphs

Public Health at Brown:
https://www.brown.edu/undergraduate-programs/public-health-ab

Global health at Yale
https://jackson.yale.edu/academics/global-health-studies/

Global health @ Princeton:
https://globalhealth.princeton.edu/about

NO!
These public health and global health majors were INCREDIBLY popular this year. I know a lot of very top kids shut out from top20 schools. You have to get far more obscure than this.

What is an obscure biology major?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

This is nonsense. I know the YCBK podcast you are referring to and you are inaccurate in your description. They were harder in the kids but the application was very nondescript overall. There would be a huge pile of profiles which looked just like her and she a
Had nothing to draw focus to her application relative to the others. TJ had nothing to do with it except that she would first be evaluated relative to her HS peers and once again was vanilla.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

This is nonsense. I know the YCBK podcast you are referring to and you are inaccurate in your description. They were harder in the kids but the application was very nondescript overall. There would be a huge pile of profiles which looked just like her and she a
Had nothing to draw focus to her application relative to the others. TJ had nothing to do with it except that she would first be evaluated relative to her HS peers and once again was vanilla.

It wasn't YCBK. It was posted above.
Read before you respond with your nonsense.

[Anonymous]

My kid who went to TJ and was accepted to MIT (chose different school) for CS/engineering got an A- in Calc BC junior year. Got a 5 on the AP exam like pretty much all TJ kids because that class is so hard it prepares you well even if don’t get an A.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MIT? No chance whatsoever
Harvard? Sure why not, if you’re loaded or “started a nonprofit”. Same as any other student

For m, it’s ok if you are a recruit and a B in Calculus won’t kill you.

My kid was told explicitly by MIT that there is no such thing as coach support for admissions.

I doubt that since my kid was an MIT athlete and she had full coach support which meant that her typical chances were 50-65% (per the coach) based on her academic profile. She was admitted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is sad is that the entire class of TJ is brilliant but because everyone is brilliant it makes it harder. I would consider going back to regular school and child will get in everywhere. Also after the NMS nonsense I would not trust how applications are handled. Please tell your child they are great and that you will get them through this. Hate kids being stressed out over things they cannot control.

This. This admissions season someone posted a podcast with transcript where admissions officers reviewed the applications from 3 high schools. One was a TJ student. That student was held to a ridiculous standard by the admissions officers. The student wanted to be an economics major but had not done "original research in economics" (the student had only taken 2 years of math beyond calculus, micro and macro econ and was president of the math team and worked in a STEM internship but the admissions team said it didn't support the major and just wasn't impressive enough). It was insanity. Meanwhile the other students from regular high schools (not in the DMV) had 1/4 of the resume and were reviewed better.

This is nonsense. I know the YCBK podcast you are referring to and you are inaccurate in your description. They were harder in the kids but the application was very nondescript overall. There would be a huge pile of profiles which looked just like her and she a
Had nothing to draw focus to her application relative to the others. TJ had nothing to do with it except that she would first be evaluated relative to her HS peers and once again was vanilla.

It wasn't YCBK. It was posted above.
Read before you respond with your nonsense.

Ok, I got the podcaster wrong……everything else is spot on so sit down, shut up, and let the adults talk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

Hire a college counselor. They’ll evaluate transcript and ECs. Might be able to pivot to another major, add some summer stuff to support it and overall strengthen chances.

Bio is still tough - especially for Asian females. If the goal is medical field, there are many other major options.

Yes. But so much depends on ECs. Without that , the rest of this discussion is pointless.

With the right ECs, this kid would have a lot more options - skip MIT and reframe the goals.

Apply to Cornell for global & public health:
https://www.human.cornell.edu/dns/academics/undergraduate/majors/gphs

Public Health at Brown:
https://www.brown.edu/undergraduate-programs/public-health-ab

Global health at Yale
https://jackson.yale.edu/academics/global-health-studies/

Global health @ Princeton:
https://globalhealth.princeton.edu/about

NO!
These public health and global health majors were INCREDIBLY popular this year. I know a lot of very top kids shut out from top20 schools. You have to get far more obscure than this.

I've seen a lot of success with these majors at Cornell and Brown this year.

[Anonymous]

If your child can't get an A in Calc AB I'd strongly consider AGAINST a school like MIT/Caltech due to the rigor it expects in math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Child in TJ - current Junior and may end with B grade in AP Calc BC. I have heard all grades should be A being Asian to get into Ivy/MIT/Stanford. What are the chances for those schools for a Bio major with a B grade in AP Calc BC and remaining As or A- in Junior year. Overall GPA end of Junior will be close to 4.3; SAT 1570+; Good ECs

Hire a college counselor. They’ll evaluate transcript and ECs. Might be able to pivot to another major, add some summer stuff to support it and overall strengthen chances.

Bio is still tough - especially for Asian females. If the goal is medical field, there are many other major options.

Yes. But so much depends on ECs. Without that , the rest of this discussion is pointless.

With the right ECs, this kid would have a lot more options - skip MIT and reframe the goals.

Apply to Cornell for global & public health:
https://www.human.cornell.edu/dns/academics/undergraduate/majors/gphs

Public Health at Brown:
https://www.brown.edu/undergraduate-programs/public-health-ab

Global health at Yale
https://jackson.yale.edu/academics/global-health-studies/

Global health @ Princeton:
https://globalhealth.princeton.edu/about

NO!
These public health and global health majors were INCREDIBLY popular this year. I know a lot of very top kids shut out from top20 schools. You have to get far more obscure than this.

What is an obscure biology major?

Grasshopper digestibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your child can't get an A in Calc AB I'd strongly consider AGAINST a school like MIT/Caltech due to the rigor it expects in math.

What post are you answering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your child can't get an A in Calc AB I'd strongly consider AGAINST a school like MIT/Caltech due to the rigor it expects in math.

If you can't read and repeat a single sentence correctly then I'd strongly consider against advising college admissions.