About to graduate from the University of Michigan Ross school and still jobless

[Anonymous]

I graduated from Michigan Business School in 2001 when the internet bubble burst and my job offer was deferred for 6 months, then 12 months, and eventually rescinded. I was in debt, devastated, and questioned getting the degree. However, I eventually landed a job and thrived. The Michigan degree and network has been invaluable for me.

Tell your son to keep his head up. Update his LinkedIn profile and network, network, network.

[Anonymous]

OP, I’m a Michigan Ross Alum and a Partner at a consulting firm. Let’s figure a way for me to connect with you or your son. At minimal, I can help him polish resume and discuss job search strategy.

I haven’t read all the posts, what type of function or industry is he pursuing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why the hell did he go to Michigan if he was instate for UVA? That makes no sense. That was a dumb decision on your part.

+1

I do not understand that. Unless you can easily pay for iOS/$90k privates why would you do that? In a tough economy, everyone has trouble finding jobs.
But it's easier knowing you only paid $120k versus $300k+ for college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

Stop with the Bucknell/Colgate trolling. You could have made your point without it. Instead you look like a childish idiot. You so funny.

We’re still doing this?? Which is the “top-tier” fraternity? Which one isn’t? What nonsense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

Stop with the Bucknell/Colgate trolling. You could have made your point without it. Instead you look like a childish idiot. You so funny.

We’re still doing this?? Which is the “top-tier” fraternity? Which one isn’t? What nonsense

What does your post have to do with the post you are responding to?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

PP was replying to this. Who gets to decide which is a “top-tier fraternity”??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

PP was replying to this. Who gets to decide which is a “top-tier fraternity”??

The sorority dimes on campus, for one. If they flock to your house on Saturday nights, your fraternity is probably top tier. The alumni network is another clue. Are the brothers who graduated in the last five years rising MOTUs/BSDs on The Street, or are they "management trainees" at Enterprise?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

The inane Bucknell booster is now touting Colgate. There is no cheese, just stale toothpaste. Give it a rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why the hell did he go to Michigan if he was instate for UVA? That makes no sense. That was a dumb decision on your part.

+1

I do not understand that. Unless you can easily pay for iOS/$90k privates why would you do that? In a tough economy, everyone has trouble finding jobs.
But it's easier knowing you only paid $120k versus $300k+ for college

Michigan has had a pre-admit to Ross since 2017 which guarantees acceptance info the school. McIntire does not, so a student has to apply afterwards without assurances he’ll get accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP, I’m a Michigan Ross Alum and a Partner at a consulting firm. Let’s figure a way for me to connect with you or your son. At minimal, I can help him polish resume and discuss job search strategy.

I haven’t read all the posts, what type of function or industry is he pursuing?

Please let us know if the OP contacts you. I’m still thinking this might be a troll posting.

[Anonymous]

Friends son graduated from there a year ago and is working in DC. They are not even from this side of the country so I hope you don’t think you have to be living in Mich to get a job. That is simply not true.

[Anonymous]

I know 2 people set to graduate Chicago and Emory this year with no jobs. They are actually moving to Israel for work. They didn’t secure internships last summer so this is not a “blame Trump” situation. Not a “blame Michigan” situation either. WS is always feast or famine. And stop saying “The Street,” you DC people are so cringy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

Welcome back. Haven’t seen you here in awhile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP, I’m a Michigan Ross Alum and a Partner at a consulting firm. Let’s figure a way for me to connect with you or your son. At minimal, I can help him polish resume and discuss job search strategy.

I haven’t read all the posts, what type of function or industry is he pursuing?

Please let us know if the OP contacts you. I’m still thinking this might be a troll posting.

OP here. I hate it when people say “troll posting” without having facts.

DS had internships in his sophomore and junior year, and received a full time position upon graduation. However, the offer was rescinded due to the company ran out of VC funding. He received another offer in December but it was cancelled because the whole department got layoffs. He reached out to several of his mentors who were Ross alum for advice and resume read. Two of them were fired because they were on probationary federal employees.

DS has been researching/applying for jobs as a full time job in itself, but he is not having much luck. Two of his friends from Ross are also currently jobless. He is looking for positions all over the country. His cousin graduated from Ross last year, and worked for Intel. He was informed by his manager that he will be layoffs in two weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an unfortunate situation for the OP’s son. It also highlights the advantage of attending a smaller school like Bucknell or Colgate with a strong Greek system and a tight alumni base that isn’t built solely around sports. Your career network has way more tentacles at those schools. The OP mentioned that career services was no help, but what about fraternity connections or reaching out to alums eager to hire him simply because he's a Wolverine? My guess is OP didn’t mention those options because they weren’t available. There’s a reason very few kids in business or finance majors at Bucknell or Colgate graduate jobless, and it isn’t just because of the academic reputation. Attending one of those schools, joining a top-tier fraternity, building a relationship with career services early, and tapping into the alumni network is basically a cheat code for stacking cheese right out of college.

I'm generally ambivalent towards fraternities. But reading these sorts of posts really turns me off. Yuck.

I live in Fairfield County. I can literally picture the folks in Darien and New Canaan executing this exact strategy.

Likewise, and I agree.