Trump on “illegal protests”

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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees




Most of these elite schools have huge endowments. They aren't going to collapse. Some could run on the interest from their endowments indefinitely.


Our most of our kids going to elite schools? No. State universities and two year colleges will suffer greatly. And what AHrvard and Stanford do, smaller colleges and Universities can't. So why even bring up the elite schools? Are they the only ones that matter?
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Didn't he have a recent chat with Putin? Just before meeting with Z. That's probably where he got the idea. In Russia it's agains the law to wear masks during public gatherings.
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Why are they still protesting? They got what they wanted which was for Harris to lose the election.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees


True old school liberals support the collapse of the universities. They have become cross-generational income inequality machines in which young students are enslaved by debt to fund big salaries for baby boomer administrators. The DEI boom has been amazing for the older generations, as hundreds of highly paid DEI administrative positions have been created at EACH big University in the country. We're literally eating our young people. Same with housing policy. Baby boomers want rising home prices, and if their kids can't get houses or start families, too bad.


No, they do not. They want more access to financial aid, less predatory loans, some solution for tuition costs. They absolutely do not want less access to education for fewer people. Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little or a real concern.


Universities "getting wrecked" is probably good for paying students, on balance. Federal funding, debt funding, endless expansion of administrative positions, especially $200K+ DEI deanships, lots of government pressure, lots of political BS, etc.

If they do get wrecked, students will be WAY better off in 10 years as tuition costs get competed down. But even your senior might benefit from some disruption of the current broken system.

If you want your senior to avoid the lugubrious protests of all the laid off administrators, you could arrange for a gap year. But no reason not to go to college. Probably better under Trump than Biden. Less red tape, less covid BS, fewer useless administrators, fewer punishments for "triggering speech" in class, more parties, more light-heartedness, more social drinking, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees




Most of these elite schools have huge endowments. They aren't going to collapse. Some could run on the interest from their endowments indefinitely.


It's not going to affect JUST "elite" schools. Those schools, while a preoccupation of some on DCUM, only educate a fraction of American college students.

Red-state universities push back against NIH funding cuts
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/12/trump-universities-funding-cuts-016328

Red-state universities are hitting back at the Trump administration’s expansive cuts to science and research funding, warning they would be forced to shutter laboratories and lay off staff should they face the sudden elimination of millions of dollars in funding. The blowback, echoed by at least two Republican senators, marks the most widespread political resistance the Trump administration has faced in its rapid sprint to reshape the federal government and its spending policies.

The administration has framed its blanket cap on National Institutes of Health funding for research-related administrative costs as reining in elite coastal institutions like Harvard and Yale, which it argues has vacuumed up too much taxpayer money. Yet in a flurry of lawsuits and dire pleas, universities in ruby red states like Alabama and Kentucky warned that the cuts could be devastating to public institutions that are widely regarded as economic engines in their regions.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees


True old school liberals support the collapse of the universities. They have become cross-generational income inequality machines in which young students are enslaved by debt to fund big salaries for baby boomer administrators. The DEI boom has been amazing for the older generations, as hundreds of highly paid DEI administrative positions have been created at EACH big University in the country. We're literally eating our young people. Same with housing policy. Baby boomers want rising home prices, and if their kids can't get houses or start families, too bad.


No, they do not. They want more access to financial aid, less predatory loans, some solution for tuition costs. They absolutely do not want less access to education for fewer people. Where do you come up with this stuff?


Who said anything about less access to education? What should get wrecked is the predatory loans and the insane % of administrators to teachers. True old school liberals want MORE education for MORE people, MORE affordably.

And we want an end to the should-be-illegal employment requirements for people to have four year degrees from "accredited institutions." That has enabled the predatory loan system and that has enabled baby boomer admins to live off of young students who HAVE to pay a fortune to an expensive college in the "accredited" oligopoly just to qualify for most paying jobs.

We need much more price competition, much more competition by education type (how about a 1 year coding degree, for example), much less government involvement. Let's go.

Compared to most countries, our university system is a financial parasite gobbling up a LOT of economic value that should belong to the students, and DOES stay with students in most countries.

Having to go into debt to "qualify" for a job is sick! It's like one of those company towns where the mine owns the grocery store and the workers are always in debt to their employer.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees


True old school liberals support the collapse of the universities. They have become cross-generational income inequality machines in which young students are enslaved by debt to fund big salaries for baby boomer administrators. The DEI boom has been amazing for the older generations, as hundreds of highly paid DEI administrative positions have been created at EACH big University in the country. We're literally eating our young people. Same with housing policy. Baby boomers want rising home prices, and if their kids can't get houses or start families, too bad.


No, they do not. They want more access to financial aid, less predatory loans, some solution for tuition costs. They absolutely do not want less access to education for fewer people. Where do you come up with this stuff?


Who said anything about less access to education? What should get wrecked is the predatory loans and the insane % of administrators to teachers. True old school liberals want MORE education for MORE people, MORE affordably.

And we want an end to the should-be-illegal employment requirements for people to have four year degrees from "accredited institutions." That has enabled the predatory loan system and that has enabled baby boomer admins to live off of young students who HAVE to pay a fortune to an expensive college in the "accredited" oligopoly just to qualify for most paying jobs.

We need much more price competition, much more competition by education type (how about a 1 year coding degree, for example), much less government involvement. Let's go.

Compared to most countries, our university system is a financial parasite gobbling up a LOT of economic value that should belong to the students, and DOES stay with students in most countries.

Having to go into debt to "qualify" for a job is sick! It's like one of those company towns where the mine owns the grocery store and the workers are always in debt to their employer.


If the only schools that can withstand this onslaught are the elite institutions with huge endowments, that is less access to education. You are not going to fix tuition costs and predatory loans by destroying the system.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little or a real concern.


Universities "getting wrecked" is probably good for paying students, on balance. Federal funding, debt funding, endless expansion of administrative positions, especially $200K+ DEI deanships, lots of government pressure, lots of political BS, etc.

If they do get wrecked, students will be WAY better off in 10 years as tuition costs get competed down. But even your senior might benefit from some disruption of the current broken system.

If you want your senior to avoid the lugubrious protests of all the laid off administrators, you could arrange for a gap year. But no reason not to go to college. Probably better under Trump than Biden. Less red tape, less covid BS, fewer useless administrators, fewer punishments for "triggering speech" in class, more parties, more light-heartedness, more social drinking, etc.


Ignore this monster. Same kind of person who thinks it is good for the economy to burn it all down.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees




Most of these elite schools have huge endowments. They aren't going to collapse. Some could run on the interest from their endowments indefinitely.


Our most of our kids going to elite schools? No. State universities and two year colleges will suffer greatly. And what AHrvard and Stanford do, smaller colleges and Universities can't. So why even bring up the elite schools? Are they the only ones that matter?


Guys, get this through your head, federal funding of colleges and universities is not helping students. The students are getting robbed blind. They are FORCED to go into debt to qualify for almost ANY white collar job. Tuition increases have GALLOPED ahead of inflation for decades. It's even worse than in health care! Obviously whatever the government doing is not creating a healthy education system. If Trump disrupts this system, it will be for the better. This is NOT praise of Trump, it is damnation of our sick university system which crushes the middle class and crushes young students. It almost could not be worse than it is now. It HAS to be shaken up. This might be one of the few areas where Trump's destructive impulses do some good. We need our system to look a LOT LESS USFEDGOV-y and a lot more European.
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little or a real concern.


Universities "getting wrecked" is probably good for paying students, on balance. Federal funding, debt funding, endless expansion of administrative positions, especially $200K+ DEI deanships, lots of government pressure, lots of political BS, etc.

If they do get wrecked, students will be WAY better off in 10 years as tuition costs get competed down. But even your senior might benefit from some disruption of the current broken system.

If you want your senior to avoid the lugubrious protests of all the laid off administrators, you could arrange for a gap year. But no reason not to go to college. Probably better under Trump than Biden. Less red tape, less covid BS, fewer useless administrators, fewer punishments for "triggering speech" in class, more parties, more light-heartedness, more social drinking, etc.


Ignore this monster. Same kind of person who thinks it is good for the economy to burn it all down.


You're wrong. We gotta ask ourselves, given all the demand and all the thousands of universities in the country, why are none of them competing on offering really cheap degrees, comparable to those in European countries. Because the whole thing is a racketeering operation. You're SUPPOSED to burn down racketeering operations (or at least break them up). Blackboards don't cost a lot of money. Books, desks, chairs. Why on earth are college students all emerging with bachelors degrees of dubious value and bank debts over $150,000.00?!?! Something is rotten in Denmark.
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Public school with a large endowment in a purple state vs. private school with a smaller endowment in a red state - Which is a better choice?
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Anonymous wrote:Are these "illegal protests" he is worrying about mostly about Gaza? If so, I hope all the muslims who voted for him see what they got. They got the leopard-eats-your-face. I hope they will stand with people who believe in tradition, democracy, and rule-of-law now, instead of obvious thugs


Of course it’s about Gaza, and probably any anti Trump protests that will probably intensify as the economy collapses. Universities are probably about to get seriously wrecked over the next couple of years.


I'm trying to send my HS senior off to college this fall and I can't tell if these statements are chicken little ories collapsing a a real concern.


If we don't turn around the admin soon, here is what you will see:
-Universities collapsing as fin aid gets pulled
-Universities collapsing as funding gets pulled
-Universities collapsing if the economy tanks (normally, this is good for two year colleges, but see above)
-Universities collapsing because faculty and staff bail out of fear and funding cuts.
-Vital research cut off at the knees


True old school liberals support the collapse of the universities. They have become cross-generational income inequality machines in which young students are enslaved by debt to fund big salaries for baby boomer administrators. The DEI boom has been amazing for the older generations, as hundreds of highly paid DEI administrative positions have been created at EACH big University in the country. We're literally eating our young people. Same with housing policy. Baby boomers want rising home prices, and if their kids can't get houses or start families, too bad.


No, they do not. They want more access to financial aid, less predatory loans, some solution for tuition costs. They absolutely do not want less access to education for fewer people. Where do you come up with this stuff?


Who said anything about less access to education? What should get wrecked is the predatory loans and the insane % of administrators to teachers. True old school liberals want MORE education for MORE people, MORE affordably.

And we want an end to the should-be-illegal employment requirements for people to have four year degrees from "accredited institutions." That has enabled the predatory loan system and that has enabled baby boomer admins to live off of young students who HAVE to pay a fortune to an expensive college in the "accredited" oligopoly just to qualify for most paying jobs.

We need much more price competition, much more competition by education type (how about a 1 year coding degree, for example), much less government involvement. Let's go.

Compared to most countries, our university system is a financial parasite gobbling up a LOT of economic value that should belong to the students, and DOES stay with students in most countries.

Having to go into debt to "qualify" for a job is sick! It's like one of those company towns where the mine owns the grocery store and the workers are always in debt to their employer.


If the only schools that can withstand this onslaught are the elite institutions with huge endowments, that is less access to education. You are not going to fix tuition costs and predatory loans by destroying the system.



The system does not require taxpayer dollars. The system is already EXTRACTING a LOT of value from the middle class, it doesn't need their tax money too. Student aid and student access and teaching professorships have been shown NOT TO INCREASE with federal funding. What does increase with federal funding? Military research, administrative hires, administrative salaries, and red tape. Tuition costs and predatory loans ARE THE SYSTEM.
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Anonymous wrote:Public school with a large endowment in a purple state vs. private school with a smaller endowment in a red state - Which is a better choice?


I’ll take the Ivy for 200, Alex.
Anonymous
Define huge endowments in terms of colleges
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