Would be happy at any: Wash U, Midd, Williams, ND, Georgetown, UChicago, Bowdoin

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

Not true at my kid’s school for either Bowdoin or Midd. Some recruited athletes in top 20-25%, but no unhooked kids (at least no hooks we know of) outside top decile. Give me actual examples, please.

This is from Scoir (DMV private school)

Middlebury: about 30 kids applied over the past 5 years, 6 got accepted, with average GPA of 93 and average SAT of 1400. Not a single kid in the top 2 deciles.

Bowdoin: about 15 kids applied during the same period, 3 got accepted, with average GPA of 96 and average SAT of 1500. One athlete with lower stats, and 2 kids in the top 1/2 decile.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

Not true at my kid’s school for either Bowdoin or Midd. Some recruited athletes in top 20-25%, but no unhooked kids (at least no hooks we know of) outside top decile. Give me actual examples, please.

This is from Scoir (DMV private school)

Middlebury: about 30 kids applied over the past 5 years, 6 got accepted, with average GPA of 93 and average SAT of 1400. Not a single kid in the top 2 deciles.

Bowdoin: about 15 kids applied during the same period, 3 got accepted, with average GPA of 96 and average SAT of 1500. One athlete with lower stats, and 2 kids in the top 1/2 decile.

So Scoir lets you know if an applicant is hooked or unhooked? Were they URMs? Athletes? Legacies? Did they submit SATs? Six out of 30 and 3 out of 15. In actuality, sounds like kids at your private don’t do well with either of these schools, all things considered.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

Not true at my kid’s school for either Bowdoin or Midd. Some recruited athletes in top 20-25%, but no unhooked kids (at least no hooks we know of) outside top decile. Give me actual examples, please.

This is from Scoir (DMV private school)

Middlebury: about 30 kids applied over the past 5 years, 6 got accepted, with average GPA of 93 and average SAT of 1400. Not a single kid in the top 2 deciles.

Bowdoin: about 15 kids applied during the same period, 3 got accepted, with average GPA of 96 and average SAT of 1500. One athlete with lower stats, and 2 kids in the top 1/2 decile.

So Scoir lets you know if an applicant is hooked or unhooked? Were they URMs? Athletes? Legacies? Did they submit SATs? Six out of 30 and 3 out of 15. In actuality, sounds like kids at your private don’t do well with either of these schools, all things considered.

At this school, about 25-30 percent of graduating class goes to HYPMS, JHU, Chicago, Northwestern, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia.

The top kids don’t apply to Middlebury. That was my point.

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Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

Not true at my kid’s school for either Bowdoin or Midd. Some recruited athletes in top 20-25%, but no unhooked kids (at least no hooks we know of) outside top decile. Give me actual examples, please.

This is from Scoir (DMV private school)

Middlebury: about 30 kids applied over the past 5 years, 6 got accepted, with average GPA of 93 and average SAT of 1400. Not a single kid in the top 2 deciles.

Bowdoin: about 15 kids applied during the same period, 3 got accepted, with average GPA of 96 and average SAT of 1500. One athlete with lower stats, and 2 kids in the top 1/2 decile.

So Scoir lets you know if an applicant is hooked or unhooked? Were they URMs? Athletes? Legacies? Did they submit SATs? Six out of 30 and 3 out of 15. In actuality, sounds like kids at your private don’t do well with either of these schools, all things considered.

At this school, about 25-30 percent of graduating class goes to HYPMS, JHU, Chicago, Northwestern, Penn, Cornell, Dartmouth and Columbia.

The top kids don’t apply to Middlebury. That was my point.

So parents are dishing out $50K+/year so 75% of kids can go to [gasp] inferior schools? Not a very good ROI.

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Middlebury has rich and connected A- students.

That's not a bad recipe for lifelong connections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

Let's just take this opportunity to say that Chicago admissions is probably the most "un-free market" of any school out there. Perfect information? No, hide the ED numbers. Manipulate the market through heavy regulation? That's what ED0, ED1, and ED2 is. Not to mention the EA switcheroo and waitlist scams. If UChicago listened to their econ professors, it would be a third-rate school. Delicious irony.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

Let's just take this opportunity to say that Chicago admissions is probably the most "un-free market" of any school out there. Perfect information? No, hide the ED numbers. Manipulate the market through heavy regulation? That's what ED0, ED1, and ED2 is. Not to mention the EA switcheroo and waitlist scams. If UChicago listened to their econ professors, it would be a third-rate school. Delicious irony.

There are no regulations around college early admissions. You’re confusing one college’s lack of transparency with regulations that typically require transparency.

On a somewhat related note, it is ironic that UChicago is in a financial mess even while everyone seems to think it has a great economics department.

Just skip this sh*tshow.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

Let's just take this opportunity to say that Chicago admissions is probably the most "un-free market" of any school out there. Perfect information? No, hide the ED numbers. Manipulate the market through heavy regulation? That's what ED0, ED1, and ED2 is. Not to mention the EA switcheroo and waitlist scams. If UChicago listened to their econ professors, it would be a third-rate school. Delicious irony.

There are no regulations around college early admissions. You’re confusing one college’s lack of transparency with regulations that typically require transparency.

On a somewhat related note, it is ironic that UChicago is in a financial mess even while everyone seems to think it has a great economics department.

Just skip this sh*tshow.

interesting -- and revealing -- that you think regulations are only government promulgated. Expand your mind: Chicago makes the rules.

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Anonymous wrote:Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

Let's just take this opportunity to say that Chicago admissions is probably the most "un-free market" of any school out there. Perfect information? No, hide the ED numbers. Manipulate the market through heavy regulation? That's what ED0, ED1, and ED2 is. Not to mention the EA switcheroo and waitlist scams. If UChicago listened to their econ professors, it would be a third-rate school. Delicious irony.

She’s back!! Fun times. 🥴

In answer to the original question, the economics faculty at Chicago is huge. The idea that they walk in lockstep with the contemptible, willfully ignorant American right wing is ludicrous.

https://economics.uchicago.edu/people/faculty?title=all&name=all

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Anonymous wrote:Is Chicago Econ still a bastion of libertarianism? If so, no thanks. That’s the Elon/SV ethos that wants to destroy our safety net and deregulate everything so that we’ll all be pawns of the rich and corporations. Free markets have failures that need regulation. Caveat emptor is no way to run a civil society.

Let's just take this opportunity to say that Chicago admissions is probably the most "un-free market" of any school out there. Perfect information? No, hide the ED numbers. Manipulate the market through heavy regulation? That's what ED0, ED1, and ED2 is. Not to mention the EA switcheroo and waitlist scams. If UChicago listened to their econ professors, it would be a third-rate school. Delicious irony.

She’s back!! Fun times. 🥴

In answer to the original question, the economics faculty at Chicago is huge. The idea that they walk in lockstep with the contemptible, willfully ignorant American right wing is ludicrous.

https://economics.uchicago.edu/people/faculty?title=all&name=all

As far as econ departments go, Chicago is amongst the most conservative in the country (which is not to say that they lack a few moderates). Ask any Ph.D. applicant or faculty applicant, they will tell you, and you can be done, temporarily, with this particular incarnation of your "willful ignorance."