Would be happy at any: Wash U, Midd, Williams, ND, Georgetown, UChicago, Bowdoin

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Really depends on the private, too, OP. St. Albans, Sidwell, Potomac, and maybe GDS, then these are pretty strong stats. Landon, Maret, Burke, not so much, then you may want to look just a tier down: BC, Bates, Hamilton, Wesleyan.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Because it's tiny. Smaller than many high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

Georgetown doesn't give preference to REA applicants, so that is fine for RD. The only one that's really off the table for RD is Chicago. As others have said, the other ones on the list (WashU, Midd, Williams, Bowdoin) depend more on your school's relationship than ED vs RD.

This is not really true. All not accepted EA are deferred; they then get another bite at the apple in RD. Of course, this is still a way lower admissions percentage than applying ED to Chicago or WashU. As mentioned above, don't bother applying ED to Williams and, to a lesser extent, Bowdoin.

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Anonymous wrote:Unhooked.

Boy, full pay, Econ (but could apply as history if that helps, has a ton of history EC), private, 3.8+, 1520

What would be EA or ED strategy w that list?

Apply as history, ED1 or 2 at chicago and do WashU for the other 1 or 2.

Ask the private school counselor directly for data on gpa that have been admitted to these two from your high school. The GPA may be too low for any T15. It is from our private. Emory or BC ED would be less reachy. Every private gpa range is different. Ask and be clear you want honesty.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

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At our dc private, these would be great stats for middlebury ed

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

+1 Definitely not Bowdoin.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

How do you all seem to know this!?!? Ugh. I have an unhooked humanities boy coming up and would have blithely thought that ED at any school would confer an advantage. Anyone want to tell the rest of us where ED counts? Thanks-

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

How do you all seem to know this!?!? Ugh. I have an unhooked humanities boy coming up and would have blithely thought that ED at any school would confer an advantage. Anyone want to tell the rest of us where ED counts? Thanks-

You need to look at the acceptance history on Naviance. I posted above unhooked DC got into Amherst ED. Naviance showed every year 1-2 students accepted to Amherst and Williams, 0-1 to Swarthmore, and 0-1 to Pomona. I couldn't be sure they were unhooked, but most in DC's cohort are and the acceptances were steady over the 6 year period listed. I saw 13 people in his class were applying to Amherst (the most popular application and his favorite), and thought he should try ED in an effort to stand out among them. As far as we know, no other kids were applying ED. He got in. Tippy top stats, and a demonstrably good fit for an open curriculum, but no other hooks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is everyone just assuming Chicago? No where does op imply they like it better than the other programs

Because UChicago has the best Econ program, and ED there provides an actual advantage (as opposed to ED at Williams and Bowdoin, which is mostly for athletes).

For our (private, DMV) school, Middlebury ED is also reliable, but the students who go there are a notch lower than Chicago, both in terms of GPA and test scores).

Among the LACs mentioned, Williams has the best Econ department. But as mentioned already, ED is a non-starter for most unhooked students.

How do you all seem to know this!?!? Ugh. I have an unhooked humanities boy coming up and would have blithely thought that ED at any school would confer an advantage. Anyone want to tell the rest of us where ED counts? Thanks-

You need to look at the acceptance history on Naviance. I posted above unhooked DC got into Amherst ED. Naviance showed every year 1-2 students accepted to Amherst and Williams, 0-1 to Swarthmore, and 0-1 to Pomona. I couldn't be sure they were unhooked, but most in DC's cohort are and the acceptances were steady over the 6 year period listed. I saw 13 people in his class were applying to Amherst (the most popular application and his favorite), and thought he should try ED in an effort to stand out among them. As far as we know, no other kids were applying ED. He got in. Tippy top stats, and a demonstrably good fit for an open curriculum, but no other hooks.

Agree acceptance history is a crucial data point. The problem with Naviance is you can't be certain about hooks and stats are obviously not the only important point about an application. But it does give you a sense of whether people have gotten in ED, and with what stats.

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A boy is an advantage at some schools but I don’t know which ones

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

Bowdoin and Midd have too many ny applicants. From the DMV these two take 3rd decile kids in ED every year, unhooked. Ivies never go that low.
Its HS dependent and region is a big factor

For DD’s private DMV school, the above is true for Middlebury but not Bowdoin.

Not true at my kid’s school for either Bowdoin or Midd. Some recruited athletes in top 20-25%, but no unhooked kids (at least no hooks we know of) outside top decile. Give me actual examples, please.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

+1. There is an element of chance to all of this, but this profile could definitely be rejected from all of these. Especially a kid from DMV private school. Mine had stats similar to this. Better SAT, better GPA, team captain etc. In at ND EA (from a Catholic HS), rejected at others on this list.

Nephew was rejected at UChicago with 1600 SAT.

Maybe he will get in, maybe he won’t. But he should also have other options in mind.

When we visited WashU the focus seemed heavily weighted toward IT/comp sci but that could have been a function of the guides.

ed1?

I believe it was EA? Not sure honestly. It was not RD, I know it was an early application and response

EA vs ED is a different beast. OP's kid will be accepted to Chicago with ED.

FWIW I think Wash U is a harder admit than Chicago even with ED. Good friend's kid with similar stats was rej WashU ED1 and accepted to Chicago ED2.

Plus Wash U is an extremely safe campus with beautiful dorms.

+100, I would ED1 WashU. It’s a rigorous school and Economics dept will be strong.