Would be happy at any: Wash U, Midd, Williams, ND, Georgetown, UChicago, Bowdoin

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

I think Wash U ED is harder and RD is 100x easier.


+1. There is an element of chance to all of this, but this profile could definitely be rejected from all of these. Especially a kid from DMV private school. Mine had stats similar to this. Better SAT, better GPA, team captain etc. In at ND EA (from a Catholic HS), rejected at others on this list.

Nephew was rejected at UChicago with 1600 SAT.

Maybe he will get in, maybe he won’t. But he should also have other options in mind.

When we visited WashU the focus seemed heavily weighted toward IT/comp sci but that could have been a function of the guides.

ed1?

I believe it was EA? Not sure honestly. It was not RD, I know it was an early application and response

EA vs ED is a different beast. OP's kid will be accepted to Chicago with ED.

FWIW I think Wash U is a harder admit than Chicago even with ED. Good friend's kid with similar stats was rej WashU ED1 and accepted to Chicago ED2.

Plus Wash U is an extremely safe campus with beautiful dorms.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

I think Wash U ED is harder and RD is 100x easier.


+1. There is an element of chance to all of this, but this profile could definitely be rejected from all of these. Especially a kid from DMV private school. Mine had stats similar to this. Better SAT, better GPA, team captain etc. In at ND EA (from a Catholic HS), rejected at others on this list.

Nephew was rejected at UChicago with 1600 SAT.

Maybe he will get in, maybe he won’t. But he should also have other options in mind.

When we visited WashU the focus seemed heavily weighted toward IT/comp sci but that could have been a function of the guides.

ed1?

I believe it was EA? Not sure honestly. It was not RD, I know it was an early application and response

EA vs ED is a different beast. OP's kid will be accepted to Chicago with ED.

FWIW I think Wash U is a harder admit than Chicago even with ED. Good friend's kid with similar stats was rej WashU ED1 and accepted to Chicago ED2.

Plus Wash U is an extremely safe campus with beautiful dorms.

Wash U is so boring. Go for Chicago.

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I think he would have a good shot at washu, Chicago, or Midd ED from our school, but the others would be long shots. Look at your school’s patterns. If ED doesn’t work out he’ll need to add options in RD. Some of these are unattainable in RD.

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Midd ED is hard from our NYC private for some reason.

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Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

Honestly, it depends on who else was already admitted in early decision from your school and who else your kid is competing with from your school. Nothing is ever in a vacuum.

At our school, many of the schools may still be in the running in certain years. But this year, for example WashU probably would not be in the running because they’ve already admitted so many kids in both early rounds.

You have to look at your class to figure out your chances. That’s why you either apply widely if you have no restriction on the number of applications or you apply strategically if you are restricted.

The best answer will come from your school’s data.

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ED1 at Wash U. ED2 at next tier down, tufts/bu/bc. The list is all high reaches unless 3.8 is from sta gds or Sidwell.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

Georgetown doesn't give preference to REA applicants, so that is fine for RD. The only one that's really off the table for RD is Chicago. As others have said, the other ones on the list (WashU, Midd, Williams, Bowdoin) depend more on your school's relationship than ED vs RD.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

On the table for RD: ND and GU. They won't offer any bump with EA. If you didn't get in RD, you wouldn't have gotten in EA.

Off the table for RD: Chicago and Bowdoin.

People here say Williams offers no ED advantage. I'm not sure about that at our school. But think it's on the table for RD, depending on high school.

I dont know Midd very well, but I suspect it's harder in RD than people think.

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Anonymous wrote:No advantage EA at Georgetown. UChicago has the best Econ program hands down. Ed1 at UChicago. The rest, no need for ED2, I would just RD them all and decide on which one based on acceptance.

This may be the worst strategy possible. These are all reaches and OP's stats are mediocre for the colleges they're interested in.

Are you kidding? Mediocre?

I don’t see obvious weakness in his stats.

I didn't say he was weak, just not remarkable, especially for admission to top colleges in the US. Your strategy is gonna get this kid steamrolled.

+1, I'm a bit shocked by how optimistic everyone else is. He has okay stats.

I think Wash U ED is harder and RD is 100x easier.


+1. There is an element of chance to all of this, but this profile could definitely be rejected from all of these. Especially a kid from DMV private school. Mine had stats similar to this. Better SAT, better GPA, team captain etc. In at ND EA (from a Catholic HS), rejected at others on this list.

Nephew was rejected at UChicago with 1600 SAT.

Maybe he will get in, maybe he won’t. But he should also have other options in mind.

When we visited WashU the focus seemed heavily weighted toward IT/comp sci but that could have been a function of the guides.

ed1?

I believe it was EA? Not sure honestly. It was not RD, I know it was an early application and response

EA vs ED is a different beast. OP's kid will be accepted to Chicago with ED.

FWIW I think Wash U is a harder admit than Chicago even with ED. Good friend's kid with similar stats was rej WashU ED1 and accepted to Chicago ED2.

Plus Wash U is an extremely safe campus with beautiful dorms.

Wash U is so boring. Go for Chicago.

If by "exciting" you mean "dodging bullets as you walk to the dorm" (https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/armed-robbers-target-3-university-of-chicago-students-school-says/)

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Anonymous wrote:Unhooked.

Boy, full pay, Econ (but could apply as history if that helps, has a ton of history EC), private, 3.8+, 1520

What would be EA or ED strategy w that list?

Take ND off the list because Notre Dame is not an afterthought type of school; those who want ND would place it first with no close second.

Georgetown is possible because OP is full pay & Georgetown likes full pay whether or not it claims to be need blind.

U Chicago economics is in a different class than the econ depts at the other schools. If OP's son truly wants to study economics, then U Chicago is the easy ED 1 choice.

Applying as a history (humanities) major will help most at Bowdoin College as Bowdoin has trouble getting its students to declare humanities subjects as one's major.

The only two schools on this list worthy of an ED application for an unhooked applicant are U Chicago & WashUStL. These should be OP's son's ED 1 & ED 2 schools.

U Chicago ED 1
WashUStL ED 2

Apply RD to the rest if unsuccessful in either ED round.

There's a poster here who regularly comments that Notre Dame applicants don't apply/ won't go to peer schools. That is not true. As many other posters note, it's quite common for students aiming to T5 to apply EA to both Notre Dame and Georgetown. There are many students who shoot for Stanford but would be v happy at Notre Dame . . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can I flip this question around?

Which of these schools is still on the table for this kid in RD?

(my kid is similar and has a lot of these school on his list)

From our school I think the answer is none.

I would like to be wrong for my own kid’s sake. But, for example, Bowdoin takes sports (squash) recruits from our school and area and odds seem to be nil for others. Chicago seems tO accept in ED only. Williams seems ED only too.

Bowdoin is a very hard admit from our T10 private (in nyc). Penn is easier. Dartmouth is easier.

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not sure if this is of interest, but my kid with a list similar to your kids got into Columbia ED and loves it so much.