USAID to be eliminated??

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Anonymous wrote:Hero USAID Director standing up against the unjustified removal of 60 career officials at USAID and getting removed himself by DOGE hours later...what a sad state of affairs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/usaid-labor-director-pushed-fighting-back-removal-career-leadership-rcna190132

An order sidelining almost 60 senior career leaders at the U.S. Agency for International Development was temporarily rescinded Thursday by one of the few remaining senior career civil servants with the authority to do so, two current and two former USAID employees told NBC News.

Hours later, the same career employee was also placed on administrative leave.

“The materials show no evidence that you engaged in misconduct,” Nick Gottlieb, USAID's director of employee and labor relations, said in an email to the dozens of senior USAID employees placed on paid leave Monday. “As a result, I no longer have authority to maintain you in this status.”

Gottlieb acknowledged that he did not know how long his decision would hold.

“You may receive another email within the day reinstating your leave status. However, that notice will not come from me,” he wrote, adding, “I wish you all the best — you do not deserve this.”


No they do not deserve this. Nor do the people who were unjustifiably fired at DOJ and the FBI.


First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller


This. All federal employees (and citizens!) who care about the rule of law should be resisting the attack on USAID.


Is there anything else we can do besides write to our representatives and vote?


Give to non-profits that do similar work. There's a lot of good ones out there.


Many relied on Fed grants and were shuttered this week.


How can you rely on AID????


The non-profits that do similar work rely on Fed grants and Trump froze all funding last week. The freeze was stoped by the courts, but the damage was done and many non-profits could not withstand the uncertainty, fired staff and shut down.
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


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We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.

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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.


Which part of the law says that? Link it.
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You can't quote on here without attribution. Care to add one or be reported?
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.



I wonder if this will apply to the future "partnerships" with faith-based orgs that Project 2025 refers to.
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.


Which part of the law says that? Link it.


It two part:

FFA outlines responsibilities, giving the president leeway in administering foreign aid. Linked from wiki entry -
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-75/pdf/STATUTE-75-Pg424-2.pdf

And the General Reorganization Act of 1977 gives President power to consolidate and reorganize agencies that fall under the executive branch - https://www.congress.gov/95/statute/STATUTE-91/STATUTE-91-Pg29.pdf





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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.



I wonder if this will apply to the future "partnerships" with faith-based orgs that Project 2025 refers to.


I hope so
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.



Sounds like someone who has never worked in NGOs, much less international NGOs. Most NGOs have to do some sort of fee-for-service and/or apply for grants and contracts from funders.

NGOs are often not "charities." They don't and can't survive with occasional donations from the public at large.
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.


Which part of the law says that? Link it.


It two part:

FFA outlines responsibilities, giving the president leeway in administering foreign aid. Linked from wiki entry -
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-75/pdf/STATUTE-75-Pg424-2.pdf

And the General Reorganization Act of 1977 gives President power to consolidate and reorganize agencies that fall under the executive branch - https://www.congress.gov/95/statute/STATUTE-91/STATUTE-91-Pg29.pdf






Link to the specific provision in the current US Code, not a pdf of the entire engrossed bill from the 1960s.

PS. pp already gave you your answer. Go read 22 USC 6563
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.



Sounds like someone who has never worked in NGOs, much less international NGOs. Most NGOs have to do some sort of fee-for-service and/or apply for grants and contracts from funders.

NGOs are often not "charities." They don't and can't survive with occasional donations from the public at large.



Not true. I worked for a very large international education NGO ($30 million) that operates in multiple countries. We receive USAID but it is a small portion of our overall income.
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.


Which part of the law says that? Link it.


It two part:

FFA outlines responsibilities, giving the president leeway in administering foreign aid. Linked from wiki entry -
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-75/pdf/STATUTE-75-Pg424-2.pdf

And the General Reorganization Act of 1977 gives President power to consolidate and reorganize agencies that fall under the executive branch - https://www.congress.gov/95/statute/STATUTE-91/STATUTE-91-Pg29.pdf






Link to the specific provision in the current US Code, not a pdf of the entire engrossed bill from the 1960s.

PS. pp already gave you your answer. Go read 22 USC 6563



Best to go to the source rather than wiki entries. It’s a quick read.
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.


Which part of the law says that? Link it.


It two part:

FFA outlines responsibilities, giving the president leeway in administering foreign aid. Linked from wiki entry -
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-75/pdf/STATUTE-75-Pg424-2.pdf

And the General Reorganization Act of 1977 gives President power to consolidate and reorganize agencies that fall under the executive branch - https://www.congress.gov/95/statute/STATUTE-91/STATUTE-91-Pg29.pdf






Link to the specific provision in the current US Code, not a pdf of the entire engrossed bill from the 1960s.

PS. pp already gave you your answer. Go read 22 USC 6563



Best to go to the source rather than wiki entries. It’s a quick read.

Link to the US Code. A pdf of an engrossed bill is not current law. Laws are amended. Show me where in the current law it says what you claim. It should be easy for you to locate.

ps: the authorities under the General Reorganization Act expired in 1981. So you’re wrong on that too.
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Anonymous wrote:“3 re-orgs in 5 years. An order back to the office without actual seats for everyone. Constant elevation and then demotion of new, shiny topics. A cadre of young, insular, self-admiring and inexperienced politicals who are there to claim the mantle of others' ideas and kiss the ring for flashy leaders. A movement away from the core development mission and towards hot policy issues. A leader who is obsessed with herself and a team who promotes her every move (look! soccer with poor brown kids!). Meanwhile, a dysfunctional bureaucracy focused on process, sludge, and insider connections that keeps the Agency understaffed and the humans who work there demoralized and over worked.“


You can't quote on here without attribution. Care to add one or be reported?


Surprising that you don’t seem to remember this gem that kicked off the “USAID is a sh**show” thread. There is your attribution
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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


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We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.




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Anonymous wrote:No sympathy here. USAID was a major grift joke and most of the aid money ended up in pockets of local corrupt leaders and tribal chiefs. Add to that a very ideological bureaucracy.

I think foreign aid is important but it's worthwhile disbanding and rebuilding a donor agency from scratch. Not sure if the existing model can survive.


Not you again. Don't you have a dog to kick or kid to yell at?


I’m not the PP but our acquaintance lost their job as a contractor from the EO.

They bragged for years about their travel all over the world to “educate” the locals on support distribution. But they openly joked by the time they “trained” someone in country and aid arrived (if ever) whomever they “trained” was long gone - so they got to go back 2-3 times to train (or not) to the same country and typically they planned stops on their way of places to visit.

I am not saying there was not some good being done; but maybe 1 out 20 dollars spent was of value from what I heard.


Then Congress should shut it down. This is about more than just the agency, it's about the U.S. straying from being a country of laws and separation of powers and moving to banana republic status.


+1

We have a constitution, laws, and checks and balances. DT is operating as if none of those matter. Get rid of waste, but within the bounds of the law of our country.


All of this. Reasonable minds have always disagreed about the role of government, but NEVER until now has there been any question about following the rule of law.


Any agency was opened by EO and can be dissolved by EO. My former ngo was funded by unsaid….it paid for lots of junkets for senior people.

The functions of the agency are required by law. He can change the agency’s name but can’t choose not to carry out the law.



Please state the law being broken. And for all the people posting their NGO is shuttering because of this. Seems odd that your NGOs can’t survive because USAID ceases funding. Something is amiss.

Here you go, bby https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

Oh, and it’s odd to you that NGOs funded by a major funding source can’t operate without said funding? Do they not teach math in MAGA country?


Thanks for the link. The law states he can’t shutter it but he can realign and restructure it, which seems to be what he is doing.

Many NGOs do not manage their revenue well. If an NGO can’t operate without USAID funding then the leadership of that NGO should be let go. Truly impactful NGOs will find other revenue sources and survive.




You have no idea how this works


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